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Hello Debs. Just found a Bernard O'Malley, RIC, who testified on 30 October and again 1 November. Irwin also testified then.
On 7 November we have a Welsh and Barry. Barry began testimony the day before.
Any good?
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LC
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Hello Debs. Thanks. Think I'll check on testimony dates. Maybe something will pop up.
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LC
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Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
Quite reasonable, schedule permitting. I can consult MacDonald's diary for the days of their testimony. Would this help? Was there a time frame for their testimonies vs. their coming to London?
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LC
The RIC are not listed as taking part in the Lord Mayor's Show in any official capacity as far as I can see looking at the PMG list of participants.Last edited by Debra A; 05-01-2012, 02:33 PM.
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Originally posted by miss marple View PostDebs, the reason I dismissed John Ward was the fact he had married in 1882 in Ireland which suggests he had not gone to Wales, If supposedly 'John Kelly' had gone to Wales to find work with family when Mary was a child that suggests a date of the 1870s.
I checked Wards in Wales [looking for the father] under common first names starting with John, I could not find any Wards who originated in Ireland,on the 1881 census, they were all Welsh.
I am looking at all the first fifty common Limerick surnames to see the frequency of these names in Wales and how many had an Irish origin and if any family matches Mary's family starting with the name John for the father.
This will take ages, some names are more frequent than others, but I am hoping a pattern will emerge or something will stand out, you never know.
Miss Marple
I probably don't think Ward is the right man either, though I wonder if a soldier could marry where he was stationed rather than where he had once lived? There are a few male Wards in the 1881 census born in Ireland and living in Wales, do you mean Wards who were too old or young or in the wrong county in wales?
Good luck with the Limerick surnames research. Sounds like a lot of hard work!
Hopefully something might come out of it.Last edited by Debra A; 05-01-2012, 02:34 PM.
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Hello Debs. Thanks.
"Well, we know members of the RIC were definitely over from Ireland in November to give evidence, so, perhaps they planned to take in the Lords Mayor's Show too?"
Quite reasonable, schedule permitting. I can consult MacDonald's diary for the days of their testimony. Would this help? Was there a time frame for their testimonies vs. their coming to London?
Cheers.
LC
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Debs, the reason I dismissed John Ward was the fact he had married in 1882 in Ireland which suggests he had not gone to Wales, If supposedly 'John Kelly' had gone to Wales to find work with family when Mary was a child that suggests a date of the 1870s.
I checked Wards in Wales [looking for the father] under common first names starting with John, I could not find any Wards who originated in Ireland,on the 1881 census, they were all Welsh.
I am looking at all the first fifty common Limerick surnames to see the frequency of these names in Wales and how many had an Irish origin and if any family matches Mary's family starting with the name John for the father.
This will take ages, some names are more frequent than others, but I am hoping a pattern will emerge or something will stand out, you never know.
Miss Marple
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Originally posted by richardnunweek View PostHi.
Mary Kelly's hair colour was described well by the son of McCarthy , that is if one takes the view of his grand daughter Ms Kendall Lane.
Regards Richard.
Mike
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Hi.
Mary Kelly's hair colour was described well by the son of McCarthy , that is if one takes the view of his grand daughter Ms Kendall Lane.
Regards Richard.
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Hi.
Mary Kelly's hair colour was described well by the son of McCarthy , that is if one takes the view of his grand daughter Ms Kendall Lane.
Regards Richard.
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello Debs. Hmm, now you're talking.
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LC
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Errata,
Let me help you a bit with brunette:
deepest brunette - the darkest brown, which can be a very dark chestnut; sometimes appears to be off black at a distance.[3]
dark brown
milk chocolate brown
chestnut brown - medium brunette to dark brown with dark auburn tones.
light chestnut brown
medium brown - standard brunette, comparable to russet brown
walnut brown - a warmer variant of medium brown, comparable to a light chestnut
medium golden brown - brown with yellowish tone.
light golden brown
light golden reddish brown - a warm light brown with red tones.
medium ash brown
light ash brown - almost blonde hair
lightest brown - light brown that goes mid blonde in the sun
MJK couldn't have been any of those colors? And this from a black and white photo? Again, we don't know her hair color, or maybe you do and the rest of us don't.
Mike
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Originally posted by The Good Michael View PostIt could be, but no one really knows. Blonde, brunette, strawberry blonde, red, we don't know. It's that simple.
Mike
And if one likes, one could look up pictures of George Armstrong Custer, who is famous for his blond hair, and see that the two colors are almost an exact match, but with Kelly having more beige than white, which would indicate a reddish tone to the blonde, as opposed to the yellow tone of Custer.
So if she doesn't look like a brunette, why would she be a brunette?
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This made me think,Why would a Catholic boy from Limerick join the Scots Guards, which is a particularly protestant regiment which supported William and Mary?
Dave
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