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Hello Corey. Try "being strapped for cash." (Recall John's story about working and making 6d. He and Kate each tried to get the other to go to the doss house at Flower and Dean st with 4d whilst the other headed to the casual ward with tuppence.
Now.
1. Why does one usually stay in a casual ward--in fact, why had they stayed at one before?
A. Low on funds.
2. What time does one usually get out of a casual ward?
A. Look at the jury's question to John.
3. Why?
A. See above.
(Notice, by the way, that John put the pawning incident on SATURDAY morning, but they called his hand with the ticket. Then he says, "Oh, I am so muddled.")
Now with 2s 6d, why go to a casual ward?
But there's more. What time did John and Liz part company on Friday?
The best.
LC
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Originally posted by lynn cates View PostHello Corey. Capital. Now 3 questions. (Just say shut up and I shall.)
1. Why does one usually stay in a casual ward--in fact, why had they stayed at one before?
2. What time does one usually get out of a casual ward?
3. Why?
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LC
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Phil,
You have a point, My thead name is serial killers, a pattern. But if there is a single killer for each it wouldnt be "Serial killers, a patten" but "killers, a pattern".
This thread is about patterns in mental thinking, hence narcissism. Unless all the Fenians had Narcissism Im afraid this isnt the thread for that story. But do continue.
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Hello Corey. Capital. Now 3 questions. (Just say shut up and I shall.)
1. Why does one usually stay in a casual ward--in fact, why had they stayed at one before?
2. What time does one usually get out of a casual ward?
3. Why?
The best.
LC
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Hello Corey,
It was CONNECTED DIRECTLY to this thread... I quote myself..
There can be LITTLE doubt about a File on Whitechapel in those files, because they were investigating and crawling all over Whitechapel when the JTR stuff started!
The place was crawling with policemen!
A single killer would have to be a lone genius to be able to get away with that lot without help. 5 times!... Nope.. it doesn't add up.
That is the point. There is reason, ample reason to assume more than ONE serial killer (Your thread) explanation is given by my reply. If it goes into Fenianism, so what? The point is that anyone wanting to propose one two nine or fifty killers must back up their views... and that is exactly what I have done. With YOUR thread title in mind.
best wishes
Phil
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Hello Corey. Mile end what? Where did she sleep? (Since this is your thread, I'll be delighted to stop. Just say the magic word and I'm gone.)
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LC
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Originally posted by DVV View PostDefinitely Corey,
I accept "alternative views", but one has to understand that, altough - maybe - a healthy "thinking out of the box" as they put it, it's frankly far-fetched, outlandish, iconoclastic, square, round, triangular, everything...
note that until recently, Mike was rather a lone pluralist...
Amitiés
David
I accept their views but Im afraid it will be yet another theory.
A very odd one.
I wounder if anyone ever tied the zodiac case to terrorism yet???
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Originally posted by corey123 View PostDavid,
I am assuming you believe the murders to be that of a serial killer?
If you do then we are in the same boat.
I see a clear connection and a serial murderer behind them all.
So no worrys about corruption.
I accept "alternative views", but one has to understand that, altough - maybe - a healthy "thinking out of the box" as they put it, it's frankly far-fetched, outlandish, iconoclastic, square, round, triangular, everything...
note that until recently, Mike was rather a lone pluralist...
Amitiés
David
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Originally posted by Phil Carter View PostCorey,
Look, I have no beef with your theory. None at all. And because of 121 years of theorising left right and centre, I respect it as how the general Ripper community see things.
That's fine. But it HASN'T got any near solving all the problems involved in this mess. That's why an outside the box way to look at things was needed.
There ARE KNOWN CONNECTIONS with Fenianism, through comments made by both Macnaghten and Wynne Baxter. They raised the point, not Mike, Lynn and myself or others. We are investigating their words.
There is a strong Irish connection in this case.
Anderson had BOTH hats on in charge of the case, and head of CID. He used undercover methods in trying to flush out JTR.
Jenkinson before him had employed undercover people to get to the heart of the IRISH FENIAN PROBLEM IN WHITECHAPEL.
And the simple plain fact is we will never know UNLESS the CID files are opened up to the public. The ONLY TWO reasons that they are held closed is because of NATIONAL SECURITY and the names being protected for every generation etc. Whether Fenian names or Victim's names. Or policemen's names involced and what they did.
There can be LITTLE doubt about a File on Whitechapel in those files, because they were investigating and crawling all over Whitechapel when the JTR stuff started!
The place was crawling with policemen!
A single killer would have to be a lone genius to be able to get away with that lot without help. 5 times!... Nope.. it doesn't add up.
I respect your views, but give credit where credit is due. This case IS UNSOLVED and will always remain so whilst the same old base of interpretation continues. Like it has for 121 years. Getting us precisely NOWHERE.
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones!
best wishes
Phil
Now I'm sorry,
And I respect your(I dont know how to call it if not a theory) "supposition".
I see the police on the ground trying to find a murder.
I will leave you guys to do your work about Fenians. But please do it on another thread.
Thank you and good luck.
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continuing story
Hello Corey. Excellent. Now, where does John say that Kate spent Friday night?
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LC
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I am not familiar with english money but they got paid 2s 6d, If I am correct.
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Corey,
Look, I have no beef with your theory. None at all. And because of 121 years of theorising left right and centre, I respect it as how the general Ripper community see things.
That's fine. But it HASN'T got any near solving all the problems involved in this mess. That's why an outside the box way to look at things was needed.
There ARE KNOWN CONNECTIONS with Fenianism, through comments made by both Macnaghten and Wynne Baxter. They raised the point, not Mike, Lynn and myself or others. We are investigating their words.
There is a strong Irish connection in this case.
Anderson had BOTH hats on in charge of the case, and head of CID. He used undercover methods in trying to flush out JTR.
Jenkinson before him had employed undercover people to get to the heart of the IRISH FENIAN PROBLEM IN WHITECHAPEL.
And the simple plain fact is we will never know UNLESS the CID files are opened up to the public. The ONLY TWO reasons that they are held closed is because of NATIONAL SECURITY and the names being protected for every generation etc. Whether Fenian names or Victim's names. Or policemen's names involved and what they did.
There can be LITTLE doubt about a File on Whitechapel in those files, because they were investigating and crawling all over Whitechapel when the JTR stuff started!
The place was crawling with policemen!
A single killer would have to be a lone genius to be able to get away with that lot without help. 5 times!... Nope.. it doesn't add up.
I respect your views, but give credit where credit is due. This case IS UNSOLVED and will always remain so whilst the same old base of interpretation continues. Like it has for 121 years. Getting us precisely NOWHERE.
Happy New Year to you and your loved ones!
best wishes
Phil
Now I'm sorry,Last edited by Phil Carter; 12-31-2009, 09:18 PM.
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