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  • Garza
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    That isn't a conspiracy in any form. He fits better than all known others. But if we accept this... then bingo... the great one-man manhunt is over... and some ego's will never, ever accept that they got it wrong all along. Too many crushed egos incapable of widening horizons and plausibilities.

    lol in the little time and experience I have had in ripperology I have learned that people who decry other peoples egos are usually the ones with egos themselves.

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  • Garza
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Garza. My working hypothesis is that Jacob Isenschmid killed Polly and Annie. He was sent to the asylum on September 12. Simultaneously, Wladyslaw Milevski, under direction from Pyotr Rachkovski, was opening an Okhrana branch in London. (Sources: Butterworth, op. cit. and Ben Fischer's Okhrana book.) He needed a good reason as to WHY anarchists should be feared. (As Butterworth points out, the match girl's strike was far too tame.) The good people of the East End were scared out of their wits by "Leather Apron"--a foreign looking man, possibly Jewish. But if this was JI and he were taken out of circulation . . . . But wait? Why must he be taken out of circulation? Why not more killings perpetrated by a "foreign looking man" who might be an anarchist?

    Behold now! "Dear Boss"; "Saucy Jack"; "the GSG"; "a piece of evidence found near a Jewish dwelling"; "a death near the side door of a Jewish anarchist club." This is all theatre and, what's more, it's made to order.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Well good luck in finding evidence for your hypothesis - and I mean that genuinely, not in a sarcastic way.

    I'm a scientist by trade so my nose follows the evidence, and the evidence at the present tells me that Jack the Ripper killed 4, probably 6 individuals. Of course all can change.

    However my point remains...the members of the IWEC had all the materials for a nice quick cover up - transport, cloak of the night. Yet they chose to find a policeman. It seems like the actions of a bunch of innocent bystanders who don't know whats going on than a cover up.


    Originally posted by mariab View Post
    I don't agree that Stride and Eddowes were not done by the Ripper, but I believe that some of the issues Lynn Cates discussed in his post #617 (WOW! is this a high number, or what?!) should be addressed, and researched.
    I would never suggest otherwise maria, of course the anarchists and socialists of Whitechapel should be researched - they are tied to the Jack the Ripper case via Liz Stride.
    Last edited by Garza; 12-23-2010, 07:50 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    thanks

    Hello Michael. Thanks. Good example of violence.

    And thanks for the kind remarks.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • The Good Michael
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    Lynn,

    We kind of saw that with McKinley's assassin who had roots in anarchy, but acted alone.

    Anyway, keep up the good work.

    Mike

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  • lynn cates
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    Okhrana

    Hello Michael. Again, that's largely correct. Of course Bourdin was reckoned amongst the English anarchists.

    And, of course, no law says that the Okhrana HAD to hire an anarchist. Any anti-semite or anarchist baiter would do--given the proper level of violence in the personality.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • The Good Michael
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post

    (Incidentally, you were aware that the anarchists were basically divided into 2 groups--those who espoused "propaganda by deed" and those who abhorred violence?)
    Lynn,

    Of course, but strong words didn't seem to lead to much action in an aggressive way. The movement in London was so much weaker than the one in the States though they shared ideals.

    Mike

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  • lynn cates
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    pro

    Hello Maria. No, that's not Dr. T. She is a pro and has even made suggestions that would cut back on time.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    JI

    Hello Corey. Thanks. And all the best with the Rip piece.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Lynn Cates wrote.
    You might have a good idea about the Schwartz reference.

    Unless Dr. Turtletaub gets all greedy and doesn't wish to cooperate...

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  • lynn cates
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    rogue

    Hello Michael. The bulk of your post is correct. I am NOT implicating chaps like Wess, Eagle, et al.

    "The only possible danger I see in all this is the idea that someone went rogue."

    Yes. A club visitor. Someone like the chaps from the Autonomie club. A different situation that.

    Would Berner defend them? No, but they would need to deflect the blame and rigidly separate themselves from their more violent brethren.

    (Incidentally, you were aware that the anarchists were basically divided into 2 groups--those who espoused "propaganda by deed" and those who abhorred violence?)

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • corey123
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    Hello Lynn,

    Indeed, we have a rare chance with Isenschmid to study the psychology of it, no doubt. Hopefully, my Rip article will spark some, eh?

    Worth a try at least.

    Have a good christmas my friend.

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  • lynn cates
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    good points

    Hello Corey. Well, your post says it all. Personally, I think one should remain with the received story and the traditional suspects--at least until enough other stories fail to jibe.

    And Thanks for the kind remarks about Isenschmid. Ripper or no, he is psychologically fascinating!

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    good idea

    Hello Maria. Yup. Each column is about L40. Now I know how Ms. Cornwell felt (heh-heh).

    You might have a good idea about the Schwartz reference.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    thanks

    Hello Phil. Thanks, mate. Much food for thought here.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • corey123
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    Hello Phil,

    Likewise, Merry Christmas.

    Time to make my list. However, well never mind

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