JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Herlock Sholmes]

And where did Abraham Zapruder himself say that the wound was….oh yeah.

[Fiver]

Maybe your browser is playing up again. Try obscure sites like 'Wikipedia,' 'Politico,' and 'Spartacus Educational,' the latter of which provides most detail on McCloy's conversion to the WC narrative.

Spartacus makes lots of unsourced claims about what McCloy said. Spartacus provides no evidence that McCloy doubted the Single Bullet theory, or thought Oswald was a fake defector, or thought Oswald worked for the CIA, or thought JFK might have been hit from the front, or was told that Oswald had worked for the FBI.

The only sourced quote is an 1967 interview with McCloy. It supports the other members of the Warren Commission and the overall findings.

"There have been a number of suggestions that the Commission, for example, was only motivated by a desire to put - to make things quiet, so as to give comfort to the Administration, or give comfort to the people of the country, that there was nothing vicious about this. Well, that wasn't the attitude that we had at all."

"But you can rely on common sense. And you know that seven men aren't going to get together, of that character, and concoct a conspiracy, with all of the members of the staff we had, with all of the investigative agencies - it would have been a conspiracy of a character so mammoth and so vast that it transcends any - even some of the distorted charges of conspiracy on the part of Oswald."

[Fiver]

I thought I just post "Actual Evidence" as requested by Herlock no matter what source it comes from .

All that you are doing is spamming a site that selectively quotes sources, states opinions as facts, and frequently lies about the evidence.

The fake Autopsy photos = case closed.

So far, neither you, nor anyone else, has provided evidence that the autopsy photos were faked. The photos and x-rays have been repeatedly examined by experts and not one trace of forgery has been found.

[Fiver]

Nope. Gil Jesus’s opinion. His opinion doesn’t count.

Not everything Gil says is opinion - a lot of it is provable lies.

[Fiver]

I dare say that Patrick is struggling with your somewhat condescending logic in that, while you dismiss Knottlab as not adopting the "correct" Zapruder frame....

I dismiss Knott Labs for claiming a frame that is clearly after the bullet struck as the frame where the bullet struck.

[Herlock Sholmes]

So far, neither you, nor anyone else, has provided evidence that the autopsy photos were faked. The photos and x-rays have been repeatedly examined by experts and not one trace of forgery has been found.

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

[Pcdunn]

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

I can't help thinking that the best support for the Warren Commission and the House-Senate investigations being correct is that young Thomas Crook (the alleged shooter in last July's attempt on Mr Trump's life) was not only killed himself, but his body was cremated within 2 weeks, forestalling even an attempt at a Congressional investigation. Whoever was behind this new conspiracy had seen how thorough those things could be.

[FrankO]

I dismiss Knott Labs for claiming a frame that is clearly after the bullet struck as the frame where the bullet struck.

In 222 and 223 Connally is seen with his shoulder line close to horizontal, which at 224 changes slightly and at 225 even more, as he's in the process of turning forward.

[FISHY1118]

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

When they release ''All the files'' . Make sure you get the facts right, dont just assume things .You know how that always make you look .

[FISHY1118]

At all points you can see the rear of Kennedy’s head.

No cavernous wound.

No damage.

Absolute proof that the witnesses were wrong (apart from those that correctly placed the wound on the side of Kennedy’s head of course)

Explain the this then which you have ignored ,Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right .


I SUPPOSE THEY STUCK HIM ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN LIKE HUMPTY DUMTY ????.

[FISHY1118]

THE WARNINGS



How did all of these people know Lee Harvey Oswald was going to kill Kennedy ? What great question given the list below .



The Fulbright warning


Senators were prominent among those who urged Kennedy not to go to Dallas. In October 1963, J.William Fulbright (D-Ark) made it plain that Kennedy should go nowhere near the city, especially after the Dallas Morning News had attacked the president rather fiercely in an editorial for his insufficient opposition to communist aggression. The editorial's vehemence reflected the depths of loathing Kennedy could expect there. "Dallas is a dangerous place", he told Kennedy, "I wouldn't go there. Don't YOU go there".
Seven weeks earlier, Fulbright had virtually pleaded with the president to skip Dallas, saying that any political gain was not worth the risk.
Senator Fulbright was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Connally warning


Even Governor Connally tried to talk the President out of a stop in Dallas, saying that the people might be "too emotional".
Governor Connally was never asked about this during his testimony.



The Skelton warning


On November 4th, Robert Kennedy received a letter from Byron Skelton, a Democratic Committeeman from Texas, asking that Dallas be dropped from the President's itinerary because "they" would kill him there. Observing the attitude in preparations for the President's trip, he simply felt that it was not safe to go there. Skelton felt so passionately about bypassing Dallas that he flew to Washington to plead his case.
Mr. Skelton was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



Two U.S. Army cryptographic code operators who claimed to have intercepted coded messages about the JFK assassination plan were thrown into mental institutions after attempting to report it.


