What a Shamful act of Treason by Bugliosi ,trying to convince the world of lone assassin while all the time disrespecting the memories of all those who spoke the truth .
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Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
Tells us a lot about the Warren Commission doesn't it.'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
Third…you honestly don’t have to bother answering it’s my intention not to post on this subject again (if I can show a little will power)
It seems to me I've heard that song before.
Fourth…you say that nothing will change my mind as if I’m being bloody-minded whilst the conspiracy side are the open minded ones. I’d accuse the conspiracy side of being bloody minded. Of starting out from a position of conspiracy and then seeing everything in terms of it.
I wonder if saying that nothing will change your mind could be considered and unfair assessment? I have changed my mind, including recently, based on an examination of the medical, ballistic, witness and film evidence, but excluding lawyer double talk.
Ill finish by saying….all of those wider questions that I put to you….not one single poster has ever answered but, more importantly, no matter how confident conspiracy supporters on here claim to be, I have TWICE asked them to tell us what they actually believe…Oswald plus GK gunman, Unknown 6th floor gunman plus GK gunman, gunman firing from elsewhere and GK gunman, not one of them had the courage of their convictions to state something so simple.
With regard to your tick the box answers - none of the above.
Anyone would think that they were uncomfortable with scrutiny.
IMO there was a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, involving multiple shooting teams and including the provision of a patsy, by parties who would benefit from Kennedy's removal. The method involved countdown shots (synchronised similar to the 21 gun salute method) and probably some suppressed rifles. There was a separate cover up, to avoid an international incident, aimed at limiting the investigations only to the patsy.
IMO there were 3 shots from the sniper's nest by Malcolm Wallace using the Carcano - The Tague shot to draw attention, and 2 shots that hit Connolly.
I think there was a shot from the rear using a projectile that had previously been fired through the Carcano and was fired thought a 30 calibre rifle using a sabot and possibly a suppresser. This caused the shallow wound, with no exit, in Kennedy's back about 5 inches below the shoulder line.
I think there were 2 shots from the south knoll, the throat shot through the windscreen, and the fatal head shot, using frangible projectiles. On repeatedly watching the Zapruder film, I am considering that there may have been an almost simultaneous head shot from Wallace that may have also hit Connally.
I think that there was at least one shot from the Grassy knoll using a 45 calibre weapon, that missed, possibly deliberately to avoid hitting Jackie.
So Herlock, that's my opinion at this stage. I don't expect a reply as I am confident your will power will prevail.
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Originally posted by scottnapa View PostIt takes only one man to let Ruby into the basement.
Which leads to possibilities.
* A mentally unstable club owner succeeded by dumb luck.
* The Conspiracy chose a mentally unstable amateur shooter. He botched the job by arriving late and succeeded only by dumb luck.
* Oswald was part of the Conspiracy to have himself killed and used his psychic powers to know he needed to delay long enough for the bumbling assassin to get there.
Any Conspiracy answer requires that the Conspiracy be composed of idiots who only succeeded by dumb luck.
That's before we consider that murdering Oswald doesn't help the Conspiracy in any way.
* If Oswald knew too much, he's been replaced by Ruby, who knows too much. The Conspiracy gains nothing.
* If Oswald was just a patsy, he's been replaced by Ruby, who knows too much. The Conspiracy is worse off than before it murdered Oswald.
Originally posted by scottnapa View PostIt is not necessary to corrupt a police department or the FBI or the Secret Service The conspiracy need not involve a cast of thousands.
For example, faking the autopsy would require that everyone present - Army, Navy, Secret Service, FBI, and JFK's personal physician - be part of the Conspiracy"The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren
"Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer
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Originally posted by Patrick Differ View PostThe US Government has put together a Task Force in the House to investigate JFK, RFK and MLK Assassinations. I would advise waiting to see what comes of it.Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
I think they are uncomfortable with having to endlessly refute debunked replies.
IMO there was a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy, involving multiple shooting teams and including the provision of a patsy, by parties who would benefit from Kennedy's removal. The method involved countdown shots (synchronised similar to the 21 gun salute method) and probably some suppressed rifles. There was a separate cover up, to avoid an international incident, aimed at limiting the investigations only to the patsy.
