JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Patrick Differ]

Would recommend reading US News interview of Specter 1966. He makes the admission that the WC based conclusions on probabilities. It is shocking that the guy who came up with the single bullet theory and was a key member of the WC staff seemed to not know what the FBI and WC actually saw in terms of evidence? In 1966 no less.
one conclusion you can make is that the WC was clearly limited by time as were the Parkland Doctors. Specters words.
A President is assassinated and you come up with the excuse you don't want to start WW3 ? Didn't JFK snuff that idea during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Oh we had enough time !! Yet here we are today waiting to review 80000 Assassination documents witheld for over 60 years?
Sure I'm going to trust Specter and the WC where every member hated JFKs guts.. Not a chance, its not done yet.

[scottnapa]

THE MIINOX CAMERA part 3
Several weeks after the assassination, the FBI also contacted Dallas Police property manager H. W. Hill, who complied with their request and made the notation on the property invoice. It is that altered copy that appears in the Warren Commission exhibits.
On January 30, 1964, J. Edgar Hoover sent a memorandum to the Dallas SAC ordering an investigation into the matter of the missing Minox. It was the official position of the bureau that no Minox was recovered from the Paine house.
Yet, there is developed Minox film. undeveloped film, a leather case and chain. The light-meter is a particularly foolish substitution by the FBI. This spy camera designed with the purpose of taking pictures of documents, contents of safe, etc. A Minox light meter is developed for low light use. No flash. this easily clandestine camera.
The picture developed from the Minox camera of Oswald, the standing Marine posing with his rifle in Atsugi Japan easily dismissed this WC & FBI contention that the camera belongs to Micheal Paine. No attempt is made to explain why Mr Paine was taking pictures of LH Oswald in a foreign county in 1959. Hint: Paine wasn't. The Minox camera was owned and used by Oswald. The FBI Minox camera & Minox light meter swticheroo is illustrative of how the Hoover pursues desired outcomes. The HSCA was NOT under the thumb of Hoover, and did a superior job of exposing this lie.

[Fiver]

3) Destruction; where are Sandra O’Conner’s color autopsy photos?:

Do you perhaps mean Saundra Spencer? Her description of the head wound contradicts the descriptions her boss, Robert Knudsen, as well as the descriptions of the Bethesda autopsy doctors and the Parkland doctors.

As to what happened to them, there are plenty of possibilities that don't require an inept Conspiracy. Perhaps they were given to the Kennedy family. Perhaps they weren't released because a color image was considered more shocking than black and white. Perhaps they were just left in a file folder and forgotten.

[Fiver]

FBI also presents a photocopy as an original evidence. The Oswald money order only exists as a photograph copy .

The actual money order was used as evidence, not a photocopy of it. Phtotos were taken of the money order so it could be included in the printed report.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Cole, I now hand you an item consisting of a U.S. postal money order in the amount of $21.45, payable to Klein's Sporting Goods, from "A. Hidell, P.O. Box 2915, Dallas, Texas." For the record I will state that this money order was included with the purchase order in Exhibit 773 which has just been identified, and was intended and used as payment for the weapon shipped in response to the purchase order, 773. I ask you, Mr. Cole, whether you have examined this money order for the purpose of determining whether it was prepared by the author of the standards?
Mr. COLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. What was your conclusion, Mr. Cole?
Mr. COLE. It is my conclusion that the handwriting on this money order is in the hand of the person who executed the standard writing.
Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Chairman, may I have this money order admitted as 788?
Representative FORD. It may be admitted.
(The document was marked as Commission Exhibit No. 788, and was received in evidence.)
Mr. EISENBERG. Have you prepared a photograph of that Exhibit 788, the money order?
Mr. COLE. Yes; I have.
Mr. EISENBERG. And you have produced that photograph for me just now, Mr. Cole?
Mr. COLE. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. Was this prepared by you or under your supervision?
Mr. COLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG. Is it an accurate photograph of 788?
Mr. COLE. It is.
Mr. EISENBERG. May this be admitted as 789, Mr. Chairman?
Representative FORD. It may be admitted.

Mr. EISENBERG. Mr. Cadigan, I now hand you Commission Exhibit No. 788, and ask you if you have examined that exhibit?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes; I have.
Mr. EISENBERG. For the record, that is the money order which was included with the purchase order to Klein's. Have you prepared a photograph of that exhibit, Mr. Cadigan?
Mr. CADIGAN. I have.
Mr. EISENBERG. That will be Cadigan Exhibit No. 11.
(The document referred to was marked Cadigan Exhibit No. 11.)
Mr. EISENBERG. And this was taken by you or under your supervision?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. And is it an accurate photograph of the money order, Exhibit No. 788?
Mr. CADIGAN. It is.
Mr. EISENBERG. Did you compare Exhibit No. 788 with the standards to determine whether Exhibit No. 788 had been written by Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. CADIGAN. Yes.
Mr. EISENBERG. What was your conclusion?
Mr. CADIGAN. That the postal money order, Cadigan Exhibit No. 11, had been prepared by Lee Harvey Oswald.
Mr. EISENBERG. The postal money order is Commission Exhibit No. 788 and your picture is Cadigan Exhibit No. 11, is that correct?
Mr. CADIGAN. That is correct.

