JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Fiver]

The best known quote is JFK vowing to break the CIA 'into a thousand pieces.'

It's very popular quite, but no one is giving an actual source showing that JFK ever said it.

[Fiver]

There is no reliable evidence they ever met. Kostikov could not speak English and Oswald's Russian was basic..

So you're saying that Kostikov and the other Russians lied in order to implicate themselves in a Conspiracy to murder JFK?

[cobalt]

It's very popular quite, but no one is giving an actual source showing that JFK ever said it.

It would be interesting therefore to know when it first appeared in the public domain.

So you're saying that Kostikov and the other Russians lied in order to implicate themselves in a Conspiracy to murder JFK?

I haven't found a link to Kostikov confirming that he met Oswald. And less surprisingly, I have never seen a shred of evidence that he oversaw an assassination unit as part of his KGB duties.

Whatever, we are still left with the puzzle of why someone would seek to impersonate Oswald over the telephone. Of all the people who visited the Cuban and Soviet embassies in the few months preceding the JFK assassination, why pick out him?

[Herlock Sholmes]

As ever your posting becomes slightly confusing when you get angry Fishy so I’m having difficulty understanding this one I’m afraid.

The doctors in my post all saw Kennedy at Parkland and they all said that the wound was on the side of his head. So we are in a situation where we have a majority saying back of the head and a minority saying side of the head.

So…if you believe that the majority should take precedence ‘as a rule’ then obviously you would have to be consistent and fair with that rule. What I mean is that you wouldn’t only apply it when it suits you would you Fishy? Of course you wouldn't. So with that in mind you would also side with the majority of witnesses who said that they only heard three shots. And you would also side with the majority of witnesses who believed that the shots came from the direction of Dealey Plaza? And while we’re on the subject of ‘going with the majority’ you would have to accept of course the large majority of witnesses who positively identified Lee Harvey Oswald as the killer of JD Tippit.

Just being fair of course Fishy

Should read - direction of TSBD of course.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The large rear head wound appears to be missing.

[Herlock Sholmes]

And look, still no large rear head wound, and there’s Clint Hill.

Conclusion - he was obviously, provably, categorically mistaken.

[Herlock Sholmes]

And where did Abraham Zapruder himself say that the wound was….oh yeah.

[Fiver]

Maybe your browser is playing up again. Try obscure sites like 'Wikipedia,' 'Politico,' and 'Spartacus Educational,' the latter of which provides most detail on McCloy's conversion to the WC narrative.

Spartacus makes lots of unsourced claims about what McCloy said. Spartacus provides no evidence that McCloy doubted the Single Bullet theory, or thought Oswald was a fake defector, or thought Oswald worked for the CIA, or thought JFK might have been hit from the front, or was told that Oswald had worked for the FBI.

The only sourced quote is an 1967 interview with McCloy. It supports the other members of the Warren Commission and the overall findings.

"There have been a number of suggestions that the Commission, for example, was only motivated by a desire to put - to make things quiet, so as to give comfort to the Administration, or give comfort to the people of the country, that there was nothing vicious about this. Well, that wasn't the attitude that we had at all."

"But you can rely on common sense. And you know that seven men aren't going to get together, of that character, and concoct a conspiracy, with all of the members of the staff we had, with all of the investigative agencies - it would have been a conspiracy of a character so mammoth and so vast that it transcends any - even some of the distorted charges of conspiracy on the part of Oswald."

[Fiver]

I thought I just post "Actual Evidence" as requested by Herlock no matter what source it comes from .

All that you are doing is spamming a site that selectively quotes sources, states opinions as facts, and frequently lies about the evidence.

The fake Autopsy photos = case closed.

So far, neither you, nor anyone else, has provided evidence that the autopsy photos were faked. The photos and x-rays have been repeatedly examined by experts and not one trace of forgery has been found.

[Fiver]

Nope. Gil Jesus’s opinion. His opinion doesn’t count.

Not everything Gil says is opinion - a lot of it is provable lies.

[Fiver]

I dare say that Patrick is struggling with your somewhat condescending logic in that, while you dismiss Knottlab as not adopting the "correct" Zapruder frame....

I dismiss Knott Labs for claiming a frame that is clearly after the bullet struck as the frame where the bullet struck.

[Herlock Sholmes]

So far, neither you, nor anyone else, has provided evidence that the autopsy photos were faked. The photos and x-rays have been repeatedly examined by experts and not one trace of forgery has been found.

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

[Pcdunn]

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

I can't help thinking that the best support for the Warren Commission and the House-Senate investigations being correct is that young Thomas Crook (the alleged shooter in last July's attempt on Mr Trump's life) was not only killed himself, but his body was cremated within 2 weeks, forestalling even an attempt at a Congressional investigation. Whoever was behind this new conspiracy had seen how thorough those things could be.

[FrankO]

I dismiss Knott Labs for claiming a frame that is clearly after the bullet struck as the frame where the bullet struck.

In 222 and 223 Connally is seen with his shoulder line close to horizontal, which at 224 changes slightly and at 225 even more, as he's in the process of turning forward.

[FISHY1118]

We’re down the rabbit hole Fiver. Fallible witnesses are elevated above actual film footage. You couldn’t make it up. And after doing this CT’s have the nerve to act as if they are the ones seeing sense.

The only consolation is that they can be futilely talking about this in a 100 years time but the record will still state that Oswald killed Kennedy and Tippit. That will never change. Fishy said that the conspiracy would be revealed with this release of files….nothing (then he tried wriggling out of it of course). 60 years and the record still states that Oswald was guilty. Next year it will state that Oswald was guilty. And the year after and the year after. 1000’s around the world achieving nothing except defamation.

When they release ''All the files'' . Make sure you get the facts right, dont just assume things .You know how that always make you look .