JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Patrick Differ]

A full metal jacket bullet is meant to stop an opponent at long range and the soft nosed to do more tissue damage at shorter ranges. The tissue damage to JFKs head was massive according to the Parkland Doctors. The Zapruder film shows a head moving forward at the same time it explodes back and to the left. Laws of physics show possibly 2 shots hitting the head in microseconds. This is possible in the laws of physics.

One question is if JFK were hit from a full metal jacketed bullet in the head, where did it go? It would not have exploded or deformed if we are to believe the single bullet theory on that type bullet performance, from the same gun. Did it hit the windshield? Agent Kellerman sitting in front of Connally who was by then on his back and down, said he thought it was more like a shooting gallery. He was not hit but in the line of fire?

On the other hand, a shot from the grassy knoll with a soft nose bullet from a gun like the Remington X100 or similar gun would explain the tissue damage and fragmentation illustrated by physics. A full metal jacket would have exited.

Unfortunately Oswald was assassinated and the Limo was sent to Detroit and scrubbed. How convenient and unbelievable that evidence would be so treated in the Murder of a President.

Oswald is innocent until proven guilty. Since he was assassinated that is impossible so in terms of fact..Oswald was never proven to be the killer. There would have been a defense.

The bullet type and wounds are one issue. The timing is another between film and gun performance and trajectory angles and the number of bullets is the third. All 3 of these issues are not conclusively proven.

Would the government lie to its citizens and withold documents? This happened in 1963.. it's 2025.

[Fiver]

SAnother hospital employee, O.P. Wright, who also saw the bullet on the stretcher, was not called to testify. Three years later, a researcher showed a photograph of the CE 399 bullet to Wright, who claimed that the bullet he had seen on the stretcher was of an entirely different type.

If a Conspiracy was going to plant a bullet, why would they switch it for a different bullet?

Who is running this Conspiracy; Moe, Larry, and Curly?

[Fiver]

To prove the soure totally wrong ,all you have to do is show Evidence of the 3rd bullet shot from the TSBD was caused by a metal jacketed bullet ,just like C399.

The HSCA proved it in 1976. Neutron activation tests showed CE 843 (from JFK's brain) and CE 567 (found on the front floorboard) were parts of the same bullet. CE 567 is the nose portion of a damaged 6.5-millimeter caliber full metal-jacketed, lead core bullet.

[Herlock Sholmes]

If we found absolutely conclusive proof of the rippers identity. Evidence that every Ripperologist conceded made it ‘game over’ would be feel obliged to keep repeating that the ripper was ‘innocent until proven guilty’ because he hadn’t made it to court? Oswald was proven guilty by an overwhelming weight of evidence. To believe that he was innocent you would have to be willing to stand up and say “I believe that Lee Harvey Oswald took a package of curtain rods to work which subsequently vanished into thin air.”

[Herlock Sholmes]

The HSCA proved it in 1976. Neutron activation tests showed CE 843 (from JFK's brain) and CE 567 (found on the front floorboard) were parts of the same bullet. CE 567 is the nose portion of a damaged 6.5-millimeter caliber full metal-jacketed, lead core bullet.

Prepare for the standard cry of ‘fake,’ Fiver.

[Herlock Sholmes]

If a Conspiracy was going to plant a bullet, why would they switch it for a different bullet?

Who is running this Conspiracy; Moe, Larry, and Curly?

The Stooges would have come up with a far more sensible plan.

[Doctored Whatsit]

'' although it can be argued that it wasn't a totally genuine trial''....... Without a real jury,, kinda makes a hugh difference one would think.

There was a jury, as I clearly explained, everything was conducted as if it were a real trial, the evidence was presented, and Oswald was found guilty unanimously. That was all I was pointing out, just for information purposes. I did this to cast some doubt on your claim that "no jury on earth would convict". In the only genuine attempt to create a real trial, he was found guilty. So I would suggest that it is certainly possible that a real jury would have convicted him

[Herlock Sholmes]

What jury would have taken seriously stories about curtain rods, planted fingerprints, all the witnesses identifying Oswald as the killer of Tippit being wrong, faked autopsy’s and x-rays. Theories and suspicions and wish thinking can’t beat evidence. Oswald would have been found guilty every time. Escaped justice when the barking mad Ruby shot him.

