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  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    If only they were ‘your’ replies Fishy.
    So now its not okay to source information from others as well as my own 100s of reply on this topic.

    You've done the same throughout herlock . Stop whinging and stay on topic with the evidence.

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    • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

      I haven’t accused a single Parkland doctor of lying. So you invented that.

      And what about the Parkland doctors that didn’t place the wound in the back of the head? And what about the main doctor who admitted that they could easily have been mistaken.

      You have no answers I’m afraid Fishy. All that you can do is to keep cutting and pasting the words of other conspiracy theorists who keep repeating the same nonsense.

      Let me tell you what proper evidence is Fishy. Evidence that stands up in court. Ask any legal person what a Judge and Jury take notice of…

      On your side….some people in Dealey Plaza who saw/heard shots and were trying to save their own lives. A split second gunshot.

      Plus….a few largely inexperienced doctors….in a traumatic situation, in a situation when they were, admitted by themselves, totally focused on the throat and chest, many of whom weren’t near to the head, in a situation where the LOCATION OF THE ALLEGED WOUND WASN'T VISIBLE….and with a wound to the side of Kennedy’s head running blood to the base of his head.

      Against…three pathologists specifically examining that wound…photographs confirming the wound…x-rays confirming that wound…a film showing a wound to the side of Kennedy’s head and definitely not the back…14 more pathologists who examined and confirmed the 3 pathologists work…the numerous independent experts who examined the photographs and x-rays in minute scientific detail and found absolutely no evidence of tampering.

      Dream on…in court this is an open and shut case. Conspiracy theorists genuinely should be embarrassed for even entertaining this kind of thing for a second.
      According to you they lied , were mistaken, were idiots , or never existed.

      Which is it ?.

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      • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

        According to you they lied , were mistaken, were idiots , or never existed.

        Which is it ?.
        Why do you keep asking this question as if I’m trying to avoid answering. I’ve told you my thoughts a hundred times but ok…if you somehow managed to miss them I’ll go for my 101st attempt.

        I believe that the Doctors at Parkland who thought that there was a wound in the back of Kennedy’s head were mistaken. Is that ok Fishy or will I have to go to number 102?

        Now will you answer one?

        What about those at Parkland who didn’t think that there was a wound to the back of Kennedy’s head?

        According to you they lied, we’re mistaken, we’re idiots, or never existed.

        Which is it?

        Regards

        Sir Herlock Sholmes.

        “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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        • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

          So now its not okay to source information from others as well as my own 100s of reply on this topic.

          You've done the same throughout herlock . Stop whinging and stay on topic with the evidence.
          I source material as part of a post and add my own thoughts and interpretations.

          Fiver does the same.

          You don’t.

          You just cut and paste the work of others. There is never any content that actually comes from you apart from one line gloating comments.

          It’s about our own personal content (which is the reason for a discussion forum). Or in your case, the absence of it.
          Regards

          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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          • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
            In this case, there is no conflict but rather a deception: Col. Finck's testimony on the wrist wound was never included in the Report. You wouldn't even know it existed if you hadn't read the 26 volumes ( which none of them have read ).
            How can you include a page from the Warren Commission Report and still claim that that page wasn't included in the Warren Commission Report?

            And why are you assuming Dr Finck is right about the number of fragments taken from Connally's wrist, but lying about everything else?

            "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

            "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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            • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
              In other examples, the Report flat out lied. Like when it said that Johnny Calvin Brewer saw Oswald pull a revolver from his waistband ( pg. 179 ), when Brewer testified that he did not ( 7 H 6 ).;
              Brewer and two other patrons testified that they saw the revolver in Oswald's hand. How do you think it got there - magic?



              "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

              "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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              • Originally posted by cobalt View Post
                If you took the time to read my response you would not need to post the same question again. I made it clear that IMO the killing of Tippit was not premeditated. The word 'unnecessary' is your own imagined CT theory of the killing, not mine. It was clearly very necessary to kill Tippit- not just shoot him- in someone's opinion that afternoon at that time.
                So why do you feel it was necessary for anyone other than LHO to kill JD Tippit?

                "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

                "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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                • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                  Why do you keep asking this question as if I’m trying to avoid answering. I’ve told you my thoughts a hundred times but ok…if you somehow managed to miss them I’ll go for my 101st attempt.

                  I believe that the Doctors at Parkland who thought that there was a wound in the back of Kennedy’s head were mistaken. Is that ok Fishy or will I have to go to number 102?

