Is Kosminski still the best suspect we have?

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

    Which means that he was basing his opinion on the physical evidence which told him that Mackenzie wasn’t a victim. Munro disagreed. We can’t say if Mackenzie was or wasn’t a victim but it’s typical Baron thinking. He claims Mackenzie as a definite victim purely so that he can eliminate Druitt as a suspect in his own mind.


    How clever, some of medical openions of the time didn't even agree on the 5 being cut by the same hand.


    With Tabram and Mckenzie, that makes at least 7 victims.


    The arguments that one of these may not be a ripper victim is old and boring and outdated, mostly aimed to bring a week suspect to the table.


    Druitt doesn't need to be eliminated, the man didn't even set a foot in Whitechapel as far as I know, do you know otherwise, or you just speculating?!


    Let me guess, you are just speculating.

    Druitt was in another part of england the day Tabram, Chapman, maybe even Nichols, and Mckenzie lost there lives.


    Feel free to keep suspecting him, the human ability to find scenarios that suit there believes is unlimited, we see people everyday believing the diary is genuine, even worse, and because someone found a body, they made him the one who killed all the whitchapel victims and all the torsos in the east and west end, Druittis are not an exception in that regard



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  • Herlock Sholmes
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    -When Anderson said Mckenzie was not the act of Jack the ripper, at that time he still had no idea who Jack the Ripper was.
    Which means that he was basing his opinion on the physical evidence which told him that Mackenzie wasn’t a victim. Munro disagreed. We can’t say if Mackenzie was or wasn’t a victim but it’s typical Baron thinking. He claims Mackenzie as a definite victim purely so that he can eliminate Druitt as a suspect in his own mind.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
    Thankyou RJ.

    Of course you will thank him.

    One will not expect you to point to him that:

    -When Anderson said Mckenzie was not the act of Jack the ripper, at that time he still had no idea who Jack the Ripper was.

    -And that Swanson included Mckenzie in the list of the Whitechapel murders.


    Mckenzie , until proven otherwise, is a ripper victim in my book:

    Druitt was not the ripper.



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  • Wickerman
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    Thankyou RJ.

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  • rjpalmer
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post
    Remind me again then, where was Druitt when Mckenzie was killed?!
    Hardly a game-changer or even relevant considering that the main champion of the Polish Jew theory, Sir Robert Anderson, didn't include Mackenzie in the Ripper's body count, and insisted that Mary Kelly was the last true victim.

    --a theory that aligns better with Druitt than with Aaron Kosminski


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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

    Given that none of the suspects are any good, if in your opinion he is one of the best of a bad bunch, that isn't really saying much.



    Yes I know you don't like your Ripper to be anything like 23 years old boy.

    Quite the contrary to your old fashioned sentiment, it is the perfect age for a schizofrenic ripper and Aaron's age is just spot on.

    Remind me again then, where was Druitt when Mckenzie was killed?!

    You wont be saying much either I bet.


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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by The Baron View Post



    Hello Scott

    I believe Kosminski is one of the best suspects that we have.
    Given that none of the suspects are any good, if in your opinion he is one of the best of a bad bunch, that isn't really saying much.



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  • Wickerman
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    We need just a tad more than that to create a suspect...

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  • Scott Nelson
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    He was at liberty. I don't believe he was under surveillance.

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  • The Baron
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    Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
    First named by Macnaghten 6 years after the murders, in 1894. And again by Swanson 16 years later, in 1910 (or sometime after).


    Hello Scott

    I believe Kosminski is one of the best suspects that we have.

    One question though, I didn't see this discussed before or maybe I've missed it somewhere, but could Aaron Kosminski have killed Mckenzie?! was he incarcerated or under surveillance at the time?


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  • Columbo
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    Sorry, you must have read different research to me. You obviously read some evidence where Koz was was named at the time of the murders as a suspect? Not, 5, 10, 15 or 20 years after? I must confess I missed that.
    I never said at the time of the murders. I said contemporary police officials, i.e, officials who were around at the time of the murders.

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  • Scott Nelson
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    First named by Macnaghten 6 years after the murders, in 1894. And again by Swanson 16 years later, in 1910 (or sometime after).

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  • erobitha
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    Originally posted by Columbo View Post

    I believe it was the fact he was mentioned by contemporary Police Officials in memoranda, books, etc, that made his candidacy as the top suspect. If you researched as you say you should know that.
    Sorry, you must have read different research to me. You obviously read some evidence where Koz was was named at the time of the murders as a suspect? Not, 5, 10, 15 or 20 years after? I must confess I missed that.

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  • Columbo
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post

    I have lucid periods, doesn’t make me a murderer. His candidacy is almost exclusively based on his strange behaviour of eating food from the gutter and publicly masturbating. Again, neither make him a murderer. I don’t rely on one person’s research. I make my decisions reviewing multiple sources.
    Koz may well be compelling to you but that does not make him the case’s best suspect.
    I believe it was the fact he was mentioned by contemporary Police Officials in memoranda, books, etc, that made his candidacy as the top suspect. If you researched as you say you should know that.

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  • erobitha
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    Originally posted by Columbo View Post

    Actually you don’t know that. Neither do I, but there is evidence that he had lucid periods, even to the point of representing himself in court at one point close to this time. I find him very compelling in that he’s probably the most misunderstood suspect. People need to not depend on Martin Fido’s opinion and do more research on him. I don’t know if he was JTR, but he is a pretty interesting, sad fellow. And the fact he was named by contemporaries makes him the most compelling to me. Read Jack the Ripper and the case for Scotland yards prime suspect by Robert House. Very good examination of Kosminski.
    I have lucid periods, doesn’t make me a murderer. His candidacy is almost exclusively based on his strange behaviour of eating food from the gutter and publicly masturbating. Again, neither make him a murderer. I don’t rely on one person’s research. I make my decisions reviewing multiple sources.
    Koz may well be compelling to you but that does not make him the case’s best suspect.

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