Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes
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If someone fired from the Grassy Knoll then the bullet would have been travelling in the direction of the President’s left rear. So why were all of the bullet fragments found in the front of the limousine and not the rear? As the author John Canal said “I’ve heard of ‘frangible’ and ‘explosive’ bullets, but not ‘bouncing’ bullets.” We also know from the x-rays that the left hemisphere of Kennedy’s brain was intact.
So the conspiracy side have..
A vanishing bullet
A bouncing bullet
A vanishing gunman
Have I missed anything?
Oh yeah, Beverly Oliver, the time travelling witness (using a camera that wasn’t available for another 6 years.)
Oh yeah, Gordon Turner, the invisible to cameras witness.
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So now that we know that CT’s super witness Dr. McClelland believed that a spray of blood concealed a rear head wound on the Zapruder film, we can see what passes for reason in conspiracy world where everything has to point in one direction even when it doesn’t. So what other offences to reason do we find? It’s a huge list of course but let’s confine ourselves to one aspect of the conspiracy miracle shall we.
How could a Grassy Knoll gunman have vanished into thin air?
A magic bullet is one thing but the CT’s have their very own magic gunman. We know that more than one person saw someone in the window of the sixth floor where the snipers nest was located but surely someone firing from behind a fence a few yards from witnesses couldn’t have gone unseen could they? Apparently so. We appear to be straying into the world of the supernatural here but that’s hardly surprising is it. If they can yell ‘fake’ at anything that doesn’t conform to their script then it’s only a short step to shouting ‘magic.’ I’m only surprised that we haven’t heard it already.
We will discount Virgil Hoffman and Jean Hill of course who, at the time said that they had seen no one but then remembered seeing a gunman 15-20 years later. Both of these are liars of course. Pure and simple. People looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
Lee Bowers was in the north tower 120 yards from the fence watching the motorcade pass by; looking directly at the fence. He saw no one with a rifle and certainly no one running away (as a gunman would have had to have done to be absent by the time that the first people arrived at the fence) It is physically impossible for a Grassy Knoll shooter to have got away with Bowers seeing. Therefore there can only be one explanation (apart from the killer having an invisibility cloak or the ability to dematerialise) There was no one there.
Immediately after the shots Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone ran behind the picket fence and into the railway yard. He saw nothing and no one. He even asked Bowers if he’d seen anyone and he said no. Boone also checked the recently turned flower beds for footprints…none.
Austin Miller was on the overpass. Just after the shots looked to see if anyone was running across the railroad tracks. There was no one.
SM Holland, who was also one the overpass (and who felt that the shots came from the Knoll btw) immediately after the shots ran to his left to see if he could see anyone near the picket fence or in the railway yard. He saw no one.
Deputy Sheriff WW “Bo” Mabra went to the area behind the picket fence immediately after the shots were fired to help with the search and saw no one. He spoke to a uniformed officer who had been stationed in the railway yard yards and who had the whole area in view and he’d seen no one.
Officer Joe Smith checked all of the car in the car park and found no one.
Sheriff Buddy Walther, who had been positioned in front of the Sheriff’s office) was asked if he’d thought of the picket fence area as a source for the shots? He said “No, it never entered my mind…Knowing how this thing is arranged, and I have chased a couple of escapees across the thing before, and knowing what was over there, the thought that anyone was shooting from there - I've heard some people say he was behind the fence, and I’m telling you, it just can’t be, because it’s a wide open…area as far as you can go…The thought that anyone would be shooting off of there would be almost an impossible thing. There’s no place for him to go. There’s nothing.”
Former Dallas sheriff Jim Bowles summed it up nicely: “Isn’t it strange that an assassin firing from a concealed position up on the sixth floor and inside a building was observed by several people, but the supposed second assassin, comparatively out in the open and in front of the action in the line of sight of many bystanders and photographers, was not seen before, during or after by a living soul?”
I wouldn’t call it ‘strange’ Jim. I’d call it downright impossible. It’s nice to occasionally feel the cool breeze of common sense and reason.
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
Try again herlock your not making sense. CLINT HILL , JACKIE KENNEDY , AND COUNLESS OTHERS, WHO BTW HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY WITNESSED THE MASSIVE HOLE IN THE BACK OF JFKS HEAD !!!!!!. STOP CALLING THEM LIARS BASED ON THE ZFILM THAT WAS REALESED TO THE PUBLIC 12 YEARS LATER !!!!!!! .YOUR DREAMOING MATE . SERIOUSLY , ITS ANY WONDER GEORGE LEFT . ITS LIKE BANGING YOUR HEAD UP AGAINST A BRICK WALL .
Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right . The humpty dumpty effect .
I found a couple of videos that may be of interest to you. They debunk the "jet effect" and the "Neuromuscular reaction" theories.
Sherry Fiester refers to something similar to the jet effect, but calls it back spatter.
Of course the effect applies only to frangible projectiles, not full metal jacketed military rounds. Alvarez used frangible 30.06 projectiles hand loaded to 3000fps.
Cheers, George
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And while we’re at it perhaps it’s a good time to mention one of those Parkland doctors (Fishy’s infallible witnesses) Dr. McClelland.
On his admission note that he wrote on 4.45pm on the day of the assassination he wrote that Kennedy had died from a “gunshot wound of the left temple.”
