Motivation?

[The Baron]

Maybe Bury didn't hate prostitutes until one gave him venereal disease which may have been after he married Ellen.

Cheers John

Possible of course John

But let me ask you, if one got a venereal disease, will he blame the girl, or blame himself for contacting her? and if she has such a disease, is he going to eat her Kidney? was bury in such an advanced stage of the disease that he felt his days are finishing and he will carry the revenge on every prositute he can get his hands on?!


I find this whole venereal disease argument not convincing, but who knows,


The Baron

[Takod]

Seems to be a destruction of the essence of the feminine, whatever it is, it's all rather pent-up and frustrated. Like a postmortem eruption by-knife.

[John Wheat]

That makes me feel, maybe Bury is not the right man, because, if he hates Prostitutes that much, why to marry one of them at first place.



The Baron

Maybe Bury didn't hate prostitutes until one gave him venereal disease which may have been after he married Ellen.

Cheers John

[The Baron]

That makes me feel, maybe Bury is not the right man, because, if he hates Prostitutes that much, why to marry one of them at first place.



The Baron

[The Baron]

your welcome. now you seem to have something in mind so whats your take on it then? what was his motivation?

Actually Abby I realy don't have something specific in mind, but if I have to put it somehow:

Great hatred of Prostitutes.

The way he killed them, mutilated them and show them.

Buy the way, eating the Kidney, you can interpret it as Cannibalism, which is possible of course, but there is another more appropriate meaning to it in this case,

hatred!


In history, I've read about something similar, when someone hates someone else very much, and managed to kill him, he may eat his liver or Kidney to satisfy his hatred and deep rancour, hence the From Hell letter.



The Baron

[Abby Normal]

Thank you Abby.


The Baron

your welcome. now you seem to have something in mind so whats your take on it then? what was his motivation?

[The Baron]

why females?
i dont know..

Thank you Abby.


The Baron

[The Baron]

The "silly simplification" you are speaking about is sometimes described as piquerism. And I believe it was Robert Keppel who said that the Ripper was an example of piquerism.

Silly man. What did he know?

By the way, to focus "on one single suspect" is of no use unless it can be proven that this single susect had a flair for cutting up women, is it? So that´s another of your points thrown out of the window.

Who´s silly now?

Why don't you let him answer for himself Fish

You couldn't resist the need to assist him

You want to be his guardian

You are so afraid

And if it bleeds...




The Baron

[Abby Normal]

That is not an answer to the real motive Abby.

Tell me why the female body

Why cutting up women

Don't buy from those who want to push their fantasies and agendas by any cost. They want you to believe these silly simplifications while they are behind the words focusing on one single suspect.



The Baron

why females?
i dont know.. maybe because he wasnt gay? serial killers usually if not always go after their sexual preference.

theres many motivations for different serial killers, and the rippers seems to be he derived pleasure from cutting up the female body.

i could delve deeper, but then thats even more speculation, although I do think curiosity also played a part.

[Fisherman]

That is not an answer to the real motive Abby.

Tell me why the female body

Why cutting up women

Don't buy from those who want to push their fantasies and agendas by any cost. They want you to believe these silly simplifications while they are behind the words focusing on one single suspect.



The Baron

The "silly simplification" you are speaking about is sometimes described as piquerism. And I believe it was Robert Keppel who said that the Ripper was an example of piquerism.

Silly man. What did he know?

By the way, to focus "on one single suspect" is of no use unless it can be proven that this single susect had a flair for cutting up women, is it? So that´s another of your points thrown out of the window.

Who´s silly now?

[The Baron]

imho the rippers main motivation was what his knife could do to the female body--he simply liked cutting up women.
secondary motivation was shocking the public.

no torture, no overt sexual abuse. all post mortem.

That is not an answer to the real motive Abby.

Tell me why the female body

Why cutting up women

Don't buy from those who want to push their fantasies and agendas by any cost. They want you to believe these silly simplifications while they are behind the words focusing on one single suspect.



The Baron

[c.d.]

How did the killer know the victims were prostitutes?We have suspicions because of the amount of information now available.How much information did he have,especially of Stride and Eddowes,when the aquaintance appears to be of a short duration.

If prostitutes' livelihood depended on them being noticed by men, I am sure they figured out a way to make their availability known.

c.d.

[Harry D]

No, actually.
I dismiss the GSG, nothing to do with the murders.
I do recall your suspect is a Jew whereas the man I am talking about was an Englishman, at least according to John Best.

I've flirted with a few suspects, and I think there's an argument to be made for a Jewish one.
Nowadays, I don't really have a horse in the race.
If you put a gun to my head, I'd plump for William Bury, simply for the law of averages.
However, I think the Ripper/Thames Torso link is an interesting theory that demands further research.

[Wickerman]

Because of the GSG?

No, actually.
I dismiss the GSG, nothing to do with the murders.
I do recall your suspect is a Jew whereas the man I am talking about was an Englishman, at least according to John Best.

[harry]

Supposing the killer was the one who made the approach.There were other inducements besides sex that could be offered.