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  • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

    Let me rephrase it then and say none of the others were killed in daylight hours sunrise that morning was 5.24am

    www.trevormarriott.co.uk
    That doesnít prove anything though. There could have been any number of reasons why this murder took place later.
    Regards

    Herlock




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    • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

      Let me rephrase it then and say none of the others were killed in daylight hours sunrise that morning was 5.24am

      www.trevormarriott.co.uk
      Okay, but if Nichols was killed around 3:45am that's around 2 hours later than Eddowes. In contrast, if Chapman was killed at 5:24am, that's around 1 hour and 39 minutes later than Nicholls, so a smaller differentiation. And Kelly could feasibly have been killed closer to 5:24 than, say, 3:45 or 1:45. We just don't know.
      Last edited by John G; 09-07-2019, 11:40 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

        Phillips dodgy TOD (which we now know can safely be discarded)






        The Baron

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        • Originally posted by The Baron View Post







          The Baron
          Not sure why you are laughing.
          The opinion of forensic pathologists does not agree with you.
          That you refuse to accept expert opinion says all one needs to know.

          Steve

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          • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

            Not sure why you are laughing.
            The opinion of forensic pathologists does not agree with you.
            That you refuse to accept expert opinion says all one needs to know.

            Steve
            Didnít you know Steve?

            Professors Baron, Fishy and Fish are all leading experts on the subject whose opinions carry more weight that the published authorities on the subject.
            Regards

            Herlock




            “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
            “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
            “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
            “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
            “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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            • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

              Exactly John.

              Apparently itís acceptable for Eddowes murder to have taken place two hours before Nichols TOD but unacceptable for Chapman to have been killed two hours after.

              Do serial killers only work nights? Have I missed something?

              The lengths that some will go to to try and make a point.
              It's just a case of certain posters needing a certain time of death for a certain victim to fit there own terrible suspect and or theory Herlock.

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              • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                It's just a case of certain posters needing a certain time of death for a certain victim to fit there own terrible suspect and or theory Herlock.
                It has to be John. Why else the need to ignore every Forensic expert in print and the desperate lengths to discredit witnesses. Itís Deane isnít it that the 4 main posters arguing for Phillips and against the worldís authorities on the subject are: Fish - doesnít want the murder to be after Lechmere started work at 4.00/ Fishy - believes the discredited Knight/Sickert theory and so needs Chapmen killed earlier and elsewhere!/ Packers Stem - also believes that Annie was killed elsewhere and The Baron who just follows me from thread to thread to disagree with me on any topic.

                Would you say that this is a coincidence John?

                Regards

                Herlock




                “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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                • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                  It has to be John. Why else the need to ignore every Forensic expert in print and the desperate lengths to discredit witnesses. Itís Deane isnít it that the 4 main posters arguing for Phillips and against the worldís authorities on the subject are: Fish - doesnít want the murder to be after Lechmere started work at 4.00/ Fishy - believes the discredited Knight/Sickert theory and so needs Chapmen killed earlier and elsewhere!/ Packers Stem - also believes that Annie was killed elsewhere and The Baron who just follows me from thread to thread to disagree with me on any topic.

                  Would you say that this is a coincidence John?
                  No coincednce whatsoever Herlock. I've also noted the posters in question. I have to say though. I'm not sure what The Baron is up to or what his motives are?

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                  • Originally posted by John Wheat View Post

                    No coincednce whatsoever Herlock. I've also noted the posters in question. I have to say though. I'm not sure what The Baron is up to or what his motives are?
                    He doesnít post often John but when he does itís 99% certain that itís straight onto a thread that Iím on and his post is always to disparage one of my posts. He cheers on anyone that disagrees with me. On this thread itís Fisherman on the Druitt thread it was Trevor. I honestly think that if I posted that Queen Victoria was a woman heíd post telling me that Iíd got it wrong. Thereís another poster who is similar but not as bad. Itís weird. Iím usually the one saying that we shouldnít be too certain of things.

                    Make a post saying that that I donít know what Iím talking about and youíll make a friend for life John.
                    Regards

                    Herlock




                    “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                    “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                    “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                    “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                    “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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                    • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                      It has to be John. Why else the need to ignore every Forensic expert in print and the desperate lengths to discredit witnesses. Itís Deane isnít it that the 4 main posters arguing for Phillips and against the worldís authorities on the subject are: Fish - doesnít want the murder to be after Lechmere started work at 4.00/ Fishy - believes the discredited Knight/Sickert theory and so needs Chapmen killed earlier and elsewhere!/ Packers Stem - also believes that Annie was killed elsewhere and The Baron who just follows me from thread to thread to disagree with me on any topic.

