JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

What is astonishing is your silence in response to # 2506 (on proof that Oswald had insufficient time to get to the scene of Tippit's shooting), # 2507 (on proof that the autopsy 'photo' of the back of Kennedy's head was faked), # 2494 (Clint Hill's testimony), and # 2495 (Roberts' and Benavides' testimony).

You ignoring my responses doesn't mean they didn't happen.

[FISHY1118]

I thought the asterix below the avatar = serving a two match ban sort of thing?

Ahhhh i see ,thanks for the info wulf.

[Aethelwulf]

Wheres Herlock is he on leave ?

I thought the asterix below the avatar = serving a two match ban sort of thing?

[DJA]

He logged in earlier today.

[FISHY1118]

Wheres Herlock is he on leave ?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

That's a drawing of the location of the head wound, not a photo of the upper back/neck wound.

Here's the drawing of the upper back/neck wound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_autopsy#/media/File:JFK_posterior_back_wound.jpg

There is no sign in that drawing of Kennedy's neck.

[Fiver]

'Feel free' to point out the bullet hole along the neckline in the aiutopsy 'photo' above.

That's a drawing of the location of the head wound, not a photo of the upper back/neck wound.

Here's the drawing of the upper back/neck wound.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_autopsy#/media/File:JFK_posterior_back_wound.jpg

[cobalt]

Oswald had no legal representation during his brief interment. Yet despite being interrogated for around 16 hours only the most fragmentary evidence exists, and that was courtesy of FBI, CIA and DPD notes, none of which would be considered remotely reliable in a court of law. The claim that Oswald has no alibi is without foundation. It is false. He may have had an exceedingly good one.

Oswald claimed (as best we know) he had lunch in the Domino Room, went up to buy a coke and was out front with Bill Shelley.

Here are the questions which the authorities MUST have put to LHO.
1. Account for your movements between 12.00 and leaving the TSBD.
2/ Explain why you asked a taxi to drive past your place of residence.
3. How did you navigate from your rooming house to the cinema?
4. Why did you decide to take a revolver with you to visit a local cinema?

Astonishingly, questions 2 and 3 never seem to have been asked.
Question 1 iWC conclusion is undermined by WC testimony, principally that of Bonnie Ray Williams.

[GBinOz]

Hi George,

One minor point and one bagger point.

Firstly, the re-enactment was done in May of 1964. And secondly, "position A" isn't (more or less) the position at which the president and Connally were supposed to have been hit by the same bullet. The sign you see in the photo you posted is the sign before the Stemmons Frreway sign and, so, at a point closer under the 6th floor window where the angle of the rifle would indeed be much larger than 20 or so degrees.

Cheers,
Frank

Hi Frank,

You got me. I was watching Robert Frazier, at 94 years of age, narrate the happenings on the days after the funeral. I didn't notice the jump at the splice.

My second mistake, as you pointed out, was mistaking the Thornton sign for the Stemmons sign. Looking at the distance shown in the table it would appear that the first photo was at about Z130, just before the presidential limo appeared on the ZF. The limo was obscured from the sniper's nest by the tree from 166-210. I wonder why, with that view, the 6th floor gunman didn't take the shot at around 130?

While I was looking at the signs I noticed a peculiarity with the Altgens Photo #6:

This photo is generally attributed to Z255. Altgens used a 105mm telephoto, so there is a degree of image compression, but the Limo appears to be approximately at the tangent of the tight radius curve between Elm and Houston, which would place it in the vicinity of Z130. Also, the motorcycle cop (Chaney?) is about level with the president rather than with the follow vehicle.

Cheers, George

[FrankO]

Here are a couple of photos from the re-enactment done by Robert Frazier a few days after the assassination. It was done by co-ordinating all the available movie films taken during the assassination, and taking photos through the telescopic sight on the actual Carcano rifle set up on the TSBD 6th floor. It was NOT a computer animation.





