JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[FISHY1118]

Your opening sentence should be asked in a room with a mirror.

Because he wanted to contain any wild, unfounded rumours, of Soviet involvement for very obvious reason Fishy. This wasn’t a game that was going on here. Johnson was the President. Do you really think that a man known as one of the wiliest political operators in American history is going to spill the beans on some kind of conspiracy over a phone line that was recorded? Come on.

Perfect cover wasn't it? .But we know the real reason for that statement,. Cmon work it out.

[FISHY1118]

Feel free to provide any source that supports your claim that LBJ ever said this.



Framing a man who defected to the USSR is a terrible idea if you don't want the evidence pointing towards the Soviets.



Feel free to provide any source that supports your claim that LBJ ever said this.

Any competent Conspiracy wanting nothing to be linked to the Soviets would frame a John Bircher or some such, not a Marxist who had previously defected to the USSR and recently visited both Cuban and Soviet embassies.

Who's running this Conspiracy - Moe, Larry, and Curly?

Why ?? When I do you only claim it was a lie , you go look it up yourself.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I'm just quoting the evidence as always , herlock ,

And ignoring evidence to the contrary.

The warren commission was a lie . Can't be much clearer than that , and I will continue to show more evidence of that . You can do and say what you what you like .

Your opinion that the Warren Commission was a lie is simply that Fishy. Your opinion.

[FISHY1118]

Ok. You’ve cut and paste the opinion of a man that you like the sound of.

I’ve just read through this piece 3 times and this guy is the perfect example of a conspiracy theorist. PLEASE I’m begging everyone on here to read what this clown is saying. It’s a veritable Conspiracy Theory handbook. For any fans of Viz magazine this guy really is Grassy Knollington.

https://thomassheridan.substack.com/p/grassy-knollington-too-funny-to-be

And THIS is the kind of person Fishy takes seriously and yet apparently he sees nothing wrong in anything that this guy posts. I’ve emboldened some of the worst but I could have done more. The guy should be applauded for fitting so much crap into one piece. Jim Garrison would have had him on the pay roll in a heartbeat.

Just showing evidence that the warren commission was a lie herlock , there is too much evidence that you in 10 lifetime couldn't ignore .

But wait .... I think I know your next post , they all lied , were mistaken, complete idiots, never existed.

Funny how your whole argument fits into these 4 categories.


Medical experts, Police officers, . Governors, people who were in Dallas on that day whos cameras were taken , who were never interviewed, who claimed the limo came to a complete stop .etc etc etc

Yer but lets pay no attention to them there all Conspiracy nut jobs right? . For God sake gimmi a break.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Perfect cover wasn't it? .But we know the real reason for that statement,. Cmon work it out.

Again, your opinion. We can all make erroneous deductions by claiming to read between the lines. Thats the problem with reading between the lines.

[FISHY1118]

Your opinion that the Warren Commission was a lie is simply that Fishy. Your opinion.

So everyone that contradicts it in your opinion are liars ? In your opinion?

[FISHY1118]

Again, your opinion. We can all make erroneous deductions by claiming to read between the lines. Thats the problem with reading between the lines.

I make deductions on the evidence .

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just showing evidence that the warren commission was a lie herlock , there is too much evidence that you in 10 lifetime couldn't ignore .

But wait .... I think I know your next post , they all lied , were mistaken, complete idiots, never existed.

Funny how your whole argument fits into these 4 categories.


Medical experts, Police officers, . Governors, people who were in Dallas on that day whos cameras were taken , who were never interviewed, who claimed the limo came to a complete stop .etc etc etc

Yer but lets pay no attention to them there all Conspiracy nut jobs right? . For God sake gimmi a break.

Do you not see the irony Fishy? You must do.

You criticise me for claiming that people lie and make mistakes whilst all the while claiming that people lied, faked evidence etc. I assume that it’s a case that only those on the conspiracy side have the ability to make judgments? I’ve already posted a very small section of the conspiracy theories that have been given credence by theorists which doesn’t exactly speak well of their judgment.

[Herlock Sholmes]

So everyone that contradicts it in your opinion are liars ? In your opinion?

Why do you have difficulty in differentiation the concept of error and lie? I’ve never said that everyone that supports a conspiracy is a liar.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I make deductions on the evidence .

And are you the only person capable of doing that Fishy? Vincent Bugliosi made a career from making judgments based on the evidence. He spent 20 years researching to produce the most detailed analysis of crime in the history of true crime. You dismiss that without reading it.

And before you accuse him of automatically being on the side of the government and its institutions consider that he also wrote a book called The Betrayal of America: How The Supreme Court Undermined The Constitution And Chose Our President - about the 2000 Presidential election. So he’s hardly a mouthpiece.

But if you prefer Garrison, Lane, Groden etc that’s up to you of course.

[scottnapa]

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Oswald was arrested at 1.50. They had the rifle and they had the fact that he’d killed Tippit and zero evidence of anyone else’s involvement so they made a natural assumption that he was acting alone. The words “..there was no conspiracy” appear to be the words of the author of the book so can we be certain that the word ‘conspiracy’ was actually mentioned aboard Airforce One or was it more a case of Johnson being told that the evidence pointed to Oswald acting alone in killing Kennedy.

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White says he listened to the tape in the archives. so it ia fact that it says conspiracy. How could the White House Command (CROWN) know so much at 3m?
It is a good question

[cobalt]

They seemed to know more than the people investigating the crime.
Henry Wade mentioned the possibility of a second shooter at an evening press conference in Dallas.
One of the TSBD employees, who had been tagged as subversive due to some innocuous activity on behalf of veterans, was questioned around midnight IIRC.

[Doctored Whatsit]

Now your just being silly. Of course it is . Its right there in black and white. Another tick for the side of the truth.

I haven't got the faintest idea what you are talking about.

For the third time - the team selected to investigate on behalf of the WC were never given any request, guidance or encouragement to reach any specific conclusion. They have made this absolutely clear. They collected evidence and made their own decisions. In fact several of them said that when they started they believed that something as serious as the murder of the President must have been a conspiracy, but they couldn't find any evidence to justify such a claim.

That Johnson wanted a nice tidy conclusion that made his life easier is beyond dispute, but the investigating team were not given the slightest hint to suggest a particular result was required. It is totally erroneous to suggest otherwise.

[FISHY1118]

Do you not see the irony Fishy? You must do.

You criticise me for claiming that people lie and make mistakes whilst all the while claiming that people lied, faked evidence etc. I assume that it’s a case that only those on the conspiracy side have the ability to make judgments? I’ve already posted a very small section of the conspiracy theories that have been given credence by theorists which doesn’t exactly speak well of their judgment.

Well Herlock, your the one thats claiming Oswald killed JFK based solely on the Warren Commission findings , im just trying to show thats not the case . You claim we are all barking mad conspiracy theorist ,which is not the case at all . Showing evidence that contradicts the W.C is simply researching the facts that shows a different outcome that the one provided.

[FISHY1118]

Your opinion that the Warren Commission was a lie is simply that Fishy. Your opinion.

And ignoring evidence to the contrary. Which you yourself are doing . Thats my point