                      Would you say that this is a coincidence John?
                      I donít know how Deane appeared? I think I intended to post strange.
                      Regards

                      Herlock




                      “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                      “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                      “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                      “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                      “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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                      • Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                        Not sure why you are laughing.
                        The opinion of forensic pathologists does not agree with you.
                        That you refuse to accept expert opinion says all one needs to know.

                        Steve

                        You have written a book lately I think, haven't you ?! Then I suppose you must have good experience or some connections with experts by now, good!

                        I CHALLENGE you, to give me only ONE expert, who says EXACTLY those words:

                        Phillips dodgy TOD (which we now know can safely be discarded)

                        All of those words exactly including the doctor's name (Dr. Phillip) I may accept the exclusion of the word (dodgy) which I doubt an expert would say, but who knows what expert you can come up with.


                        I will not buy nor read your book until you bring me this! Even then, I don't feel interested really after reading some of your hasty posts just to support a friend, or to satisfy a bias.


                        But thanks for commenting any way.



                        The Baron
                        Last edited by The Baron; 09-07-2019, 10:00 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by The Baron View Post


                          You have written a book lately I think, haven't you ?! Then I suppose you must have good experience or some connections with experts by now, good!

                          I CHALLENGE you, to give me only ONE expert, who says EXACTLY those words:

                          Phillips dodgy TOD (which we now know can safely be discarded)

                          All of those words exactly including the doctor's name (Dr. Phillip) I may accept the exclusion of the word (dodgy) which I doubt an expert would say, but who knows what expert you can come up with.


                          I will not buy nor read your book until you bring me this! Even then, I don't feel interested really after reading some of your hasty posts just to support a friend, or to satisfy a bias.


                          But thanks for commenting any way.



                          The Baron
                          These are my words they are not an exact quote!

                          But here is a genuine quotes from an expert:

                          from Knight's Forensic Pathology: Sir Bernard Knight, one of the most respected authorities on the subject:

                          "In spite of the great volume of research and publications already mentioned, accuracy in estimating the time since death from temperature remains elusive. The old rule-of-thumb was that temperature fell at about 1.5degF/h, something under 1degC/h. Another rule of thumb was that the fall in degC from 37degC, plus three (to arbitrarily allow for the plateau), was equal to the time since death in hours. The only confidence that one could place in these methods was that they were almost always wrong, and that, if the answer happened to be correct, it was by chance rather than science!"

                          This tells us that estimating TOD by temperature, as Phillips did, was extremely unreliable as Iíve always said and youíve always treated with mockery.

                          Please explain to us how your expertise exceeds that of Sir Bernard Knight?
                          Regards

                          Herlock




                          “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                          “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                          “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                          “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                          “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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                          • And hereís one explaining why itís unsafe to use stomach content to estimate TOD

                            http://viewfromwilmington.blogspot.c...-estimate.html

                            In the conclusion part we have this quote:


                            ďDr. Jaffe correctly cautioned his readers about dangers of overinterpreting stomach contents as they relate to TOD.Ē

                            Please explain to us how your expertise exceeds that of Dr Jaffa?
                            Regards

                            Herlock




                            “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                            “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                            “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                            “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                            “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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                            • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                              It has to be John. Why else the need to ignore every Forensic expert in print and the desperate lengths to discredit witnesses. Itís Deane isnít it that the 4 main posters arguing for Phillips and against the worldís authorities on the subject are: Fish - doesnít want the murder to be after Lechmere started work at 4.00/ Fishy - believes the discredited Knight/Sickert theory and so needs Chapmen killed earlier and elsewhere!/ Packers Stem - also believes that Annie was killed elsewhere and The Baron who just follows me from thread to thread to disagree with me on any topic.

                              Would you say that this is a coincidence John?
                              Thanks for the mention

                              Nothing to do with theory, just available evidence.
                              Phillips could have been slightly out but as the digestion of potato completely and utterly backs him up I'm good with it .
                              It's you who has to look for 'exceptions' to the norm to make your beliefs fit , not I
                              ..... and now I'll disappear to other threads again
                              You can lead a horse to water.....

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                              • Originally posted by packers stem View Post

                                Thanks for the mention

                                Nothing to do with theory, just available evidence.
                                Phillips could have been slightly out but as the digestion of potato completely and utterly backs him up I'm good with it .
                                It's you who has to look for 'exceptions' to the norm to make your beliefs fit , not I
                                ..... and now I'll disappear to other threads again
                                Digestion is unreliable. Evidence has been posted. Itís dead. End of.
                                Regards

                                Herlock




                                “ Herlock is the cleverest man that I’ve ever met.” - Stephen Hawking.
                                “ I wish that I could have achieved half as much as Herlock.”- Neil Armstrong.
                                “ What a voice Herlock has.” - Luciano Pavarotti.
                                “ I wish that I could dump Harry for Herlock.” - Meghan Markle.
                                “ I know that it’s not good to be jealous but I just can’t help it.” - John Holmes.

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