Team Jack

[Wickerman]

Are we not confusing 'reward' with 'pardon'?

[Hunter]

Hello Cris. Thanks.

To save face after earlier rejections?

To keep his job. Given all that had already been said, defend it anyway, claim that something new had come up that forced a change in plans, and throw an underling under the bus to give the detractors some red meat.

Its the first chapter in that best selling book where all seats of government exist - Politics for Dummies

[Phil H]

I tink one just needs to read the files on the reward question.

The murder of MJK was just so ghastly that they were desperate - the Home Secretary could not say his previous policy was wrong (that, in such a high-profile case would have been to offer his head to the opposition). So they had to find an alternative way of offering a reward.

This they did by INVENTING an accomplice - thus changing the circumstances and making a change of official policy acceptable and necessary.

I don't think anyone in the Home Office believed for a moment that there was evidence of a second man/person. It was a vital contrivance in allowing a reward to be offered.

End of story.

Phil

[RivkahChaya]

Hello DLDW, Cris. Thanks.

I was thinking ONLY of the reply of Matthews in the House of Commons, 23, November:

"In the case of Kelly there were certain circumstances which were wanting in the earlier cases, and which made it more probable that there were other persons who, at any rate after the crime, had assisted the murderer."

(Hansard: 3rd series: Vol 331: p. 16--reproduced in "The Ultimate" p. 349.)

Cheers.
LC

I'm not sure what the rest of you are talking about, because I think I'm lacking in some detail of your political history. To me, that sounds like a circumlocution for "In the other cases, we can see how maybe the amount of blood on him either allowed him to be mistaken for a slaughterman, or just blended in with very dark clothes at night; in the case of Kelly, however, there must have been so much blood, that someone, somewhere, must have noticed, and probably even helped him 'cover,' in the sense of helping him either clean his clothes, or destroy them. If that person comes forward, we will not prosecute."

[lynn cates]

face

Hello Cris. Thanks.

To save face after earlier rejections?

Cheers.
LC

[Phil H]

I think you are spot-on, Hunter.

Phil

[Hunter]

That's likely a politician's excuse for changing his mind.

[lynn cates]

Matthews

Hello DLDW, Cris. Thanks.

I was thinking ONLY of the reply of Matthews in the House of Commons, 23, November:

"In the case of Kelly there were certain circumstances which were wanting in the earlier cases, and which made it more probable that there were other persons who, at any rate after the crime, had assisted the murderer."

(Hansard: 3rd series: Vol 331: p. 16--reproduced in "The Ultimate" p. 349.)

Cheers.
LC

[Hunter]

How about for the simple reason Bond suggested in his report?... Or is that not convoluted enough?

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Hullo Lynn

Escaped is not the word I'm trying to think of. Aargh! Someone who lied to the police about not knowing who they had seen. Something along those lines. After 13 Millers Ct it may have just been them trying anything to prevent that from happening again. Wait, wasn't the pardon worded as such that as long as you didn't help with the murders themselves then you would be pardoned? Wouldn't that effectively be worthless to a team Jack for either member? I think everyone was just desperate to make it stop and go away. I still contend that, unless caught in the act publicly, the murder's indentity would not have been revealed. Starting to meander. Slumber now.

[lynn cates]

escape

Hello DLDW. Thanks.

Sounds like they thought someone had helped the killer escape?

Cheers.
LC

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Pardon me

Maybe it was aimed at a witness. A Lawende or Levy. Someone they thought knew the killer and didn't give them up. So help us and you won't get in any trouble. Just a thought.

[lynn cates]

help

Hello Martin. Given the comments surrounding the offer, it looks more like the latter.

Cheers.
LC

[martin wilson]

The pardon for associates of the murderer was offered on November 10th.
Desperate act of the police at their wits end?
Or did they suspect something else, the details of which have been lost?
All the best.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

Gonna attempt this. Will probably fail.

Maybe, but then he has a choice as to which way to lay he down once he's knocked her out. So with her feet where they were he could have laid her out perpendicular to the stairs in the yard, even with her feet pointed towards the door. But he doesn't. Which seems to make a case he just dropped her and killed her wherever she landed, and she just happened to land in that spot. Which is the murder equivalent of a hole in one.

Okay, the corner would've provided some cover. Also placing him near the door, the point of access into the yard. So hearing anyone approaching would be easiest. Also allowing the door to provide some cover from someone entering the yard. That location is well suited if someone sees you from a window so you can bolt quick. Also, your own body would be blocking other lines of sight.You wouldn't want your back to the door. You wouldn't want to be in the middle of the yard in the open. Whether it was intentional, or intuitive, or random, it was tactically a pretty good spot.