                  Now will you answer one?

                  What about those at Parkland who didn’t think that there was a wound to the back of Kennedy’s head?

                  According to you they lied, we’re mistaken, we’re idiots, or never existed.

                  Which is it?
                  There you have it , you see the problem now dont you ,yet you cant even admit that much . Everywhere you look ,the Magic Bullet, the Fake Autopsy photos , the Mauser rifle, the Tippet killing slugs , the 4th kill shot bullet , the Grassy knoll etc etc what do the all have in common .? They all contradict and show the lies and inconsistancies of the Bogus Warren commission conspiracy which you fell for .

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                  • Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                    How can you include a page from the Warren Commission Report and still claim that that page wasn't included in the Warren Commission Report?

                    And why are you assuming Dr Finck is right about the number of fragments taken from Connally's wrist, but lying about everything else?
                    Read the post again, you missed the point It was making .

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                    • Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                      Isn't this the same Dr Humes that you accuse of lying about JFK's head and neck wounds? But now he's an expert on ballistics and on wounds he only saw in photos?


                      As opposed to this 'Ballistic'' Expert.

                      The "ballistics expert" who invented the Single bullet theory was a young lawyer, Arlen Specter.

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                      • Dallas Police Chief Curry believed one shot came from the front







                        [13 secs ]


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                        • A list of the crazy coincidences that needed to happen for Oswald to have done the shooting per the Lone Nut theory?

                          [FOR THE WHY WOULD HE WHY WOULDNT HE POSTERS ,as i know how much they like it ]



                          .. Maybe Frazier didn't know the difference between 2 feet and 3 feet?" or "Maybe Connally didn't realise he'd been shot till a few seconds later?"



                          Oswald was really lucky that Buell Wesley Frazier was able to give him those lifts at such short notice, otherwise he'd have had to carry his rifle to work on the bus.

                          Oswald was really lucky that the Post Office worker who handled the rifle delivery to his PO Box didn't know the rules about not accepting deliveries to people with different names to specific PO Boxes... (and also lucky that the worker who let him pick the rifle up was unaware of that rule as well...

                          Ordering a rifle using an assumed name for the crime that you hope to use to get your real name into the history books. Sounds like a foolproof plan right there.

                          12:25 PM, when the limo is scheduled to pass, LHO is on the second floor. Very clever. How better to become a big somebody and get into the history books than being five floors away from your snipers nest and your weapon at the precise time your target is scheduled to pass?

                          12:30 PM, LHO shoots from the sixth floor window.

                          12:32 PM, LHO seen again on the second floor, not winded or sweating. What an actor. Excuse me, that should be "actor/athlete!"

                          Y Oswald was VERY lucky that the motorcade was running late since he left it to the last second to go charging up those stairs.

                          He was a hell of an athlete... he beat Victoria Adams down that staircase and she two floors head start and no evidence to hide.

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                          • Tomlinson's WC testimony starts on page 128 of Volume 6. He's asked about the elevators, the stretchers and even of the construction of the stretchers. But he's never shown CE 399 and asked to identify it as the bullet he found. Why not ?





                            And what of the others who handled the stretcher bullet ?

                            Why wasn't O.P. Wright ever called to give testimony ?

                            Why wasn't SS agent Richard Johnson ever called to give testimony ?

                            SS Chief James Rowley gave almost 40 pages of testimony.

                            Why wasn't he shown CE 399 and asked to identify it as the bullet he handled ?


                            More lies and coverups from the phoney Warren Commision Conspiracy group



                            These people were lawyers and prosecutors. In addition, they pre-interviewed witnesses and knew exactly what the witnesses were going to say in advance of their testimony. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They avoided asking them to identify the bullet because they knew they wouldn't. Same goes for not calling Wright and Johnsen. If it was an innocent mistake, they would have called them back to get their sworn testimony on the record. Several witnesses made more than one appearance. I believe that it's much more likely that they tried to pull a fast one, but some junior staffer realized they hadn't established a chain-of-possession and made it known.

                            It was declared to be the "stretcher bullet" by Melvin Eisenberg, during his questioning of Robert Frazier on page 428 of Volume III :

                            "Mr. Frazier, I now hand you Commission Exhibit 399, which, for the record, is a bullet, and also for the record, it is a bullet that was found in the Parkland Hospital following the assassination."

                            Since when does legal counsel get to determine what is evidence by proclamation ?

