Who put Bella in the Witch Elm?

[Herlock Sholmes]

I'd love to read a full book dedicated to the case, but I'm wary about shelling out £20 on a book that hints at Nazi spies on the cover.

Was it MJ Trow that came up with the Robert Mann theory?

Yeah, that’s the guy Al. He wrote a book on the Torso murders too. And Cleopatra and The Princes In The Tower and Vampires and Spartacus. I looked on his website and I make this his 107th book though that’s positively lazy compared to Barbara Cartland’s 723 (no, I haven’t read her books I had to Google that fact before you say it)

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

MJ Trow has a book out next year on the case.

https://www.fantasticfiction.com/t/m...ood-murder.htm

I'd love to read a full book dedicated to the case, but I'm wary about shelling out £20 on a book that hints at Nazi spies on the cover.

Was it MJ Trow that came up with the Robert Mann theory?

[Herlock Sholmes]

MJ Trow has a book out next year on the case.

https://www.fantasticfiction.com/t/m-j-trow/hagley-wood-murder.htm

[Pcdunn]

Hello. I have never heard of this case, but it is interesting. I looked up the Wikipedia entry on "who put Bella in the Wych Elm?" and the theories are all fairly wild.

I wonder if the graffiti was written by one of the youths who had discovered the woman's body?

[Herlock Sholmes]

The Coley book adds nothing new as expected. At least I only paid £4 for it.

It adds one story of an old man who said that Bella used to sing in his parents pub and another one in town. She disappeared without warning after becoming friendly with the man’s mother (who’d given her a pair of shoes because her own were full of holes) The storyteller said that he didn’t like the look of the man that lived with her.

Theres also a photograph of Bob Hart, one of the boys that found Bella, as an adult.

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The other book, that I’m about to begin, is The Case That Foiled Fabian, about the murder of Charles Walton which has been linked by some to the Bella case. Although any contention by McCormick doesn’t overwhelm you with confidence.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I just had 2 books arrive and one was Bella: An Unsolved Murder by Joyce M Coley. Only 26 pages long.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Later film. Other might enjoy.

Sherlock Holmes (1932) with Clive Brook - YouTube

I’ve never really understood why one is easily available but not the other?

[DJA]

It’s The Return Of Sherlock Holmes (1929) with Clive Brook. The first talking Holmes movie.

Later film. Other might enjoy.

Sherlock Holmes (1932) with Clive Brook - YouTube

[Abby Normal]

thanks herlock and DJA-ill have to check those out!!

[DJA]

Abby,

You'd enjoy "They Might Be Giants",1971.

[Herlock Sholmes]

hi herlock
ive been getting into the SH lately. i own murder by decree, a study in terror and hound of the baskervilles (cushing, lee). can you recommend a couple of the next best ones? nothing too old and or black and white.

Hi Abby,

A few suggestions....

The Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes

A Billy Wilder movie and the favourite of Mark Gatiss who created Sherlock. Stars Robert Stephens as Holmes. Christopher Lee plays Mycroft.

The Seven Percent Solution starring Nicol Williamson as Holmes. Holmes has a drug problem and Mycroft and Watson trick him into going to Austria on Moriarty’s trail but really they want him to see Sigmund Freud. When he meets Freud he gets involved in a case.

Ian Richardson was a good Holmes and appeared in two 1980’s TV movies. The Hound and The Sign of Four.

Ill add a wildcard; one of my favourites. Murder Rooms: The Dark Beginnings Of Sherlock Holmes.

Richardson plays Dr Joseph Bell who was Doyle’s inspiration for Holmes. Doyle becomes his assistant at the University and Doyle helps the police with investigations. So basically Bell = Holmes and Doyle = Watson.

Brilliant series. One pilot episode then 3 (or was it 4?) more episodes. All movie length.

Im sure you’ve seen the Grenada series with Jeremy Brett, Abby? Best Holmes ever imo.

Hope that helps

[Abby Normal]

I was conned when I first got Der Hund. No subtitles when it arrived so I had to buy it again. Then one got damaged in the post. Then they replaced it with the wrong film! It would have been less hassle learning German.

hi herlock
ive been getting into the SH lately. i own murder by decree, a study in terror and hound of the baskervilles (cushing, lee). can you recommend a couple of the next best ones? nothing too old and or black and white.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Der Hund von Baskerville is available on Bluray along with the 1914 version.

I was conned when I first got Der Hund. No subtitles when it arrived so I had to buy it again. Then one got damaged in the post. Then they replaced it with the wrong film! It would have been less hassle learning German.

[DJA]

recently discovered Hound Of The Baskerville silent with Carlyle Blackwell.

Der Hund von Baskerville is available on Bluray along with the 1914 version.

[Herlock Sholmes]

One of our American members could put in a request to Library of Congress for a copy.

Also available in silent

Meh. At worst LoC can say no.

No doubt you have the John Barrymore film.

Yes I’ve got the Barrymore one and recently discovered Hound Of The Baskerville silent with Carlyle Blackwell.

I know someone who knows some who...(you get the picture) who has the film. He’s in the process of tracking him down. He was living in Germany but he’s now in Norway apparently so it’s fingers crossed. If I don’t get it it won’t be the end of the world. I don’t collect as much as I used to. Collecting can get out of control and way too expensive. I once spent £450 on a two autograph only for my 5 year old nephew to tear it up.