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  • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    Hi bat thanks. So sorry for being so daft but:

    The map shows a red blob in the middle. This area is where we would most likely find his home/ where he was staying correct?
    Yes. Green areas are lesser probability and red the highest..
    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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    • Originally posted by Batman View Post
      Yes. Green areas are lesser probability and red the highest..
      Thank you batman. It might be cool to plot where some of the local suspects lived in relation to this.
      "Is all that we see or seem
      but a dream within a dream?"

      -Edgar Allan Poe


      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

      -Frederick G. Abberline

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      • https://www.casebook.org/ripper_medi...morley/79.html

        https://www.casebook.org/witnesses/w..._Hardiman.html

        https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-cousin.html
        Last edited by Batman; 11-21-2018, 06:54 PM.
        Bona fide canonical and then some.

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        • Originally posted by Batman View Post
          For JtR this looks like he was going back to where he was living. Doss houses were shut at that hour as were pubs. He would have to arrive home shortly after the time in which he murdered his victims and he would have to do so unchallengedly by others.

          I find the matter rather odd that such an individual wouldn't stand out with door to door searches given most houses in these areas had 30 odd people or more living in each one.
          Hi Batman. That's interesting. Robert Anderson did say a conclusion was drawn after the house-to-house search. That conclusion was that the killer was a lower-class Polish Jew living with his people, and that Jews of a certain lower-class would not give up one of their number to gentile justice. Obviously he was criticized harshly for stating this, and yes he may have been wrong, but given that there was a heavy population of lower-class Jews within the circle of murders, plus the murders were apparently committed in areas which had the greatest concentrations of lower-class Jews (there is an ordnance map I believe which shows this to be the case), plus the direction the Ripper travelled after killing Eddowes pointed back into that area, plus some witnesses described a Jewish looking suspect; and all of a sudden, Anderson's statement, apparently an anti-Semitic, bigoted and wreckless accusation, may actually have been a very reasonable deduction to have come to, by a man who, as he said, investigated the facts. And the result proved......

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          • Originally posted by J6123 View Post
            Hi Batman. That's interesting. Robert Anderson did say a conclusion was drawn after the house-to-house search. That conclusion was that the killer was a lower-class Polish Jew living with his people, and that Jews of a certain lower-class would not give up one of their number to gentile justice. Obviously he was criticized harshly for stating this, and yes he may have been wrong, but given that there was a heavy population of lower-class Jews within the circle of murders, plus the murders were apparently committed in areas which had the greatest concentrations of lower-class Jews (there is an ordnance map I believe which shows this to be the case), plus the direction the Ripper travelled after killing Eddowes pointed back into that area, plus some witnesses described a Jewish looking suspect; and all of a sudden, Anderson's statement, apparently an anti-Semitic, bigoted and wreckless accusation, may actually have been a very reasonable deduction to have come to, by a man who, as he said, investigated the facts. And the result proved......
            Inconclusive
            "Is all that we see or seem
            but a dream within a dream?"

            -Edgar Allan Poe


            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

            -Frederick G. Abberline

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            • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
              Inconclusive
              Yes, true. Very good �� But it's still a statement by a high-ranking police official who was in a position to know and who still didn't back down after being harshly criticized.

              Some of the higher ranking police and doctors said things about the Ripper and made quite accurate guesses, which suggest they had a surprisingly good insight into serial sexual murderers for that day and age.
              Last edited by J6123; 11-21-2018, 08:34 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                I find the matter rather odd that such an individual wouldn't stand out with door to door searches given most houses in these areas had 30 odd people or more living in each one.
                Even in those cases he might have been able to come and go as he pleased, if 29 Hanbury Street is anything to go by - front and back doors unlocked and open all night. There were also various courtyards (like Miller's) where he might have had a room of his own, with nobody posted to supervise egress and ingress.
                Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                  For JtR this looks like he was going back to where he was living. Doss houses were shut at that hour as were pubs. He would have to arrive home shortly after the time in which he murdered his victims and he would have to do so unchallengedly by others.

                  I find the matter rather odd that such an individual wouldn't stand out with door to door searches given most houses in these areas had 30 odd people or more living in each one.
                  If he was a visitor to the district all the above was/were not relevant.


