Chapman’s death.

[Herlock Sholmes]

More brilliance from Professor Baron of Narnia:

All those opinions don't say that the (at least two hours, probably more) was wrong, and you admitted this yourself before.

All of those experts say that he couldn’t have estimated it accurately unless it was by luck.

Please state your Medical credentials which allow you to dispute the knowledge of the top minds on the subject. Enlighten us.

[Herlock Sholmes]

. Neither him!

Youre absolutely correct Baron. I’m not qualified to give an opinion on Forensic medicine. And so what do I do?

I go to the experts. So unless you’re saying that Jason Payne-James or Sir Keith Simpson or Sir Bernard Knight (to name but three) should be dismissed then you are beyond hope of reason.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Certainly not what Herlock puts out.

Netiquette ...... fishpeople ........

This from a man who, until recently had always been very cordial toward me, until I made one post that he disagreed with and he threw his dummy out of the pram big time. And now suddenly I’m the enemy. It’s pathetic.

Ill leave you to your Sutton fantasies. When you have the courage of your convictions and desist from acting like Pierre you might be taken seriously. Try making constructive posts instead of pointlessly sniping from the sidelines. Present your case for Sutton. If you can imagine a blackmail plot from the words..will, you and yes then I’m expecting a classic.

[The Baron]

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This from a man who, until recently had always been very cordial toward me, until I made one post that he disagreed with and he threw his dummy out of the pram big time. And now suddenly I’m the enemy. It’s pathetic.

Ill leave you to your Sutton fantasies. When you have the courage of your convictions and desist from acting like Pierre you might be taken seriously. Try making constructive posts instead of pointlessly sniping from the sidelines. Present your case for Sutton. If you can imagine a blackmail plot from the words..will, you and yes then I’m expecting a classic.

I can smell the smoke coming from your letters Sherlock!

I know how you feel.



The Baron

[Herlock Sholmes]

We have posters that think that they can overrule Forensic medical knowledge and re-write the textbooks.

We have posters that, no matter how many times they are told, persist in resorting to making false claims about what I’ve said or what I think.

We have posters making claims about where the killer stood or knelt, as if they were there at the time.

We have a poster inventing a huge one metre gap between Chapman and the fence.

We have a poster who thinks that because Cadosch was cautious about the word no but confident about the noise then he should be dismissed! Witnesses are criticised for honesty! What next?

We have a poster who refuses to accept what every single person interested in this case would know. That times cannot be taken as exact because of the lack of watches and clocks.

We have a joker who, when someone made a humorous post about Richardson having long hair and one eye which might have explained him missing the body, actually believe this to be true.

We have the fact that of the 5 posters who tend to go with Philips - 3 of them have theories which need Phillips to have been correct and one (Baron) only ever posts on this Forum to disagree with me. And yet none of those who favour the witnesses have theories which need the witnesses to be correct. And Baron talks about bias.

We have posters who constantly avoid answering difficult questions by resorting to stupid comments. Will Fishy ever answer the question of why he thinks Phillips opinions are gospel and yet he won’t comment on Phillips stating that Annie was definitely killed where she was found.

And we have DJA saying that I’ve lowered the standards.


This debate has two sides.

Those that blindly support Phillips are often lacking in integrity, biased, childish, evasive and lacking in reason, logic and common sense.

Those that favour the witnesses support science/medical expertise, calm interpretation of evidence, a refusal to indulge in leaps of faith to shoehorn theories into place and logic.

I have no issue with reasoned argument whether it agrees with my opinion or not but in some quarters this is absent.

[Herlock Sholmes]

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I can smell the smoke coming from your letters Sherlock!

I know how you feel.



The Baron

Learn to read. It might help you understand the subject more.

Its Herlock.

[Michael W Richards]

If you are taking a poll, I think in all likelihood Annie Chapman was murdered at about 5.30. The combined witness statements are more compelling to me than a doctor using a known unreliable method of guesstimating the TOD. I stop short of asserting that is proven beyond all reasonable doubt but not a long way short.

Well tempered and something I can live with easily here. People dismissing the only truly relevant witnesses, the ones that were either at the murder spot, or adjacent to it...before any murder was discovered, are proof enough that Annie wasnt dead before 5, and that someone... on the spot she is found just before 6am, was alive at 5:15. This is simple math, not some convoluted witness misses seeing a few feet in front of him, witness mistakes yard he heard noise coming from, even though admittedly he had heard noises from that same location in the past. Phillips, and I suppose just about any top physician at that time, can not be counted on as being a defacto source for TOD under the conditions existing that night, and the extreme condition of the body.

I think interestingly, in another Ripper case where TOD is an issue, the warmth of that environment played a role in the onset of rigor.

[DJA]

This from a man who, until recently had always been very cordial toward me, until I made one post that he disagreed with and he threw his dummy out of the pram big time. And now suddenly I’m the enemy. It’s pathetic.