So our star witness placed the wound on the wrong side of Kennedy’s head!
McClelland tried to wriggle out of it by saying that he wrote it because it was what Dr Jenkins had told him. Dr Jenkins naturally denied this. But we have to ask ourselves this - how could McClelland have had a strong and accurate opinion of Kennedy’s wounds if he was, according to his own words, willing to write down anything that someone else told him? And of course…no mention of a rear head wound.
And what happened when superstar conspiracy theorist Robert Groden wrote about it in his book? He doctored it…he changed left to right. And CT’s have the nerve to try taking the higher ground.
And finally, let’s remind ourselves how this star witness, beloved of the conspiracy crowd, tried to explain away the lack of a rear head wound…
“What the explanation for this is, I just don't know, but what I believe happened is that the spray of brain matter and blood was kind of like a bloodscreen, similar to a smokescreen, that precluded a clear view of the occipital area."
I’d ask everyone to read that more than once and let it sink in. These are the words of a Doctor. Supposedly an intelligent man. And this is one of the witnesses that Fishy would trust over film footage, photos and x-rays.
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
Try again herlock your not making sense. CLINT HILL , JACKIE KENNEDY , AND COUNLESS OTHERS, WHO BTW HAVE BEEN MENTIONED ALREADY WITNESSED THE MASSIVE HOLE IN THE BACK OF JFKS HEAD !!!!!!. STOP CALLING THEM LIARS BASED ON THE ZFILM THAT WAS REALESED TO THE PUBLIC 12 YEARS LATER !!!!!!! .YOUR DREAMOING MATE . SERIOUSLY , ITS ANY WONDER GEORGE LEFT . ITS LIKE BANGING YOUR HEAD UP AGAINST A BRICK WALL .
Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right . The humpty dumpty effect .
And while you are getting irate about me questioning the accuracy of witnesses perhaps you might take the time out from the weighty task of copying and pasting the entirety of Gil Jesus’ website to answer this question - why is it wrong for me to question the accuracy of witnesses when you are doing exactly the same thing? Is there one rule for you and one for me? You are questioning the accuracy of those 6 Parkland doctors who saw a wound at the side of Kennedy’s head. Also those Dealey Plaza witnesses like Abraham Zapruder and the Newman’s who saw a large wound at the side of Kennedy’s head and not at the back.
Its also noticeable that you have avoided answering yet another question which was - if you are going to put your confidence in the majority of eyewitnesses (who favoured a rear head wound) then why do you reject that principal in other circumstances? Why don’t you accept the majority who felt that the shots came from the direction of the TSBD? Why don’t you accept the majority who felt that there were only 3 shots? Or does the ‘favour the majority’ rule only apply when it suits you?
The problem of course is that you are simply cherrypicking witnesses that favour your point whilst dismissing those that don’t (whilst not even bothering to mention them). Fatally for your argument though is that those other witnesses are supported by the actual physical evidence. The Zapruder film, photographs and x-rays trump all eyewitnesses. Every single one, every single time. This is just how it is but you are trying to reverse normal investigative practices to further your own agenda. Typical CT really.Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 04-07-2025, 01:34 PM.
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Originally posted by FISHY1118173 of 929 pages of actual evidence 756 to go . AS REQUESTED OF COURSE
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
How many times do you want me to explain this Fishy. The wounds to Kennedy’s head were on the side. You can see this on the Zapruder film if you look at it with your eyes open and with the conspiracy goggles on. That is cast iron, irrefutable proof that there was no large wound in the back of the head as claimed by those fallible human witnesses. Movie footage isn’t fallible.
The Zapruder film proves the witnesses wrong. It’s black and white. Ask a police officer Fishy “what would you give priority to - witness testimony or film footage.”
Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right . The humpty dumpty effect .
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
And where did Abraham Zapruder himself say that the wound was….oh yeah.
No Zapruder though. Focused 100% on the head and saw the side of the head wound. Zapruder is the most reliable witness in Dealey Plaza.
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
If every single witness that conspiracy theorists say “why weren’t they called” had actually been called the Warren Commission report would have been published last week!
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Originally posted by FISHY1118VIDEO: Witnesses who were ignored by the Warren Commission and why .
What was the Warren commision conspiracy afraid of ??? Thats right THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!
A video compilation of the witnesses and what they had to say:
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
Explain the this then which you have ignored ,Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right .
I SUPPOSE THEY STUCK HIM ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN LIKE HUMPTY DUMTY ????.
The Zapruder film proves the witnesses wrong. It’s black and white. Ask a police officer Fishy “what would you give priority to - witness testimony or film footage.”
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
You were talking about when they released this current batch. I predicted that you would wriggle and I was correct. You will hear in 30 years time still claiming “there’s one last file still hidden in there with the conspirators plan written on it.” Just like those people who predict the end of the world.
Have you come with with some fake excuse for the HUMPTY DUMPTY autopsy photos yets ?
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Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
When they release ''All the files'' . Make sure you get the facts right, dont just assume things .You know how that always make you look .
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
At all points you can see the rear of Kennedy’s head.
No cavernous wound.
No damage.
Absolute proof that the witnesses were wrong (apart from those that correctly placed the wound on the side of Kennedy’s head of course)
I SUPPOSE THEY STUCK HIM ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN LIKE HUMPTY DUMTY ????.
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