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                  Clearly the first human laws (way older and already established) spawned organized religion's morality - from which it's writers only copied/stole,ex. you cannot kill,rob,steal (forced, otherwise people run back to the hills,no towns).
                  M. Pacana

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                  • James Hardiman

                    James Hardiman born in Mile End, Whitechapel, Dec 1859 making him 29 years of age in 1888.

                    Lived at 13 Heneage Street which is in the hot zone (Martha Tabram inclusive geoprofile) at the time of the crimes.

                    James Hardiman was a cat meat salesman (horse flesh bits on a skewer) and purveyor of horseflesh.

                    13 Heneage Street was near 29 Hanbury, where James had once lived. His mother, Harriett Hardiman, actually lived at 29 Hanbury street, on the ground floor, and was sleeping there the night Chapman was murdered in the garden. She appeared at the inquest.

                    James Hardiman's daughter Harriett, had died on 18 June 1888, from emaciation arising from nerve damage, caused by untreated congenital syphilis contracted from her mother, who died on 15 Sep 1888.

                    James Hardiman died on 22 Dec 1891 from tuberculosis.

                    A series starting with Tabram is less than two months after his daughter Harriett died.

                    In the days before Chapman's murder, his wife, Sarah, was dying. In the days after she died, Stride and Eddowes were murdered.

                    His death was 10 months after the murder of Francis Coles.

                    Being a horseflesh purveyor he may also have had connections to Barber's horse slaughterer's yard near where Nichols was found murdered.
                    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                    • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                      A series starting with Tabram is less than two months after his daughter Harriett died.
                      As is a series starting with Nichols.
                      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                      • Originally posted by Varqm View Post
                        If he was a visitor to the district all the above was/were not relevant.


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                        I totally agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!

                        www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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                        • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                          As is a series starting with Nichols.
                          Yes, it works with Nichols also.
                          Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                          • Originally posted by Varqm View Post
                            If he was a visitor to the district all the above was/were not relevant.
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                            You would have to explain that in light of the Goulston St., apron drop. A visitor would still have to have a place to stay.
                            Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                            • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                              Even in those cases he might have been able to come and go as he pleased, if 29 Hanbury Street is anything to go by - front and back doors unlocked and open all night. There were also various courtyards (like Miller's) where he might have had a room of his own, with nobody posted to supervise egress and ingress.
                              Bingo. If mary kelly could afford her own place like that than im sure the ripper, who was more than likely gamefully employed, could and did have his own place, however humble. As abberline said, it was unlikely they would find the ripper in a dossers kitchen.
                              "Is all that we see or seem
                              but a dream within a dream?"

                              -Edgar Allan Poe


                              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                              -Frederick G. Abberline

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                              • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                                James Hardiman born in Mile End, Whitechapel, Dec 1859 making him 29 years of age in 1888.

                                Lived at 13 Heneage Street which is in the hot zone (Martha Tabram inclusive geoprofile) at the time of the crimes.

                                James Hardiman was a cat meat salesman (horse flesh bits on a skewer) and purveyor of horseflesh.

                                13 Heneage Street was near 29 Hanbury, where James had once lived. His mother, Harriett Hardiman, actually lived at 29 Hanbury street, on the ground floor, and was sleeping there the night Chapman was murdered in the garden. She appeared at the inquest.

                                James Hardiman's daughter Harriett, had died on 18 June 1888, from emaciation arising from nerve damage, caused by untreated congenital syphilis contracted from her mother, who died on 15 Sep 1888.

                                James Hardiman died on 22 Dec 1891 from tuberculosis.

                                A series starting with Tabram is less than two months after his daughter Harriett died.

                                In the days before Chapman's murder, his wife, Sarah, was dying. In the days after she died, Stride and Eddowes were murdered.

                                His death was 10 months after the murder of Francis Coles.

                                Being a horseflesh purveyor he may also have had connections to Barber's horse slaughterer's yard near where Nichols was found murdered.
                                Very interesting batman.
                                I put this type candidate in the same boat as the jacob levy.

                                That same boat being imtriguing not really a serious suspect. But the type that we very well could be looking for.
                                Last edited by Abby Normal; 11-22-2018, 05:56 AM.
                                "Is all that we see or seem
                                but a dream within a dream?"

                                -Edgar Allan Poe


                                "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                                quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                                -Frederick G. Abberline

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