                            Who testified that this bullet was found at Parkland Hospital ? Who identified it ?

                            No one. Eisenberg's proclamation that this was the bullet found in Parkland Hospital was not based on any document or testimony.

                            This bullet has no certifiable chain-of-possession prior to its being in the possession of FBI agent Elmer Todd.

                            And for that reason, if I were Oswald's lawyer, I would have gotten this "evidence" thrown out at trial.

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                            • MORE COVERUPS FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION CONSPIRACY GROUP




                              Evidence of Deception Regarding President Kennedy's Back Wound






                              "During the autopsy at Bethesda Naval Hospital another bullet hole was observed at the base of the back of President Kennedy's neck slightly to the right of his spine which provides further enlightenment as to the source of the shots. The hole was located approximately 5 1/2 inches ( 14 centimeters ) from the tip of the right shoulder joint and approximately the same distance below the tip of the right mastoid process, the bony point immediately behind the right ear." ( Report pgs. 88-89 )



                              No piece of evidence in this case screams "deception" louder than the President's non-fatal back wound. That deception mainly concerned the destruction of Dr. Humes' original autopsy notes and then re-writing of his autopsy report which misrepresented of the location of the wound. But the autopsy photographs indicate that the prosectors were quite clever in the manner of how they handled the body when taking measurements.


                              Deceptive measurements

                              Using the mastoid process and the acromion as measuring points was brilliant from a deception standpoint. The mastoid process is the bony structure behind the ear and by being part of the head, is easily moved as the head moves.

                              The Acromion is top outer edge of the shoulder blade and is also easily moved by moving the shoulder up and down.






                              Dr. Cyril Wecht, Director of the Institute of Forensic Sciences at Duquesne University School of Law and Chief Forensic Pathologist of Allegheny County ( PA ) wrote in a letter dated February 10, 1967 :

                              "the acromion and/or the mastoid process are not customarily or routinely used by forensic pathologists as landmarks in pinpointing the location of bullet wounds on the body. Therefore, on must ask why these points were used by the pathologists who performed the autopsy on President Kennedy." ( Accessories After the Fact, Sylvia Meagher, 1967, pg. 141 )

                              Dr. Wecht's point is not only well taken, it's a proven fact.

                              When we look at Oswald's autopsy ( CE 1981 ), also a murder that involved a gunshot wound to the torso, we see that the measurements were taken from the top of the head and the midline of the body.






                              Using the mastoid process and the Acromion as landmarks is ridiculous because neither one is stationary and both can be moved easily to produce whatever measurement is required.

                              And the evidence indicates that that's exactly what they did.


                              Forcing the head backward

                              The below graphic shows how the distance between a fixed location ( bullet hole B ) and the mastoid process ( A ) is shortened when the head is tilted backward.








                              If measurements are taken while the head is tilted backwards, not only is the distance going to be shorter than it really is, when the head is returned to its normal position, the "B" position will move up closer to the reference point "A".

                              This is what they did to President Kennedy. They jerked his head all the way back to take measurements and one of the autopsy photos shows the creases in his neck as a result of the head's forced position.








                              By using these false measurements in the 1964 drawings done by Harold Rydberg, it created the fallacy that the wound was in the base of the President's neck rather than below the top of his shoulders, as seen in the autopsy photo.








                              It also substantiated Humes' re-written autopsy report that located the wound was in the "base of the right side of the neck". ( 16 H 983 )

                              This was not supported by the autopsy photos, the autopsy face sheet, the death certificate, the clothes of the President or the testimony of witnesses.


                              Exposing the Deception

                              Any deception regarding the location of the President's back wound begins and ends with Commander Humes.

                              Dr. J. Thornton Boswell assisted Humes in the autopsy and on his face sheet is the correct location of the back wound.








                              I say correct because the prosectors did not find out about a bullet wound in the throat until Saturday morning, long after the body had left the morgue.


                              In his testimony, Dr. Humes admitted that he had not spoken with Dr. Perry about the tracheotomy until Saturday morning and that's when he found out about the wound in the throat.

                              Humes testified that, "he had done a tracheotomy and as a point to perform his tracheotomy he used a wound which he interpreted as a missile wound in the low neck, as the point through which ot make his tracheotomy incision."

