JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

Sherry Fiester refers to something similar to the jet effect, but calls it back spatter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_VpUbJQuRc&rco=1&ab_channel=SouthKnollInv estigations

We get barely more than a minute in before the video claims that most witnesses agreed that three or more shots were heard.

That's true, but it would be even more true to say most witnesses agreed that three or less shots were heard.

A tabulation shows
2% heard 1 shot.
12% heard 2 shots.
81% heard 3 shots.
5% heard 4 or more shots.

The video is deliberately being deceptive.

[Fiver]

The cleaning company, Acme Building & Maintenance, would have come into the building after hours, so no one would have thought some one in the building after hours was unusual.

Other members of the Acme Building and maintenance Company would have thought that it was unusual if some besides themselves was in the TSBD after hours. So would members of the Smith Detective Agency and Nightwatch Service, whose were supposed to periodically check the building at night.

That doesn't preclude someone entering the TSBD undetected after hours. But how does this person and their rifle remain undetected after people start showing up to work in the TSBD? Staying overnight is adding pointless additional risk to an already risky plan.

[Fiver]

Do you think that someone might have noticed Oswald carrying in this parcel that morning?


Note the snug fit between the cupped hand and the armpit.

Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, you know like I say, I didn't pay much attention to the package other than I knew he had it under his arm and I didn't pay too much attention the way he was walking because I was walking along there looking at the railroad cars and watching the men on the diesel switch them cars and I didn't pay too much attention on how he carried the package at all.

Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald carry any sort of large package?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't, but some of the fellows said they did.
Mr. BALL - Who said that?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.

[Fiver]

The FBI and CIA both had files on Oswald and Ruby before the assassination.

Feel free to provide evidence that the FBI and CIA had files on Ruby.

If people can recall Oswald on New Orleans TV handing out Leaflets for FPCC, that was a proven CIA counter intelligence operation.

If it's proven then you should have no problem providing proof that Oswald was part of a CIA counter intelligence operation in New Orleans.

Ruby was a known low level Mafia owned flunky who ran guns and prostitution for Marcello.

If it's known, you should gave no problem proving Ruby worked for the Mafia. Unless a dozen witnesses are lying, Ruby wasn't running prostitution for anyone. There's only one dubious claim that Ruby was involved in gun running. And Ruby's shaky financial position argues against him being a successful criminal.

It will come out.

No competent Conspiracy would have left records in the first place. And even a mostly incompetent Conspiracy has had 60 years to destroy the evidence.

[Fiver]

Interesting to see Robert Oswald quoted as a reliable source from Fiver who in his previous post said that the Oswald household was 'toxic' due to an uninterested/overindulgent mother.

Robert Oswald was cited to debunk the claim that "One common impression is that those who interacted with Oswald found it impossible to believe that he would be capable of assassinating the US president."

When asked how their mother had done raising Lee, Robert Oswald said "If we go and get right down to the bottom line, we have to say, really and truly, in all candor, [she did] a lousy job, a lousy job."

Robert also said "I don’t know at what age Mother verbalized the effect that she felt he was a burden to her. But she certainly conveyed it to John and I at very early ages. We’re talking seven, eight, nine, 10 years old. At what age Lee started gathering this, or sensing it, or hearing it and applying it to him, I don’t know. But certainly by age three, he had the sense, “I need to be someplace else.” Mother would be putting him with a nanny, or a babysitter, or in an orphan home with us, just to get us out of her hair. We were a burden."

[cobalt]

Yet despite being seen as a burden Robert Oswald never shot at the POTUS. So why did Lee?

[Patrick Differ]

Fiver this is all public domain HSCA and WC stuff. It's well cataloged in Chokeholds..Jim DiEugenio, Paul Bleau, Matt Crumpton , Andrew Iler and Mark Adamczyk...all recognized authorities on the subject.

Some people just want to know if it's government killed one of its Leaders and possibly 2 others. So if you believe the government of that time, good for you. I'm not sure why anyone would want to defend the WC or HSCA. Neither used any Standard of Proof as I mentioned before. That means the assassination was never thoroughly investigated.

Cant wait to hear how these experts are discredited.

[Patrick Differ]

Warren Commission XXII:CE 1205..Dallas Sheriff on Ruby and prostitution

ABC News 2003 interview with Robert Blakey..discusses Oswald as a Mob Hit and also relationship with Carlos Marcello

HSCA Volume VIII. Demolished WC rigged Jack Ruby polygraph

Burt Griffin and Leon Hubert were tasked to investigate Ruby for the WC. They stated that both Oswald and Ruby had ties to Cuban activities and Rubyvto the point of both gun sales and smuggling. Leads that neither WC nor HSCA followed up.

But others have and are.