Motivation?

[kwanitaka]

[QUOTE=erobitha;n739537]Finally a proper good Ripper question.

I have a preferred suspect which is known on these boards but let’s park that for one minute and talk about motive. Why would someone do this?

VICTIMOLOGY
All canonical five victims were prostitutes. 4 of which murdered in the open of which one actually in broad daylight (Chapman) and one in her own lodgings. It's not unreasonable to assume he was specifically targeting this class of women so he must have had a reason.

MODUS OPERANDI
It appeared he strangled or suffocated them in order to silence them in the first instance. Then to make sure they were definitely dead he slit their throats. The way he slit their throats also varied, but this was pragmatic to ensure they were dead and not simply unconscious. To kill them silently as quickly as possible was his first aim. Some victims he almost severed their heads off and in other cases it was just the arteries in the neck he severed without fully cutting all the way across the neck. Then the post mortem mutilations varied. Polly Ann Nichols was disembowelled, Annie Chapman uterus and more, Catherine Eddowes much more including the kidney and then finally Mary Jane Kelly where he just went to town and the heart was believed to be missing - but she was flayed to the bone on most of her body. Dehumanisation was the goal here. The worst victim was Kelly in her own lodgings. She was also the youngest and I believe that was relevant to the murderer.

WEAPON
It is regarded the knife used was 6 inches at least. What type of knife we do not know but almost certainly not surgical in my view. Someone with surgical knowledge would have better selection of tools to use if the aim was surgical. This was quite a brutal knife picked by the killer to do multiple jobs from slitting the throat to removing a uterus or heart. It just needed to be sharp and effective.

ORGANISED vs DISORGANISED
It is assumed that as these attacks were random and as such made him more of a disorganised killer. However, the fact the murder targets were always prostitutes, the way he subdued them, how he always killed at weekends and he was able to blend in seamlessly - suggests to me enough pattern behaviour to challenge that hypothesis. I believe he may have had some acquaintance with one or two of the victims, but that's purely my theory and is unproven.

So from the above we can garner the killer's motive is to dehumanise the prostitute working class women of Whitechapel in the most brutal way possible on weekends. The killing itself was not the aim - that was the admin. The post mortem mutilation is what he was more interested in, hence the fascination with dehumanisation. Whitechapel was "darkest London" and whilst prostitutes could be found almost anywhere, there was believed to be over a thousand in the Whitechapel district alone. A lion hunts for wilderbeast at the waters edge where there are many. Also there was some kind of proud showmanship here. It's like he was proud of his work. The way Kelly was positioned was staged and for a reason.

1) A whore did him wrong somehow and this is payback. They were fair game and they disgusted him.
2) Alternatively this could be the work of a religious maniac who saw prostitutes as the embodiment of satan himself and felt they were doing some kind of "gods work"
3) Just a crazy jew who lost the plot [for Kosminski

[The Baron]

Hi Harry

My point still stands. It's just a bit too convenient to say that there was a cooling off period especially when there was such frequency with the C5.

Cheers John

What if the police was watching him John?! Do you not think this is enough to keep him out of killing for some months?!

And what if he was forced to spend some time in an asylum?! And when he was out again he killed Mckenzie?! Is that not possible either?!



The Baron

[John Wheat]

You've made this point before, John.

Serial killers have been known to have cooling-off periods after bursts of activity. Some killers have gone years between murders.

That's without taking into account factors such as incarceration or sickness.

Hi Harry

My point still stands. It's just a bit too convenient to say that there was a cooling off period especially when there was such frequency with the C5.

Cheers John

[Harry D]

The main problem with McKenzie being a Ripper victim is why the long gap between her and the C5.

You've made this point before, John.

Serial killers have been known to have cooling-off periods after bursts of activity. Some killers have gone years between murders.

That's without taking into account factors such as incarceration or sickness.

[John Wheat]

Ah, the chap Druitt again..


So you are convinced his brother killed him.

Druitt met his brother, confessed to him that he was the ripper, and that he couldn't help himself but continue butchering the women on the streets of Whitechapel, his brother thought how to keep the name of the family out of this mess, and chose to get rid of him.


Great!


And then someone killed Mackenzie.. oh no, not good, let's say it must be a copycat!



The Baron

The main problem with McKenzie being a Ripper victim is why the long gap between her and the C5.

[John Wheat]

Oops. Just remembered the whole solitary vice thing referred to Kosminski not Druitt.

c.d.

I believe it is common knowledge that Druitt and Tumblety for that matter were likely to have been gay.

[c.d.]

Oops. Just remembered the whole solitary vice thing referred to Kosminski not Druitt.

c.d.

[c.d.]

Him being described as sexually insane at the time. As for it not being suicide what exactly do you base that on?

I thought that referred to his fondness for spanking the monkey rather than being gay.

c.d.

[John Wheat]

The "probably Gay" is based on what?
There were several girls at the boys school, servants & kitchen staff.
I'm not, nor ever have been, convinced it was a suicide.

Him being described as sexually insane at the time. As for it not being suicide what exactly do you base that on?

[The Baron]

I'm not, nor ever have been, convinced it was a suicide.

Ah, the chap Druitt again..


So you are convinced his brother killed him.

Druitt met his brother, confessed to him that he was the ripper, and that he couldn't help himself but continue butchering the women on the streets of Whitechapel, his brother thought how to keep the name of the family out of this mess, and chose to get rid of him.


Great!


And then someone killed Mackenzie.. oh no, not good, let's say it must be a copycat!



The Baron

[c.d.]

Any "incident" at the school would not necessarily had to have been of a sexual nature. He simply might have had occasions where he showed mental instability or excessive emotions.

c.d.

[Abby Normal]

The "probably Gay" is based on what?
There were several girls at the boys school, servants & kitchen staff.
I'm not, nor ever have been, convinced it was a suicide.

who? druitt didnt commit suicide?

[Wickerman]

...... Druitt was probably gay and thus unlikely to murder females and also would Jack really commit suicide?

The "probably Gay" is based on what?
There were several girls at the boys school, servants & kitchen staff.
I'm not, nor ever have been, convinced it was a suicide.

[Fisherman]

4 victims. Cryptic messages in the GSG. Rituals.

Makes Chuck seem the sensible option.

At least a round dozen victims (including Stride), no message whatsoever in the GSG and perhaps more of a hangup than a traditionally ritualistic behaviour. That also makes Chuck a sensible option.

Heīs flexible, our carman, donīt ya know.

Nah, mr Bundy, Iīm simply curious about what it is miakaal4 has in mind. That does not mean that I will invest in it, once I find out.

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

Then take your time. Just donīt forget to return and tell us what came of it!

4 victims. Cryptic messages in the GSG. Rituals.

Makes Chuck seem the sensible option.