                              Mr. SPECTER. When did you have that conversation with him, Dr. Humes ?
                              Commander HUMES. I had that conversation with him early on Saturday morning, sir.
                              Mr. SPECTER. On Saturday morning November 23d ?
                              Commander HUMES. That is correct, sir. ( 2 H 362 )


                              Humes never saw the wound in the front of the throat. He assumed it was a tracheotomy and never examined it. By the time he found out it was a tracheotomy made through a bullet wound, the body was gone and there was no chance of examining it.


                              The document problem

                              The location of the back wound on Dr. Boswell's original face sheet, showing the back wound to be below the top of the shoulders, is corroborated by other evidence.

                              President Kennedy's personal physician, Dr. George Burkley's death certificate describes the location of the wound at "about the level of the third thoracic vertebra". ( red dot )






                              The report of the two FBI agents present during the autopsy, James Sibert and Frank O'Neill, reported that "Dr. Humes located an opening which appeared to be a bullet hole which was below the shoulders and two inches to the right of the midline of the spinal column." ( ARRB MD 44, pg. 5 )


                              The clothing problem
                              More corroboration of a bullet hole below the top of the shoulders comes from the physical evidence provided by Kennedy's shirt and jacket. Both show bullet holes well below the top of the shoulders.






                              It becomes more apparent when you look at the President's shirt from the front. It becomes obvious that the bullet hole is well below the top of the shoulders and well below the knot of the tie.






                              In his own testimony to the Warren Commission, Dr. Humes testified that the holes in the President's coat and shirt were 6 inches below the top of the collar. ( 2 H 365 )

                              The FBI also measured the holes in the back of the President's shirt and coat and found that the hole in the coat was 5 3/8" below the collar and the hole in the shirt was 5 3/4" below the top of the collar. It reasoned that the 3/8" difference was due to the shirt collar "sticking up above the coat about a half an inch." ( 5 H 60 )

                              This was in conflict with Humes' autopsy report that located the "neck" wound only 5 1/2 inches ( 14 cm ) below the tip of the right mastoid process. ( 16 H 980 )






                              As anyone can see, the mastoid process is well ABOVE the top of the collar, meaning that any measurement below the top of the collar using the mastoid as a reference point should be greater than the measurement to the top of the collar.

                              Unless, of course, you jerk the head backwards to take your measurements. Which is what they did.

                              Humes tried to explain the discrepancy by saying the Kennedy was waving to the crowd and this waving process caused the coat and shirt to rise up. ( 2 H 366 )

                              He used Commission Exhibit 396 to prove his point. But CE 396 shows the President with his elbow resting on the body of the car and his hand raised.





                              Here's JFK with his arm up on the car. As you can see, his shirt and coat are certainly not "bunched up" enough to align the holes in the shirt and coat with the hole in the back.






                              Not only was the hole in the President's back too low to have exited just below his Adam's apple, the path of the bullet that caused it was estimated at 45-60 degrees DOWNWARD. ( ARRB MD 44, pg. 5 )

                              Researcher Paul Lee shows exactly how ridiculous the amount of "bunching up" the jacket and shirt had to do in order for the bullet holes to line up.






                              In addition, the FBI's photos of the front of the President's shirt deliberately hid the fact that the bullet hole was too low to make the throat wound by making sure the shirt was closed enough so the hole wouldn't show from the front.






                              The FBI's photographs of the shirt and coat were omitted from the Warren Commission exhibits.

                              And there was another problem for the Commission : the bullet that made the holes in that clothing never transited the body.


                              Lack of a track
                              It is a complete and utter impossibility for a bullet to travel through a human body and not leave a bullet track in its wake.

                              In this case, the prosectors tried to probe the back wound and could not.

                              Dr. Humes testified to the Commission that, "attempts to probe in the vicinity of this wound were unsuccessful without fear of making a false passage." ( 2 H 361 )

                              He further testified that, "we were unable, however, to take probes and have them satisfactorily fall through any definite path at this point." ( ibid. )

                              In his deposition to the ARRB, Col. Pierre Finck was asked about probing the back wound:

                              Q: Did you insert a probe into the wound in the back ?