[Fiver]

Laws of physics show possibly 2 shots hitting the head in microseconds.

While two shots hitting within microseconds is theoretically possible, it would be impossible to do that on purpose.

Yet the Conspiracy requires that impossibility to hide a second shooter from the video evidence.

That's before we get into the Conspiracy having to falsify all of the forensic evidence so skillfully that it still holds up over 60 years later.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I’ll try one more time.

Why would our conspirators undertake a plan which required Oswald not being interrupted by co-workers, the need for fingerprints to be planted, a fake autopsy organised and set up, faked x-rays, faked photographs, forged documents, the setting up of the shooting of a police officer with a load of witnesses all fingering LHO and the setting up and maintaining of a corrupt government commission instead of - man with gun behind fence, bang, escape via waiting car. No need for further action before, during or after the event.

The answer is that they wouldn’t. You will all feel much better if you just say it - no one would possibly, under any circumstances, no matter how stupid or insane the plotters were, have chosen such a plan.

Therefore…it cannot have happened.

This is the way to approach the case. Not by reading Garrison, Lane, Groden etc.

Climb out of the rabbit-hole of conspiracy and take a dip in the cool reason and common sense of Lone Gunman Lake.

[Doctored Whatsit]

What jury would have taken seriously stories about curtain rods, planted fingerprints, all the witnesses identifying Oswald as the killer of Tippit being wrong, faked autopsy’s and x-rays. Theories and suspicions and wish thinking can’t beat evidence. Oswald would have been found guilty every time. Escaped justice when the barking mad Ruby shot him.

Impossible to disagree!

[Herlock Sholmes]

Impossible to disagree!

Hi Doc,

The problem is that they have on the one hand this wide ranging conspiracy (it would have had to have been wide-ranging to achieve what it allegedly did) with huge resources but on the other hand these conspirators were apparently idiots. They relied on luck, they massively over complicated, they initiated a conspiracy involving more people than died on The Somme and they supposedly placed a gunman on just about the worst spot imaginable. Who were these halfwits? They couldn’t have done worse if they’d given the Grassy Knoll killer a spear.

ps When I say ‘Grassy Knoll Killer’ I actually mean ‘totally non-existent person’ of course.

[cobalt]

Oswald claimed he was in the lunch room with Harold Norman and James Jarman when JFK was killed. That's his alibi.

No he didn't. He was reported as saying he saw them walking through the Domino Room close to the time of the assassination which the two men confirmed in regards to time.

Oswald never mentioned Danny Arce or Jack Dougherty being in the lunch room.

If you ever feel the need for a wild goose chase then read over Dougherty''s account of his movements in the TSBD on 22 November 1963. The kindest interpretation, which was suggested by his supervisors, was that Dougherty was intellectually impaired. His concept of time is not chronological.

So Oswald lied about having an alibi.

No he didn't. Besides, he doesn't need an alibi: no innocent man does. It's your duty to do what Jesse Curry believed no one had been able to do- put Oswald on the 6th floor at 12.30 with a rifle in his hand.

[Patrick Differ]

So what was the purpose of keeping thousands of documents classified for 62 years? Who and What is being protected? Certainly not Oswald. The MOB?

[C. F. Leon]

So what was the purpose of keeping thousands of documents classified for 62 years? Who and What is being protected? Certainly not Oswald. The MOB?

Mostly protecting sources for LHO's days in the USSR and other CIA activity. LHO's activity concerning Cuba. And just stuff overlooked in the DOZENS of PREVIOUS FOI requests (misfiled, stuff people took home/stole for THEIR books, souvenirs, etc.). That kind of stuff. In other words, just general junk.

Of course, we will be treated to the usual declarations of "Smoking Guns" that PROVE various publicity hounds' pet "Theories". Several/Dozens of them.