The Dinkin warning


Private First Class Eugene Dinkin was a cryptographic code operator stationed in Metz, France. On November 4, 1963 he went AWOL from his unit and two days later he appeared in the Press Room of the United Nations in Geneva and told reporters that "they" were plotting against President Kennedy and that "something" would happen in Dallas.
Private Dinkin had a friend mail a letter to Robert Kennedy. The letter warned RFK that an assassination plot was underway and would occur in Texas around Nov. 28, 1963. Dinkin said that the plan was that the murder would be blamed on either a communist or a negro.
His allegation reached the White House on November 29 and went to the Warren Commission in April of 1964.
The Warren Commission took no interest in the matter and omitted any mention of Dinkin from its 26 volumes of evidence.
Dinkin was not called to testify for the Warren Commission.



The Christensen warning


David Christensen was an Air Force sergeant who was stationed at an RAF base in Kirknewton, Scotland. The base had a relationship with the CIA and was used by the CIA as a top-secret listening station. Completely separate from Dinkin and around the same time, he intercepted a communication in late October 1963 that an assassination attempt would be made on Kennedy.
Sgt. Christensen, like Private Dinkin, was summarily “committed to a mental institution.”


A rambling letter Christensen wrote mentions the JFK assassination link he received “six weeks to one month” before the big event. He goes on to name two men ( Forney and Delaughter ) as being instrumental in blocking him from getting the intel to NSA.


An interview was conducted in 1978 by two staffers ( Kenneth Klein and Gary Cornwell ) of the House Select Committee on Assassinations. But this interview was with a Sgt. Stevenson, who was stationed with Christensen, not the source himself. Stevenson discounted the Christensen story.


The HSCA knew about Christensen’s claims but never questioned him personally.


These two warnings are summed up best by Dr. Jerry Kroth, Associate Professor Emeritus, Santa Clara ( Cal. ) University:
"Two code operators, in secret American military installations, quite independently of each other—and both obviously with clearances—discovered chatter, decidedly secret chatter, about the coming assassination of the President of the United States. If taken seriously, it meant a deep conspiracy was afoot involving high level government and military plotters, not little Lee Harvey who was sorting textbooks in the Texas School Book Depository for $1.25 an hour."


Finally, there is one problem for the naysayers: to explain what type of mental illness allows its victim to predict in advance and with any degree of certainty, the time and place where an attempt to assassinate the President of the United States will take place.



The Miami warning


On November 9, 1963, Miami Police informant Willie Somerset recorded a breakfast meeting with his friend Joseph Milteer, who outlined the assassination of President Kennedy. Milteer was taped by Somerset as he spoke of Kennedy's coming visit to Miami on November 18th:


Somerset: "Well, how in the hell do you figure would be the best way to get him?"
Milteer: "From an office building with a high-powered rifle."
Somerset: "Boy if that Kennedy gets shot, we have to know where we are at. Because you know that will be a real shake.."
Milteer: (An investigation) would leave no stone unturned there, no way. They will pick up somebody within hours afterward....just to throw the public off."
Somerset asked when such an assassination would take place, to which Milteer replied:
"It's in the works....there ain't any countdown to it. We have just got to be sitting on go. Countdown, they can move in on you, and on go they can't. Countdown is alright for a slow, prepared operation. But in an emergency situation, you have got to be sitting on go."


Captain Charles Sapp of the Miami Police Intelligence Bureau was concerned with Milteer's remark about the President's assassination being "in the works" to mean that it may take place at a future time and place.
So he notified both the FBI and the Secret Service of the threat. Miami Police provided both agencies with copies of the taped conversation two weeks before the assassination.


Despite the fact that this threat was perceived as significant, both the Miami FBI and Secret Service failed to pass the information on to those responsible for the President's Dallas trip.


In a subsequent meeting following the assassination, Somerset commented that Milteer was a pretty good guesser, to which Milteer replied, "I don't do any guessing".
Milteer also commented that he was in Dallas that day.


The FBI interviewed Milteer after the assassination and he denied making the remarks. He also denied being in Dallas on November 22nd.
Although they had him on tape, they dropped the issue, saying that Milteer was someplace other than Dallas on November 22nd.


Sapp, Somerset and Milteer were never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Mexican warning


On November 14th, an "unnamed subject" who had been arrested in Piedras Negras, Mexico on September 30th for stealing three cars, told the FBI "that he is a member of the Ku Klux Klan and that his sources have told him that a militant group of the National States Rights Party plans to assassinate the president and other high-level officials. He stated that he does not believe that this is planned for the near future, but he does believe the attempt will be made ."
The Secret Service was advised "telephonically" by the FBI of the above information the following day, but according to the Secret Service report, the FBI's Washington D.C. headquarters downplayed the information saying that "the subject was attempting to make a deal with them" on the car theft charges he faced and that "no information was developed that would indicate any danger to the President...during his trip to Dallas".
Hoover was downplaying the threat to assure the Secret Service that no additional steps were needed to protect the President in Dallas.
Two days later, Oswald walked into the FBI office in Dallas and left a note for Hosty, the contents of which were in dispute by people who allegedly read it.