                              A: From what I remember, we tried at the time. It was unsuccessful. ( ARRB deposition of Pierre A. Finck, MD, 5.24.96, pg. 92 )


                              When questioned about the probing, Dr. J. Thornton Boswell told the ARRB that it went in a "very short distance. Three inches about." ( ARRB depsoition of Dr. J. Thornton Boswell, 2.26.96, pg. 119 )

                              In their 11/26/63 report on the autopsy, FBI agents Sibert and O'Neill said that the back wound was "probed by Dr. Humes with the finger" and that "further probing determined that the distance travelled by this missile was a short distance inasmuch as the end of the opening could be felt with the finger." ( ARRB MD 44, pg. 5 )

                              Their report went on to say that, "no bullet could be found in the back" and that inspection revealed there was "no point of exit". ( ibid. )

                              This evidence indicates that an attempt was made to probe the back wound that and attempt revealed that the bullet that caused it penetrated only a short distance, so short that its end could be felt with the fingertip.

                              This unsuccessful probing proves that the bullet did not transit the body and that there was no connection between the back wound and the wound in the President's throat.

                              Conclusion
                              On page 2 of the FBI's Supplemental Report dated January 13, 1964, the report reads, "there was a small hole in the back of his shirt and coat approximately six inches below the collar."

                              The Report goes on, "the bullet that entered his back had penetrated to a distance of less than a finger length."

                              Secret Service Agent Clint Hill testified that he saw the back wound at Bethesda after the autopsy was completed, as the morticians were preparing it to be placed in the casket. He described its location as, "about 6 inches below the neckline to the right hand side of the spinal column." ( 2 H 143 )

                              Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett was on the running board of the followup car and reported that he saw a "shot hit the President about 4 inches down from the right shoulder". ( 18 H 760 )

                              None of the physical evidence and none of the witnesses' descriptions corroborate a wound at the base of the neck.

                              None.

                              But that didn't stop the House Select Committee on Assassinations from publishing a drawing of JFK depicting his position as the bullet transited his body. It was a most ridiculous rendering, showing Kennedy leaning forward and the bullet entering his back above the shoulder at the level of the 7th cervical vertebra.






                              The truth is that the witnesses were correct that the wound was below the top of the shoulders. The autopsy photo shows the wound below the top of the shoulder. The death certificate indicates the wound was below the top of the shoulder. The autopsy face sheet shows that the wound was below the top of the shoulder.

                              All of this evidence is correct. The wound was below the top of the shoulder.

                              Humes had been confused because there were no bullets in the body and the back wound had not penetrated very far. The FBI called their office and found out a bullet had been found on a stretcher in Parkland Hospital. Humes assumed that that was the bullet that had made the wound in the back and had fallen out during cardiac massage.

                              I suggest that this is what was in his original autopsy notes, which he destroyed.

                              The deception began on Saturday morning, when Dr. Humes spoke to Dr. Perry on the phone and found out that there had been a bullet wound in the throat, a wound that he missed.

                              Dr. Humes gleaned from Dr. Perry any and all information regarding Dr. Perry's observations of the throat wound and the damage to the surrounding area, including the trachea.

                              "Dr. Humes concluded that the missile that entered the upper back had traversed the body and exited in the anterior portion of the neck although he had not observed...any such hole during the examination of the body." ( 7 HSCA 16 )

                              How is that even possible ? How on earth can anyone conclude that a wound is a wound of exit if they've never even seen it ? How can you tell the direction of the bullet if you never saw the exit wound ?

                              You can't. It's all an assumption.

                              And it was an assumption that was not supported by the President's clothing, the witness observations and the documentation presented prior to Dr. Perry telling him of a bullet wound in the throat.

                              All of the evidence prior to that Saturday morning phone call to Dr. Perry is correct.

                              All of the evidence obtained after that is false.
                              ​​​

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                              • Head Games --- The deliberate and fraudulent coverup of President Kennedy's head wound -- Conclusion

                                ​PROOF OF THE FAKE AUTOPY PHOTOS .



                                The wound test

                                "This particular skull blew out the right side in a manner very similar to the wounds of the President..." ( Testimony of Alfred Olivier, 5 H 89 )


                                More lies. The right side of the test skull referred to looked nothing like JFK's lateral xray.



                                XrayLateral-comparison.jpg


                                It looked nothing like the right side of JFK's head in the autopsy photos.





                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...comparison.png

                                Dr. Olivier blamed this difference on not having the "limiting scalp" holding the bone in place or the test. ( ibid. ) But if one or any of the controls in an experiment is faulty ( i.e. the gelatin/goat skin couldn't hold the bone in place ), the experiment itself becomes worthless and proves nothing.

                                Dr. Olivier replicated the scalp by an elaborate method of coating the skull with gelatin and trimming it down to the thickness of the tissues overlying the skull. He then covered it with a goat skin to replicate the scalp. ( 5 H 88 )

                                This was the way they tested damage on skulls.