Ill leave you to your Sutton fantasies. When you have the courage of your convictions and desist from acting like Pierre you might be taken seriously. Try making constructive posts instead of pointlessly sniping from the sidelines. Present your case for Sutton. If you can imagine a blackmail plot from the words..will, you and yes then I’m expecting a classic.

Flaming (Internet) - Wikipedia

Barnum effect - Wikipedia

I actually reposted part my research due to repeated requests on this thread.

I have long considered you a dishonest flaming time waster. You stoop to following your enemies around this forum and attacking them completely off topic.

My habit of replying to posts without the quote fails at times,hence ONE reply to you was prefaced with Hi Sherlock.

Have a peep at number nine in Barnum effect. You took that as a compliment.

Arrogant gullible fool with a Little Hitler script.

You are like an organ grinder's monkey, which as a climax steals an onlooker's cigarette and shoves it up it's arse. Rewarded with gold bars.

Pierre has used multiple aliases.He is laughing at people like you. One of his alters is using a female name on another forum. A gentleman when compared to you.

[DJA]

learn to read. It might help you understand the subject more.

Its Shylock

fify

[Ms Diddles]

If you are taking a poll, I think in all likelihood Annie Chapman was murdered at about 5.30. The combined witness statements are more compelling to me than a doctor using a known unreliable method of guesstimating the TOD. I stop short of asserting that is proven beyond all reasonable doubt but not a long way short.

An excellently lucid and succinct summary amid the carnage of this thread!

I am in complete agreement.

[The Baron]

Flaming (Internet) - Wikipedia

Barnum effect - Wikipedia

I actually reposted part my research due to repeated requests on this thread.

I have long considered you a dishonest flaming time waster. You stoop to following your enemies around this forum and attacking them completely off topic.

My habit of replying to posts without the quote fails at times,hence ONE reply to you was prefaced with Hi Sherlock.

Have a peep at number nine in Barnum effect. You took that as a compliment.

Arrogant gullible fool with a Little Hitler script.

You are like an organ grinder's monkey, which as a climax steals an onlooker's cigarette and shoves it up it's arse. Rewarded with gold bars.

Pierre has used multiple aliases.He is laughing at people like you. One of his alters is using a female name on another forum. A gentleman when compared to you.

Thats why I don't post too much, because I know there are those who can say it better than me!


Hat off to you Dave!



The Baron

[DJA]

I did Google that .......just in case

[Herlock Sholmes]

Flaming (Internet) - Wikipedia

Barnum effect - Wikipedia

I actually reposted part my research due to repeated requests on this thread.

I have long considered you a dishonest flaming time waster. You stoop to following your enemies around this forum and attacking them completely off topic.

My habit of replying to posts without the quote fails at times,hence ONE reply to you was prefaced with Hi Sherlock.

Have a peep at number nine in Barnum effect. You took that as a compliment.

Arrogant gullible fool with a Little Hitler script.

You are like an organ grinder's monkey, which as a climax steals an onlooker's cigarette and shoves it up it's arse. Rewarded with gold bars.

Pierre has used multiple aliases.He is laughing at people like you. One of his alters is using a female name on another forum. A gentleman when compared to you.

I won’t bother responding to any of your drivel after this post.

You are an obvious fantasist who has done the usual trick of picking someone that was vertical at the time and then attempted any number of dishonest tactics to shoehorn him into place but you don’t have the courage or integrity to post in full so that others can assess. You, like Pierre, simply drip-feed twaddle and expect everyone to be gullible enough to believe you. A poster here once told me what you were like but I thought that they might have just had a misunderstanding. Turns out they were right.

As for the nonsense about following my ‘enemies’ around I’d certainly like to see some evidence of this, Especially since I’m posting on a thread that I started myself. I’d previously been posting on a Druitt thread where there were no ‘enemies’ as you childishly call them. But I can certainly say that I myself get followed around. The Baron only posts to disagree with me on any topic. I post on very few threads so how I can be accused of following people around is about as laughable as everything else that you post. If you wish to align yourself withFishy and The Baron I’ll congratulate you on a wise choice. You’re in the right club.

It appears that for you, posting on Forensic experts and assessing witness statements is somehow extreme. I’m polite to every single poster that is polite to me and that don’t make false statements.

In this post alone you have made three Personal Insults. All reportable. I won’t sink to your depths though. You even mention the Amber bars. How childish and pathetic! A bit jealous are we? Why don’t you ask Fishy or The Baron to give you a like or two.

I’ve done nothing but try to discus the Chapman Murder on here (the subject of the thread) You have contributed nothing except to try and promote your suspect by dropping crumbs of nonsense.

Ill discuss any aspect of the case with any reasonable poster whether they agree with me or not but, and I don’t think I’m alone in this, I’m now absolutely sick and tired of time wasters on here.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Thats why I don't post too much, because I know there are those who can say it better than me!


Hat off to you Dave!



The Baron

You do post too much.

[DJA]

I won’t bother responding to any of your drivel after this post.

Promise,promises.

You can't help yourself.

I know what makes you tick and I am not alone.

PS Next time you are PMing Sam,give him my regards.He seems to have me on ignore.