JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Patrick Differ]

So what was the purpose of keeping thousands of documents classified for 62 years? Who and What is being protected? Certainly not Oswald. The MOB?

[C. F. Leon]

So what was the purpose of keeping thousands of documents classified for 62 years? Who and What is being protected? Certainly not Oswald. The MOB?

Mostly protecting sources for LHO's days in the USSR and other CIA activity. LHO's activity concerning Cuba. And just stuff overlooked in the DOZENS of PREVIOUS FOI requests (misfiled, stuff people took home/stole for THEIR books, souvenirs, etc.). That kind of stuff. In other words, just general junk.

Of course, we will be treated to the usual declarations of "Smoking Guns" that PROVE various publicity hounds' pet "Theories". Several/Dozens of them.

[GBinOz]

A full metal jacket bullet is meant to stop an opponent at long range and the soft nosed to do more tissue damage at shorter ranges. The tissue damage to JFKs head was massive according to the Parkland Doctors. The Zapruder film shows a head moving forward at the same time it explodes back and to the left. Laws of physics show possibly 2 shots hitting the head in microseconds. This is possible in the laws of physics.

One question is if JFK were hit from a full metal jacketed bullet in the head, where did it go? It would not have exploded or deformed if we are to believe the single bullet theory on that type bullet performance, from the same gun. Did it hit the windshield? Agent Kellerman sitting in front of Connally who was by then on his back and down, said he thought it was more like a shooting gallery. He was not hit but in the line of fire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_VpUbJQuRc&rco=1&ab_channel=SouthKnollInv estigations

Who was the guy sitting in the pickup in the Cancellare photo? In the Zapruder film this pickup has the cargo area of this pickup with a cover and no person visible. A frangible projectile would have exploded into fragments in the President's head.

[GBinOz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsIsv0bZRw&ab_channel=HouseCommitteeontheJudiciary

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/douglas-p-horne/photographic-evidence-of-bullet-hole-in-jfk-limousine-windshield-hiding-in-plain-sight/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8emNECYgmg&ab_channel=%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%92%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB

[GBinOz]

Did LHO have two different Carcano's?

[Fiver]

Johnny Brewer's John Wayne tribute act inside the Texas Theatre was surely worthy of a Best Supporting Actor award.

So you're just fine with denigrating Brewer.

Brewer heard on the radio that a policeman had been shot, saw police cars, and saw a man who appeared to be avoiding the police and ducked into the Texas Theater without paying.

For a guy doing a John Wayne impersonation, that would be car salesman and former marine Ted Callaway. On hearing multiple gunshots, he ran towards the sound. Seeing the fleeing gunman, Calloway yelled at them. Calloway then went to Tippit's car, saw Tippit was dead, called in the shooting on the police radio, grabbed Tippit's gun, and set off looking for Tippit's murderer.

[Fiver]

The attack on General Walker is highly disputed and relies heavily on the testimony of Marina Oswald and a US/Russian whose name I can barely recall but had CIA fingerprints all over. He committed suicide when called to testify before the Church Committee around 1978. This man claimed Oswald spoke impeccable Russian: most others found his Russian demotic.

In addition to the testimony of Marina Oswald, Oswald had five pictures of Walker's house and in 1976, HSCA testing showed the badly damaged bullet could have come from Oswald's rifle.

George De Mohrenschildt and his wife Jeanne said he joked to Oswald about Oswald taking a shot at Walker, which ended the conversation, but they did not believe that Oswald did it at that time. That's it.

The Church Committee's final report was published in April 1976. In November 1976, Jeanne had de Mohrenschildt had her husband committed to a mental institution for three months, and listed in a notarized affidavit four previous suicide attempts. In the affidavit, she also stated that de Mohrenschildt suffered from depression, heard voices, saw visions, and believed that the CIA and the Jewish Mafia were persecuting him. De Mohrenschildt committed suicide in March of 1977. According to his daughter, De Mohrenschildt expressed a desire to kill himself a couple weeks before his suicide.

After De Mohrenschildt's suicide, someone claimed he had talked to them, saying "De Mohrenschildt told me that Oswald acted at his (de Mohrenschildt's) instructions and that he knew Oswald was going to kill Kennedy."

Jeanne de Mohrenschildt gave the HSCA a copy of a draft manuscript from her husband where he said Oswald was seldom violent and not the kind of person who would have killed JFK. It was published by the HSCA.

This man claimed Oswald spoke impeccable Russian: most others found his Russian demotic.

That is incorrect.

Mr. JENNER. Oswald was pretty proud, was he, of his ability to speak Russian?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. He was proud of it, yes; because it is quite an achievement for a man with a poor scholastic background to have learned the language. It is surprising to me. It was an extraordinary surprise for my wife and myself that he was able to learn to speak it so well for such a short time as he was supposed to have stayed in Russia. As I understand it, he stayed there some 2 years, I gather.
Mr. JENNER. That is all.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. And it is amazing.
Mr. JENNER. In speaking of that, as I recall, you noted he had a conversational command of the language.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. But that he did not speak a refined Russian.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No, no; not a refined Russian.
Mr. JENNER. He had trouble with his grammar?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, yes.
Mr. JENNER. Were there occasions when you knew them in which Marina would correct his grammar and there would be an altercation between them or something?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, yes; there was bickering all the time.