The first is labelled as being when the car is hidden behind the Freeway sign in the Zapruder film, supposedly about when Kennedy and Connolly are hit according to the Single Bullet Theory. Note the 40 degree angle, the controversial angle for Kennedy's back wound proposed by Humes. Also note the positions and alignment of Kennedy and Connolly, and then try to justify the Single Bullet Theory. If the re-enactment is to be accorded any credibility, this appears to be about when Kennedy's back wound occurred, but clearly the shot could not have exited the President's throat, and could not have also hit Connolly above his right armpit

The second is labelled as Frame 249, long after the SBT is claimed to have hit both men. The alignment still doesn't work.

Hi George,

One minor point and one bagger point.

Firstly, the re-enactment was done in May of 1964. And secondly, "position A" isn't (more or less) the position at which the president and Connally were supposed to have been hit by the same bullet. The sign you see in the photo you posted is the sign before the Stemmons Frreway sign and, so, at a point closer under the 6th floor window where the angle of the rifle would indeed be much larger than 20 or so degrees.

Cheers,
Frank

[GBinOz]

Here are a couple of photos from the re-enactment done by Robert Frazier a few days after the assassination. It was done by co-ordinating all the available movie films taken during the assassination, and taking photos through the telescopic sight on the actual Carcano rifle set up on the TSBD 6th floor. It was NOT a computer animation.





The first is labelled as being when the car is hidden behind the Freeway sign in the Zapruder film, supposedly about when Kennedy and Connolly are hit according to the Single Bullet Theory. Note the 40 degree angle, the controversial angle for Kennedy's back wound proposed by Humes. Also note the positions and alignment of Kennedy and Connolly, and then try to justify the Single Bullet Theory. If the re-enactment is to be accorded any credibility, this appears to be about when Kennedy's back wound occurred, but clearly the shot could not have exited the President's throat, and could not have also hit Connolly above his right armpit

The second is labelled as Frame 249, long after the SBT is claimed to have hit both men. The alignment still doesn't work.

[GBinOz]

At which point I stopped watching. If the video is willing to falsify the police lineup, why should I trust anything that they say?

AFAIK this was the first lineup, and when Oswald complained, for obvious reasons, they made the adjustments to which you refer.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

There's some interesting photos in that video.

1:07 - Oswald being brought out of the theater. His hair looks slightly curly in comparison to the police office with the cigar.

1:18 - I could see someone describing Oswald's hair as bushy.

1:26 - Oswald mug shot. Again, I can see how Some might describe Oswald's hair as bushy.

1:52 - It's clear that when Oswald's hair isn't combed, it can look curly.

2:12 - Again, I can see someone describing Oswald's hair as slightly curly in this picture.

You are, I believe, the first person ever to have described Oswald's hair as curly or bushy, let alone both, and I would imagine that you will also be the last.

[Fiver]

This in an interesting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITTPHcsG-N8&ab_channel=Curiousitive%21

It contains news video from the time concerning the Oswald wallet found at the scene of Tippit's murder - or was it?

Cheers, George

There's some interesting photos in that video.

1:07 - Oswald being brought out of the theater. His hair looks slightly curly in comparison to the police office with the cigar.

1:18 - I could see someone describing Oswald's hair as bushy.

1:26 - Oswald mug shot. Again, I can see how Some might describe Oswald's hair as bushy.

1:52 - It's clear that when Oswald's hair isn't combed, it can look curly.

2:12 - Again, I can see someone describing Oswald's hair as slightly curly in this picture.

5:55 - "Police Lineup" - This is not the actual police lineup. It is the picture of Oswald from 1:18 photoedited together with Commission Exhibit 1064, which shows the other three men in the first lineup. In the actual lineup, the four men were handcuffed together and none of them were dressed they way they were in the "Police lineup" shown in the video. Oswald was still wearing his brown short. William Perry took off his coat and tie, unbuttoned his short, and put on a brown sports coat. Richard Clark also took off his coat and time, unbuttoned his coat, and put on a red vest. Don Ables was wearing white shirt and a gray button-up sweater. (CE 745)

At which point I stopped watching. If the video is willing to falsify the police lineup, why should I trust anything that they say?

[GBinOz]

... because the colours of the fibres found in the bag and the blanket did not match those of Oswald's shirt?

He appears to be saying that the fibres found in the bag don't match those from the shirt or the blanket.