6d. Did Liz spend it, or die for it?

[DRoy]

Jon,

I'm aware of the complications...but that's only if Schwartz's interpreter gave the exact info as Schwartz said it and it was written exactly as Schwartz meant it.

Since Schwartz was considered to be such an important witness, you'd assume he would have been questioned intensely yet does his statement seem thorough and detailed? Not to me. So either the statement we have is really just a summary or it could be because it was difficult to get info from Schwartz and the interpreter so that's all they could get. But were there things lost in translation?

Cheers
DRoy

[Semper_Eadem]

Hello Same.

"She probably spent in on liquor. I think she was on a pub crawl."

Could be. Of course, there was no trace of such in her system. Maybe the invisible signs?

Cheers.
LC

Hi Lynn, I saw that after I made that post. How much beer would 6d buy though? Perhaps there wasn't enough alcohol in her system to show up. Although for all I know she could of given it to a friend to hold, been murdered and the aforementioned friend knowing that Liz was dead and not needing her money anymore would have pocketed it.

Geo~

[Wickerman]

Who said BS Man killed Liz?

DRoy

This is just an exercise , some might believe BSman is more likely to be her killer than the suggestion she was attacked twice within 15 minutes. Whether a possible second assault was 'Jack' or not also remains debatable.
Then again, Kidney could have appeared on the scene after BSman left.

The trouble is, any argument that has BSman walking away leaving Stride alive requires unsubstantiated leaps of faith in the existence of another suspect.

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[Wickerman]

You would have to think that if the police suspected Kidney of being the BS man that they would have asked Schwartz to identify him.

c.d.

Schwartz was never asked to identify anybody that we know of in spite of the police arresting a couple of person's..

"... They arrested one man on the description thus obtained, and a second on that furnished from another source, but they are not likely to act further on the same information without additional facts..."

Wouldn't the police bring Schwartz in to identify either of these two?, assuming the Star article is accurate.

We don't hear of Schwartz helping the police at all, in fact he drops from view. Which in itself is an oddity, unless he did not get a sufficiently good look at either of the men he saw.

.

[DRoy]

c.d. & Lynn,

Your united front is scaring me, please go back to disagreeing

Who said BS Man killed Liz?

DRoy

[DRoy]

Hello Roy. Thanks.

"being simple minded doesn't mean he's a pussycat."

Indeed. But many non-pussycats slit no throats.

Cheers.
LC

Haha! That made me laugh! Well done Lynn!

Cheers
DRoy

[lynn cates]

agreed

Hello CD.

"You would have to think that if the police suspected Kidney of being the BS man that they would have asked Schwartz to identify him."

Zounds! We agree twice in one day! Send help. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

What's new, Pussycat?

Hello Roy. Thanks.

"being simple minded doesn't mean he's a pussycat."

Indeed. But many non-pussycats slit no throats.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

no genius

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"Leaping to the next question, (if BS man was Kidney), did he know her patch, or did someone tell him where she was going that night, and perhaps why?"

If Berner was Liz's patch, suddenly, Michael Kidney looks like a genius. (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[c.d.]

You would have to think that if the police suspected Kidney of being the BS man that they would have asked Schwartz to identify him.

c.d.

[DRoy]

Lynn,

Hang on. she may have been upset and had him charged. When she cooled down and thought it over, she didn't show up.

Possible, but so is alien abduction

I appreciate that, but Kidney is rather like the forger Piggott. Both were laughed at in court, and the silly buggers laughed with them. that tells me something.

Did Kidney laugh too? Regardless, being simple minded doesn't mean he's a pussycat.

Cheers
DRoy

[Wickerman]

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"Do you think the direction walked by BS-man, south down Berner St. is consistent with Kidney coming from his home looking for Stride?"

More or less. Would be even better if he knew why Liz was on Berner.

Cheers.
LC

Precisely what occurred to me as I was posting the question.

Leaping to the next question, (if BSman was Kidney), did he know her patch, or did someone tell him where she was going that night, and perhaps why?

.

[lynn cates]

brains

Hello Velma. Thanks.

"I'm not sure we can presuppose a bit of brains when someone lashes out."

Well, that certainly describes Kidney. No reason to suppose brains in his case.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

perhaps

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"Do you think the direction walked by BS-man, south down Berner St. is consistent with Kidney coming from his home looking for Stride?"

More or less. Would be even better if he knew why Liz was on Berner.

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hello Velma. Thanks.

Did any of them actually laugh along?

I can see turning on your tormentors, but that seems to presuppose a bit of grey matter. See little evidence of his.

Cheers.
LC

I don't think we can know if they laughed along. It seems to me that often people do sort of laugh along, perhaps nervously, because they're learned they need to be doing what other people are.

I'm not sure we can presuppose a bit of brains when someone lashes out.

curious