The William Walter telex


Several hours after Oswald left the "Hosty note", Hoover sent out a teletype to all FBI offices notifying them that "information has been received by the bureau that a militant revolutionary group may attempt to assassinate President Kennedy on his proposed trip to Dallas November 22-23 1963. All receiving offices should immmediately contact all CIs (Criminal Informants), PCIs (Potential Criminal Informants), logical Race and Hate groups (KKK, NSRP, Nazis) and determine if any basis for threats. Bureau should be kept advised of all developements by teletype."


In other words, no written reports: notify the Bureau by teletype. If the information was found to be true, it would end up in the hands of Hoover, who would make sure that the Secret Service would not be warned.


William Walter was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Rose Cheramie warning


In the early morning hours of November 20, 1963, a drug addict and prostitute named Rose Cheramie was found lying on the side of the road near Eunice, Louisiana. She had been thrown from a moving car.






Battered and bruised and in a state of near hysteria, she was transported to Louisiana State Hospital in Jackson. She appeared to be under the influence of some drug. State Police Lieutenant Francis Fruge, who investigated the incident, asked her what had happened. She told him that she had been travelling from Florida to Dallas with two Latin men. When he asked her what they were going to do in Dallas, she replied, "pick up some money, pick up my baby and ....kill Kennedy."


At the State Hospital, she repeated her claim to the doctors several times, saying that the President would be murdered in two days and said that she got her information from "word in the underworld". But because of her emotional state at the time, she was thought to be in a drug-induced delirium and her story was not believed.


Fruge, Cheramie and the doctors she spoke to were never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Stevenson warning


Adlai Stevenson had urged a fundamental reconsideration of the trip after right-wing extremists spat on him and struck him with a sign on October 24th in Dallas. This was the second embarrassing attack on a politician from the extremists in Dallas.
Lyndon Johnson and his wife were attacked by a mob of Nixon supporters in 1960, not the least of which was Congressman Bruce Alger, the only Republican congressman from Texas, who held a sign that said, "LBJ sold out to to the Yankee Socialists".
Ambassador Stevenson was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Marcus warning


Stanley Marcus, head of the well-known Neiman Marcus retail company, pleaded with Kennedy not to come to Dallas. Marcus was with Stevenson when the U.N. ambassador was attacked in October.
After Marcus shoved Stevenson into the back seat of the car, the mob started rocking the car side to side. The driver gunned it and almost killed someone in an attempt to get away.
Stanley Marcus was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.



The Brinkley warning


Private citizens echoed these warnings throughout October and November.
Anne Brinkley, wife of newscaster David Brinkley, delivered her warning the evening before the trip to Texas.
Anne Brinkley, wife of NBC News Anchor David Brinkley, wrote to Kennedy's Press Secretary Pierre Salinger, "Don't let him come down here...I think something terrible is going to happen to him ".






Ann Brinkley was never called to give testimony to the Warren Commission.

According to author Gus Russo, about 25,000 threats were reportedly logged during Kennedy's 34 months in office. Most of them made by crackpots, but some by potentially real assassins. In 1976, the Secret Service released a report indicating that its "Security Index" listed one million people as potential threats to President Kennedy at the time of his death.


Lee Harvey Oswald was not listed as one of them.

[Herlock Sholmes]

When they release ''All the files'' . Make sure you get the facts right, dont just assume things .You know how that always make you look .

You were talking about when they released this current batch. I predicted that you would wriggle and I was correct. You will hear in 30 years time still claiming “there’s one last file still hidden in there with the conspirators plan written on it.” Just like those people who predict the end of the world.

[FISHY1118]

You were talking about when they released this current batch. I predicted that you would wriggle and I was correct. You will hear in 30 years time still claiming “there’s one last file still hidden in there with the conspirators plan written on it.” Just like those people who predict the end of the world.

Ill repeat for you once again . When all the files are released !


Have you come with with some fake excuse for the HUMPTY DUMPTY autopsy photos yets ?

[FISHY1118]

VIDEO: Witnesses who were ignored by the Warren Commission and why .


What was the Warren commision conspiracy afraid of ??? Thats right THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!


A video compilation of the witnesses and what they had to say:

https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/the-witnesses.mp4

[Herlock Sholmes]

Explain the this then which you have ignored ,Great,now your saying all that skull , tissue and brain matter exploding out of jfks head all came out , but left his front face and head , and the back of his head in perfect condition as per the two fake autopsy photos ????? yer right .


I SUPPOSE THEY STUCK HIM ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN LIKE HUMPTY DUMTY ????.

How many times do you want me to explain this Fishy. The wounds to Kennedy’s head were on the side. You can see this on the Zapruder film if you look at it with your eyes open and with the conspiracy goggles on. That is cast iron, irrefutable proof that there was no large wound in the back of the head as claimed by those fallible human witnesses. Movie footage isn’t fallible.

The Zapruder film proves the witnesses wrong. It’s black and white. Ask a police officer Fishy “what would you give priority to - witness testimony or film footage.”