IMO there were 3 shots from the sniper's nest by Malcolm Wallace using the Carcano - The Tague shot to draw attention, and 2 shots that hit Connolly.
I think there was a shot from the rear using a projectile that had previously been fired through the Carcano and was fired thought a 30 calibre rifle using a sabot and possibly a suppresser. This caused the shallow wound, with no exit, in Kennedy's back about 5 inches below the shoulder line.
I think there were 2 shots from the south knoll, the throat shot through the windscreen, and the fatal head shot, using frangible projectiles. On repeatedly watching the Zapruder film, I am considering that there may have been an almost simultaneous head shot from Wallace that may have also hit Connally.
I think that there was at least one shot from the Grassy knoll using a 45 calibre weapon, that missed, possibly deliberately to avoid hitting Jackie.
So Herlock, that's my opinion at this stage. I don't expect a reply as I am confident your will power will prevail.
Its never been proven to be anything but the actual recording ,that directly points the finger at LBJ, whos chief assassin was in fact Malcolm Wallace.
Its been the easiest thing, now 62 year later to completly expose the Warren' Commission lie.
W.C Apologist are totally ignorant of the fact that all they have, and all there ever going to have is s big bunch of lies and coverups. Multiple Changed testimony, false findings, and fake autopsy photos, which have been shown to be part of the biggest lie ever told.
Credit to you for giving us your detailed version of events of that day .
Indeed I agree with you ,it was certainly a extremely well planned and throught out complex assassination of jfk , and the patsy Oswald was the icing on the cake .
The wool was pulled over the eyes of the general public then as it is today.
But as they say "you can't put brains in monuments"'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman
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Dr. Robert McClelland Had The Best Close Up View Of JFK's Head Wound Than Any Other Doctor.
Here we see DR Robert McClelland prove the warren commission AUTOPSY PHOTOS ARE A FAKE .
Oh btw ''Actual evidence'' in case anybode ask
Start at the 13 minute mark of the interview video I am posting and hear Parkland surgery doctor Robert McClelland describe "in detail" the wound in the back of JFK's head and how much of JFK's brain matter was truly missing.
The man was just "18 inches" from JFK's skull in his position at the top of the table upon which JFK was laying. And he remained there for what 15, 20 or even 30 minutes?
What other Dr. or other witnesses to see JFK's head that close up within minutes of it's obliteration can one suggest to have had a better view of it, it's wound and brain matter loss including watching brain matter fall out of it right onto the cart/table underneath than Dr. McClelland?
McClelland's fellow surgeon Dr. Jones was right there just a couple of feet away from McClelland at JFK's side in Trauma Room 1 that day and in this interview he doesn't contradict one thing Dr. McClelland describes.
Bethesda Dr. Commander Humes said he didn't know why he nor anyone else failed to weigh JFK's brain upon his removal of it in his autopsy procedure. A procedure so standard in autopsies of criminal action head wound victims it is ludicrous that such an arrogantly confident man like Humes or even assisting Dr. Boswell could have missed this top priority criminal case evidence procedure just by forgetfulness.
Imo it suggest they purposely avoided weighing JFK's brain because it was too significantly blown out.
"The damn thing just fell out into my hands!"
Assisting Bethesda medical corpsman James Jenkins quoted a startled Humes as saying upon removing JFK's brain.
Dr. McClelland's description of the JFK back of the head wound and how much of JFK's brain was honestly missing (including more oozing out during JFK's ER treatment and even the chunk Jackie Kennedy held in her hand to give to another doctor there with McClelland) matches what Bethesda Navy Corpsman Paul O'Conner ( a trained brain removal technician ) described in sworn testimony.
That "for all essential purposes most of JFK's brain was gone!"
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View PostPlenty of talk about the method of ordering the rifle and the rifle that was actually delivered but let’s ask a simpler question.
Why would a group of conspirators, whose aim was to set LHO Oswald up as the killer, have ordered a rifle in the name of Hidell?it makes zero sense. You want to set up a man as a killer you order the rifle in his own name.
Just ask common sense questions and the case solves itself.
Why would someone use a false identity to order a rifle, then make sure he had that false identity on his person the day he uses that weapon to assassinate the President?
He could have used that fake identity to walk into any gun shop in Texas and walk out with an untraceable rifle, then burn the fake ID.
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