Mr. KLEIN - At this time would you please be seated, Mr McNally. I would now direct your attention to exhibit JFK F-504, which is a microfilm reproduction of an order form to Klein's Sporting Goods Co. for a rifle, plus the envelope in which the order form was sent; and JFK F-509, which is a money order made out to Klein's Sporting Goods Co., both of which documents have the name Hidell on them.
Mr. MCNALLY - I have both of them.
Mr. KLEIN - JFK F-504 and F-509; do you recognize those documents?
Mr. MCNALLY - I do.
Mr. KLEIN - Did the entire panel have an opportunity to examine those documents?
Mr. MCNALLY - They did.
Mr. KLEIN - Did the panel reach a conclusion with respect to those documents?
Mr. MCNALLY - They did.
Mr. KLEIN - What was that conclusion?
Mr. MCNALLY - That JFK exhibit F-504 and F-509 were written by the same person, again with the caveat. JFK exhibit F-504 is a photo reproduction of a microfilm.
Mr. KLEIN - The document, which is marked F-509, the money order, is an original document; is it not?
Mr. MCNALLY - It was; yes.
Mr. KLEIN - And your conclusion is they were written by the same person who wrote the other documents?
Mr. MCNALLY - That is right.

[scottnapa]

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The Dallas Times Herald article said "Dr. Perry added, "It is conceivable it was one wound, but there was no way for me to tell. It did however appear to be the entrance wound at the front of the throat." The article makes it clear that the two wounds that might be from the same bullet are "Wounds in the lower front portion of the neck and the right rear side of the head."

Why would the FBI, or anyone else, for that matter, insert the idea that the head wound and the neck wound were from the same bullet?

[/QUOTE
"Neck Wounds Bring Death to President"
Wounds in the lower front portion of the neck and right rear side of the head ended the life of President John F. Kennedy, say doctors at Parkland Hospital. Whether there were one or two wounds was not decided. The front neck hole was described as an entrance wound. The wound at the back of the head, while the principal one, was either an exit or gangential entrance wound. A doctor admitted that it was possible there was only one wound. (A lie inserted by her editor as demanded by the FBI>

Connie Kritzberg wrote SECRETS from the Sixth Floor Window in 1994.
Later Connie and a photographer. took a walking tour of downtown Dallas and commenting on the sullen quiet building and citizens in shock. The published story is titled:City in Shock In the process of this walk, Connie and the photographer notice a red painted C L O S E D sign on a nightclub door, wThe letters were written quickly and the sign posted but the paint is wet and drips when the sign is pasted on the door, The dripping blood red paint sign seemed worthy of a picture. They did not realized that they were outside the Carousel Club--why would they care? Oswald was alive.
On Sunday the editor called Connie at home. at 1:30 . Her editor asked her "Do you remember where you were last night? The FBI wants to know if you were at the Carousel Club?
WHAT? How and why are the FBI interested in the Carousel club? Connie is at his club when Ruby is at the press conference correcting Wade about FPCC
Where mood piece describing how downtown is empty city and sullen

Why would the FBI ...? You ask? It is rather charming that you are looking for reasons why the FBI can't get "conspiracy" right.
This is November 22nd. I don't understand your concerns that the FBI is thinking about an autopsy at this time. They want the wounds from the back.
The FBI is very active on day one, The FBI doesn't know what it doesn't know. They do know whatever Hoover wants he gets.

This manipulating the press, does it happen often? We do not know.
Certainly Hoover has power over any public figure, given his ability to damage a person. Example, Roosevelt wanted the OSS to carry on after WWII.
Hoover had many articles published with headlines like American Does't Need A Gestapo

Consider the Minox Camera, isn't "logical" either. Light Meter, HA.
It suits Hoover to put as much "blame " on the Dallas Police.

and as for this ongoing question, what the fudge kind of conspiracy is this?
You ask this question as if there are only two options: Lee Oswald is lone communist did it by his lonesome Or is a group as big as a the Barnum & Bailey Circus.

This exaggeration to make a point is very DVP of you. There are times I think your are him.

[FISHY1118]

In a normal criminal trial, the prosecution would be required to establish an item as evidence BEFORE a judge would allow it to be submitted as an exhibit.
Before a chain of possession could be established, the item would have to be identified by the first witness who came in contact with it in order to establish its relevance to the case. After such identification, the prosecution would then ask the court to accept the evidence as an exhibit.


But in this case, although the Warren Commission's agenda was to present the evidence in such a way that Oswald "would have been convicted at trial", it did not follow normal judicial protocol.
Instead, it accepted items as exhibits without so much as an identification from the person who found them. This could not have been an oversight, because they did this time and time again.


Among those items which were accepted WITHOUT identification from the people who found them were:

Commission Exhibit 139 - the C2766 rifle was never identified by the person who found it ( Dallas Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone ) as the rifle he found on the sixth floor.

Commission Exhibit 162 - the "tannish grey" jacket found under a car in a parking lot a block from the Tippit murder scene was never identified by the person who reported it found ( Off. J.T. Griffin ) as the jacket he reported.

Commission Exhibit 399 - the alleged "stretcher bullet" was never identified by the person who found it ( Darrell Tomlinson ) as the bullet he found.

Commission Exhibits 543, 544 and 545 - the three 6.5 rifle shells were never identified by the person who found them ( Dallas Deputy Luke Mooney ) as the shells he found on the sixth floor.

Commission Exhibit 573 - the "Walker Bullet" was never identified by the person who found it ( B.G. Norvell ) as the bullet he found.

Commission Exhibit 594 - the four shells found at the Tippit murder scene were never identified by the witnesses who found them ( Domingo Benavides and Barbara and Virginia Davis ) as the shells they found.

All of these items were accepted by the Warren Commission as Exhibits without any positive identifcation from the people who found them.
Had this case gone to criminal trial, without the positive identifcation from the people who found them, none of these items would have been admitted as evidence.





But im sure all this was presented at Oswalds ''MOCK TRIAL'' ???? You know the one where he was found guilty of JFKs and Officer Tippets murder.!!!!!