                                Commission Exhibit 860 is the skull is the same skull shown in Exhibit CE 861, albeit with the goat skin attached. It appears that the whole side of the skull was blown out without any damage to the goat skin.





                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...vs-no-skin.jpg


                                It also appears that the remaining cavity caused by the loss of skull bone is easily detected by the naked eye.




                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl..._Vol17_853.jpg


                                This shows that the gelatin/goat skin combination was "limiting" enough to keep the goat skin on the skull and without any visual damage to the skin. The test also indicates that there was less fragmentation of the skull than is shown in the xray. In the xray, there is massive fragmentation of the rear and the top of the skull.


                                If the test proved anything, it proved that a shot hitting the skull from behind inflicted a wound quite different from the wound showed in the xrays and photographs. There was no little flap of skull opened on the right side of the head as there was in the autopsy photo. Instead, the whole right side of the skull was blown off. And the fragmentation of the skull was different from that of the xray.


                                But the Commission's presentation of the xrays as evidence had its own problems.



                                The Xray problems


                                Among the problems critics had with the xrays was that missing skull fragments show up in the lateral xray even though they arrived at Bethesda after the skull xrays had been taken.

                                It's documented that the skull fragments arrived "late during the autopsy", yet the lateral xray, taken before the autopsy began, shows the missing bone intact.

                                Another problem was that the lateral xray showed a massive wound in the front of the skull above the right eye, not seen on any of the autopsy photos.





                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...rayLateral.jpg




                                The Warren Commission never published the autopsy photographs and Xrays, so the task of authenticating them fell on the House Select Committee on Assassinations.

                                Normally, you would think, that the best person to authenticate the Xrays would have been the person responsible for taking them.

                                But we're talking about the United States Government here. So what they did was to go to an outside source who compared the autopsy Xrays to Xrays in Kennedy's medical history and determined that, yes, the Xrays were of the same person. And that person was John F. Kennedy.

                                The man who took them at the autopsy, Jerrol Custer, was never asked to authenticate the xrays in evidence as the ones he took. And there's a reason for that:




                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl.../11/custer.mp4




                                Another strange tactic used by the HSCA was to publish the skull xrays with the teeth cropped out.




                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...2/11/xrays.jpg




                                The HSCA published Xrays of the teeth, but separately from the skull Xrays. The expert who identified the teeth was Dr. Lowell Levine a forensic odontologist experienced in the identification of victims of unnatural death. ( 7 HSCA 39 )

                                His method involved comparing dental and sinus Xrays of the President taken between 1960 and 1962 and obtained from the Kennedy Library to those taken at the autopsy.

                                The problem I have with it is that the Committee only published photos of the dental and sinus Xrays received from the Kennedy Library.




                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...CA_Vol7_62.jpg




                                It did not publish photos of the autopsy Xrays nor did it show any side-by-side comparisons of the two.

                                As you can imagine, this lack of transparency creates more questions then it answers.

                                If this was an act of deception by the HSCA, it didn't end there.





                                The HSCA lies

                                Among the lies that the House Select Committee withheld from the public was that the autopsy doctors agreed with the Dallas doctors that there was a massive wound at the rear of the President's head. Not only did the Committee not publish the autopsy doctors' location of the head wound, they did not allow the Parkland doctors to view the autopsy photographs and x-rays.




                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...lar_groden.mp4


                                This suppression and omission of evidence is at the least troubling, at the most conspiratorial proof of a coverup.

                                The Committee also offered several drawings from professional medical artist Ida Dox, including one that depicted the President's head being shot from behind with the top of his head blowing off and an exit in the front of his skull.





                                https://gil-jesus.com/wp-content/upl...22/10/dox2.jpg



                                No witness who saw the President's head wound ever described the head wound as depicted in this drawing.

                                The autopsy photographs and xrays do not support any bone loss at the top of the head.

                                The Committee never went after descrepancies in the official record, like Dr. Humes' description of an entry wound in the back of the neck and the same wound being described in the Sibert/O'Neill report as being located "below the top of the shoulders". ( ARRB, MD 44, pg. 5 ) It heard from Navy photographer Robert Knudsen, ( ARRB MD 135 ) but never asked him if there had been different versions of autopsy photographs.


                                It also heard from autopsy witnesses Boyers, Riebe and Custer. It interviewed Paul O'Connor, James Curtis Jenkins and mortician Tom Robinson. In spite of the accounts of all these witnesses, the Committee concluded that there was no evidence that President Kennedy had been shot from the front.


