JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[cobalt]

but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice

Emotive language consistent with the fanatic who sees his world disintegrating around him.

There is no convincing evidence that LHO killed once, never mind twice. So he is not a double murderer in legal terms. Anything else is malicious conjecture.

In addition, LHO did not choose to avoid justice: that decision was made on his behalf by person sympathetic to HS'
argument. Search the files and see if HS has ever called Jack Ruby the same names he calls LHO. He hates Oswald with a vengeance; but he does nor hate Jack Ruby. Jack was his man. HS is proud, it seems to me, that Ruby denied Oswald the right to justice.

I am happy to stand corrected.

[Patrick Differ]

The bullet hole in the back of JFK's clothing shows what is called "bullet wipe", which means it was an entrance wound. The bullet hole in the back of Connally's clothing show that the bullet was tumbling before it struck him, meaning it had already passed through another object.

The clothing supports the single bullet theory.

Not true. The bullet hole in Connallys jacket shows an entrance wound from a seperate shooter. Plus it matches what Connally said HE experienced from his hospital bed. Live interview. . Plus the bullet in Kennedys shirt does not align with the jacket or timing of the shots.

People can believe what they want but I think Connally, the victim, would actually know. Unlike Specter who had to make his bullet theory work. Its unfortunate Humes never traced the bullet wounds in Kennedys throat or back.

[Fiver]

There are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.

The bullet hole in the back of JFK's clothing shows what is called "bullet wipe", which means it was an entrance wound. The bullet hole in the back of Connally's clothing show that the bullet was tumbling before it struck him, meaning it had already passed through another object.

The clothing supports the single bullet theory.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The autopsy and the Warren Commission didn’t. The investigation was completed September of 1964 but sadly the double-murdering, traitor scum Lee Harvey Oswald avoided justice and has now become a posthumous hero for some who are on some kind of warped mission.

[Patrick Differ]

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD .

The single bullet theory is just malarkey.

There are 2 things People shoukd look at. The bullet holes in JFKs shirt and the bullet hole in Conallys Jacket.

The second is Connallys interview lying in bed at Parkland after being shot . He expained what happened and never deviated. He said it happened in seconds so keep that in mind. He said he heard the first shot, thought it was a firecracker and turned on his elbow to see Kennedy hit " and then" he was hit. Said he fell back and heard the shot that hit Kennedy in the head and lost consciousness upon seeing the secret service agent on top of the Kennedys.

So there was no tumbling bullet out of Kennedy but then Humes never traced the throat wound. After what Connally said matches the Zapruder film. Who would know better than him?

People believe what they want but evidence actually shows more than one shooter.

[Fiver]

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD

The majority of witnesses heard 2 or 3 shots.

The majority of witnesses believed the shots came from the Book Depository.

[FISHY1118]

Herlock we appreciate your passion. The single bullet however was debunked in 1963 by Connallys attending personal physician who was an expert in gunshot wounds. The proof was in the bullet hole location of Kennedys shirt and Connallys jacket bullet hole and entrance wound. There was no Yaw or tumbling in the bullet that hit Connally. It was proven to be a seperate bullet. The bullet that hit Connally also tunneled as it exited his check. Unlike the supposed single bullet theory which was never proven because Humes ( in the interest of haste?) decided not to trace the Kennedy entrance wounds. Believe whatever you want but the actual evidence gives another story.

From people who were there on the day v the warren commission months later.

I know which side I'm on PD .

The single bullet theory is just malarkey.

[Lewis C]

Most people don't want to talk about the same thing all the time; variety keeps things interesting.

cough, cough...JFK thread..cough, cough...Lechmere thread...cough, cough, the Diary thread.

c.d.

Well that at least is three things. Then there has also recently been discussion of William Bury, the Stride murder, the Eddowes murder, and other things. There are a few posters who seem primarily interested in one thing, but I think that most do not.