[Fiver]

There was no mistake involved in Lee Harvey Oswald being impersonated since it happened on around four occasions. On three of those it was a person using Oswald's name (the 1959 FBI memo, hiring a truck for gun running to Cuba and the Silvia Odio account where the name used was 'Leon Oswald.') The best known impersonation is the one with the wrong person in the photograph from Mexico City, when someone phoned an embassy claiming to be Oswald who clearly, according to the FBI analysis, was not him. With the latter two impersonations happening shortly before the assassination there was clearly something rotten in the state of Dallas.

Elvis continued to be sighted long after he was dead. That doesn't mean those sighting were deliberate impersonations.

* When Oswald applied for a passport in 1959, he said his primary reason was so that he could attend Albert Schweitzer College in Switzerland. After his defection, the FBI interviewed Oswald's mother, who said she had received a letter from Albert Schweitzer College, saying that Oswald had been accepted. The FBI, concerned that there might be an imposter using Oswald's birth certificate. Inquiries showed that Oswald had applied to Albert Schweitzer College.

So no impersonation, it was Oswald.

* In 1976, Robert McKeown claimed he had been approached by LHO in August or September of 1963 too purchase rifles for a takeover of San Salvador. McKeown also claimed he had helped Jack Rub smuggle guns to Castro in 1959. There is no evidence that McKeown ever met Ruby or Oswald.

* The Silvia Odio account and the photograph from Mexico City both occurred during the Mexico City trip that Oswald said he took. What kind of Conspiracy uses two imposters in different locations at the same time? We know that three men visited Odio. We have only Odio's word that one of them called himself Leon Oswald. Her description does not match Oswald. So that's either Odio being wrong or a Conspiracy being inept.

* Oswald said he went to Mexico City. Oswald visited the Cuban Embassy, according to them. Oswald visited the Soviet Embassy, according to them. The CIA sent a surveillance photo of the man they thought was Oswald. They were wrong.

So no impersonation, just an error on which photo was sent.

[Fiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_VpUbJQuRc&rco=1&ab_channel=SouthKnollInv estigations

Who was the guy sitting in the pickup in the Cancellare photo? In the Zapruder film this pickup has the cargo area of this pickup with a cover and no person visible. A frangible projectile would have exploded into fragments in the President's head.

We get barely more than a minute in before the video claims that most witnesses agreed that three or more shots were heard.

That's true, but it would be even more true to say most witnesses agreed that three or less shots were heard.

A tabulation shows
2% heard 1 shot.
12% heard 2 shots.
81% heard 3 shots.
5% heard 4 or more shots.

The video is deliberately being deceptive, so I stopped there.

[Fiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsI...ontheJudiciary

This video doesn't have deliberate deception, but it is assuming the headshot came from the front. That assumption is contradicted by the xrays and the Zparuder and Muchmore films, which indicate the fatal headshot came from behind JFK.

[Fiver]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2012/06/...n-plain-sight/

Unfortunately for all of these claimants, the limo windshield was photographed and examined.

Analysis shows that the windshield, CE 351, "Only cracks are visible, not bullet holes, meaning fragments of the bullet or fragments from JFK's skull could have hit the windshield but did not go through it."

[Fiver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8em...83%87%E3%83%AB

And this is selectively quoting the evidence, ignoring most statements by the doctors who performed the autopsy.

[Fiver]

Did LHO have two different Carcano's?

Both photos show the same attachments for the rifle sling, though the poor cropping of the left photo makes it harder to tell.

[cobalt]

Two points not addressed by Fiver's comment on impersonations.

First of all my previous date of 1959 was incorrect: the memo from Hoover, concerned someone may be using Oswald's name, was dated May 1960, some time after LHO's possible applications to a college. Oswald was ensconced in Minsk at this point.

If we leave aside the oddity of a wrong photo being sent by what we assume are highly trained personnel we are still left with the attempt to impersonate Oswald on tape. There is a dispute over whether these tapes were erased or not, but Hoover claimed his agents in Dallas heard them and concluded the voice was not Oswald's. (This at a time when Oswald was still alive.)

The problematic issue of Oswald's Russian language proficiency cropped up in the recorded tapes to the Soviet Embassy. Fiver was correct to pick me up on Mohrenschildt's assessment of Oswald's Russian; there was another Russian emigree who I had confused with Mohrenschildt who claimed to have discussed Russian literature with Oswald in Russian, an impossibility given what we know of Oswald's educational background.LHO displayed rudimentary Russian language ability in Minsk even although he was provided with individual tuition. His Minsk tutor has subsequently dismissed the idea that Oswald could have been faking his inability to develop his linguistic competence. But back in the USA Oswald's Russian was considered 'remarkably fluent' by Mohrenschildt.

[FISHY1118]

So our genius conspirators used two different types of bullet and just hoped that no one would notice?

Really Fishy?

Yes really Herlock, Because the Warren Commision Conspiracy were only interested in 3 shots Lone gunman from the TSBD with one type of bullet, but as we know there was a 4th shot Where is Kennedys head shot bullet ?