                                In short, the HSCA avoided investigating the crime properly. Whether or not this was by design is not clear, but for all its work and time spent, it was an effort in futility.



                                Conclusion

                                These many years later, the Crime of the 20th Century has still not been satisfactorily closed. The Warren Commission's investigation of the crime began with a forgone conclusion and as such, was actually not an investigation at all but a gathering of evidence to prove one individual was guilty.


                                In order to achieve that narrative, it had to ignore witnesses who had evidence to the contrary. It had to falsely report what witnesses said and physical evidence that proved the suspect was innocent simply vanished into thin air.


                                The House Select Committee's investigation was no more a success in finding the truth. Like the Warren Commission, it too started with a forgone conclusion that organized crime was behind the assassination. Sadly, it was less an investigation than it was a stage show.


                                In the end, it concluded that the President was probably killed as a result of a conspiracy that involved Oswald. But it failed to name his co-conspirators and to bring indictments against them.


                                The release of records by the Assassination Records Review Board in the 1990s revealed that, like the Warren Commission, the HSCA suppressed testimony and failed to pursue evidence that was presented to it.


                                Evidence from witnesses like James Chaney, one of the Dallas motorcycle officers who flanked the right rear of the Presidential limousine. In an interview right after the assassination, he said that he saw the President struck "in the face".





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                                Neither the Warren Commission nor the House Select Committee ever called James Chaney.


                                Perhaps the most damaging testimony to the authenticity of the autopsy photos was that of Saundra Kay Spencer, the Naval Photographic Center technician who developed the autopsy photos.


                                She told the ARRB that the autopsy photos in the National Archives were not the autopsy photos she processed. She testified that the images in the photos were not the same, the backgrounds were different, there were no photos of the autopsists taking measurements and the paper used for the Archives' photos is not the same paper she used at NPC in 1963. ( ARRB testimony of Saundra Kay Spencer, 6-5-97 )


                                Equally interesting was the revelation by Xray tech Jerrol Custer that his superior, Dr. John Ebersol told him that a "bust" was being prepared of JFK. ( ARRB testimony of Jerrol Custer, 10.28.97, pg. 144 )

                                Was this "bust" superimposed on the real autopsy photo to create the "Superior" photos ?





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                                There's an old saying that, "the government cannot investigate itself". Two Federal "investigations" into the assassination of President Kennedy have produced no level of satisfactory closure.


                                There were many tragedies that came from this assassination. The President was dead and his family destroyed. His wife was a widow and his kids fatherless. His brother never recovered from his loss.

                                There was the similar tragedy of the Oswald family, leaving Marina Oswald a widow and her kids growing up in someone else's house. And the stigma of being related to a man who history says killed the President of the United States.

                                Then there are the tragedies of the 58,000 American families who lost a loved one in Vietnam, a war Kennedy was preparing to pull out of.

                                Perhaps the greatest tragedy of all is that something else died that Friday afternoon in November : the truth.


                                Over the years, many Americans have lost trust in what their govenment says. And the government has earned that distrust. It all began here, with the lie that one man, firing from behind, killed a President he admired for no apparent reason.

                                We may never know for sure WHO was behind the assassination. People have their theories, of course.

                                But what we CAN do is to expose the original "investigation" for what it was--- a fraud.

                                An attempt to satisfy the public that "Oswald was the sole assassin, that he had no confederates who are still at large, and the evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial."


                                To this end, the government institutions which we trust failed us. The FBI never conducted a normal homicide investigation but rather collected evidence against one man.

                                The Secret Service, who was responsible for the President's life, played a major role in the coverup of his assassination. It removed the President's body from Texas illegally. It harassed the Parkland witnesses and controlled evidence like the President's limo, the President's corpse and the autopsy photos and Xrays.

                                The US Military played a role in the coverup as well, choosing inexperienced administrators to perform the most important autopsy of the 20th century, administrators they could control and keep silent.




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                                Only when we have the courage to look into the darkness and expose its evil can we be sure that this will never ever happen again. And while there are some who are afraid to look into that darkness for fear of what they may see, there are still those of us brave enough to to bring to light how the hate of the security apparatus for President Kennedy allowed the assassination and the lies they perpetrated in order to cover up their complicity.


                                DONT BE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH , IT WONT HURT A BIT.

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