[Lewis C]

Thank you Lewis for your reply. Please accept my apology because after reviewing that section of the thread I see now I clearly took you out of context. You were actually replying to another poster who said the lone gunman theory is central to this website.

Again, thank you,

Paddy

It's quite alright, Paddy.

[Paddy Goose]

Hi Paddy,

My only point was to correct a statement about the central focus of this web site. I wasn't saying that it's wrong for this site to have a JFK thread, or even more than one such thread. ...

Thank you Lewis for your reply. Please accept my apology because after reviewing that section of the thread I see now I clearly took you out of context. You were actually replying to another poster who said the lone gunman theory is central to this website.

Again, thank you,

Paddy

[FrankO]

As to the weapon, I'd favor something common and semi-auto, like the M1 Garand, which would be faster firing than a bolt-action.

That's what I've been thinking, too, Fiver. After all, the Carcano is at the root of thinking there was a conspiracy. Had it been a faster firing rifle, they would at least have avoided something that would have been easy to avoid.

[Fiver]

Am I the Napoleon of assassination planning or am I just a normal person applying common sense and logic? How could it be believed that people with such resources at their disposal, people who had experience of political assassination, invasion, combat in all its forms, spy craft and coup d’etat came up with such a convoluted, difficult to maintain, cumbersome, cast of hundreds, reliant on luck, childishly inept plan ever (and please don’t say “it worked” because it didn’t or we wouldn’t still be talking about conspiracies) when it would have been child’s play to come up with a better, more efficient and massively safer (for the conspirators) one.

One point you don't cover is location. Dealey Plaza is a bad location - the target is moving and there are obstacles obscuring at least some of line of sight.

As opposed to outside the Texas Hotel in Ft Worth.

* Clear line of sight from all directions.
* Target is standing still on a raised platform for several minutes.
* Target is surrounded by a crowd, which will both distract security and delay any attempt at pursuit.

As to the weapon, I'd favor something common and semi-auto, like the M1 Garand, which would be faster firing than a bolt-action.

[c.d.]

Most people don't want to talk about the same thing all the time; variety keeps things interesting.

cough, cough...JFK thread..cough, cough...Lechmere thread...cough, cough, the Diary thread.

c.d.

[Lewis C]

Good afternoon Lewis,



I sense your frustration, but the thread is correctly placed under the category "Other Mysteries." Also, the thread inevitably touches on politics, which is a prohibited subject here. But how can it not?

Having said that, I would like to share three books I have read which increased my knowledge and shaped my opinion by exploring the human element.

Oswald's Tale: An American Mystery by Norman Mailer, 1995

Marina and Lee: The Tormented Love and Fatal Obsession Behind Lee Harvey Oswald's Assassination of John F. Kennedy by Priscilla Johnson McMillan, 1977

American Confidential, Uncovering the Bizarre Story of Lee Harvey Oswald and His Mother by Deanne Stillman, 2023

Hi Paddy,

My only point was to correct a statement about the central focus of this web site. I wasn't saying that it's wrong for this site to have a JFK thread, or even more than one such thread. Many forums have sections for discussions about things that aren't the site's central focus, and I have no problem with that. Most people don't want to talk about the same thing all the time; variety keeps things interesting.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Exactly. The Conspiracy requires nigh-infinite resources combined with nigh-infinite stupidity. They repeatedly choose to take greater risks, expand the number of people in on the plot, and reduce their chances of success.

And yet it’s a point that’s simply ignored or brushed under the conspiracy carpet Fiver. Every one of us can come up with a vastly more reliable, vastly easier to carry off, far less complex, massively less likely to be discovered, and far less reliant on sheer luck plan yet we are expected to believe that these people who had influence over the military, the CIA, the FBI, the Secret Service, the police, the medical profession, politicians and members of the public sat around and thought “how can we create ourself a plan that’s insanely complex to carry out, involves hundreds of people that we are relying on not to talk, leaves us reliant on luck and it has to be a plan that we have a reasonable chance of being exposed and vilified for being part of a plot to murder JFK?”

Why would anyone believe this?