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  • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
    Jacob Levy lived slap-bang in the middle of Ripper territory, was a butcher, engaged in petty crime (theft), was committed to an asylum as a maniac in 1890 and died from complications of a sexually transmitted disease shortly thereafter. Furthermore, he was of moderate height and aged in his early 30s at the time of the Ripper murders, which compares reasonably well with many witness descriptions of the potential killer.

    That's a far more potent list of ingredients than most Ripper suspects can boast.
    He has no links to the case nevertheless.

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    • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

      Now that all being said-my issue with Jacob levy is this--what more really is he than another crazy jew in a long line of crazy jews put forth by the "profile" of Anderson and his suspect kosminski? and I agree with sam, kosminski is named by swanson AND McNaughten-no evidence of any mix up. I abhor the convoluted name mix up theories. mere muddle upon muddle IMHO.

      Swanson can't be correct. Kozminski was alive when Swanson wrote he was dead. Levy was dead though.

      McNaughten is mostly learning the case from reading reports and learning from others as he wasn't there. So for all intents and purposes, McNaughton is copying what others are saying.

      Kozminski was probably a suspect.

      Anderson mentions a suspect who was a low-class Polish Jew. Doesn't name him.

      Swanson says it was Kozminski and then gives us some wrong details.
      Bona fide canonical and then some.

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      • Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
        He has no links to the case nevertheless.
        None of the suspects have direct evidence implicating them except for Kozminski who has a witness identification again him. Back then witness identification would be considered direct evidence against someone. Today it is still a valid form of evidence.

        When we talk about these matters we talk about direct evidence and circumstantial evidence.

        If Levy was brought to court, all those matters we have discussed so far are circumstantial evidence that would be used against him.

        Obviously far more is needed to prove he is JtR.

        However a strong candidate he is because of several lines of circumstantial pointing at him.
        Bona fide canonical and then some.

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        • Originally posted by Batman View Post
          In general mental illness has no relationship to crime what-so-ever.

          However, if we read the specifics about a person's case, we may find elements that point to violence.

          For Levy, this is what was said by King in his article...

          Additional observations during his term at Stone was that his wife had complained that he almost ruined her business: "he also feels that if he is not restrained he will do some violence to someone; he complains about hearing strange noises; cries for no reason; feels compelled to do acts that his conscience cannot stand; and has a conscience of a feeling of exaltation". His wife also revealed that he was formerly a shrewd businessman and that "he does not sleep at nights and wanders around aimlessly for hours".

          I think an investigator upon reading that would find it another thing that points at Levy at not away from him.
          actually batman
          the history of serial killers point to a post mortem type serial killer as not being publically known to be violent or having a violent criminal police record and or abusive toward their victims of choice: Dahmer, Gein, bundy,brudos etc.


          known overt physical abuse-thug types-usually don't tend to be the post mortem mutilater kind.
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
            Jacob Levy lived slap-bang in the middle of Ripper territory, was a butcher, engaged in petty crime (theft), was committed to an asylum as a maniac in 1890 and died from complications of a sexually transmitted disease shortly thereafter. Furthermore, he was of moderate height and aged in his early 30s at the time of the Ripper murders, which compares reasonably well with many witness descriptions of the potential killer.

            That's a far more potent list of ingredients than most Ripper suspects can boast.
            no linky no ticky
            "Is all that we see or seem
            but a dream within a dream?"

            -Edgar Allan Poe


            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

            -Frederick G. Abberline

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            • Originally posted by Batman View Post
              None of the suspects have direct evidence implicating them except for Kozminski who has a witness identification again him. Back then witness identification would be considered direct evidence against someone. Today it is still a valid form of evidence.

              When we talk about these matters we talk about direct evidence and circumstantial evidence.

              If Levy was brought to court, all those matters we have discussed so far are circumstantial evidence that would be used against him.

              Obviously far more is needed to prove he is JtR.

              However a strong candidate he is because of several lines of circumstantial pointing at him.
              Jacob Levy would never be brought to court, though, would he? And the reason is simple enough and already divulged - he has absolutely nothing linking him to the case as such.
              He is therefore NOT a strong candidate at all, he is instead somebody who ticks some people's boxes, that's all.
              There are plenty of people who DO have a connection to the case, but Levy is not one of them.

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              • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                no linky no ticky
                Short and sweet, Abby.

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                • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                  Swanson can't be correct. Kozminski was alive when Swanson wrote he was dead. Levy was dead though.

                  McNaughten is mostly learning the case from reading reports and learning from others as he wasn't there. So for all intents and purposes, McNaughton is copying what others are saying.

                  Kozminski was probably a suspect.

                  Anderson mentions a suspect who was a low-class Polish Jew. Doesn't name him.

                  Swanson says it was Kozminski and then gives us some wrong details.
                  don't buy it-all these higher ups made mistakes on details. to get a name like kosminski mixed up-nah.

                  two police name him.and specific events involving him.

                  the suspect was kosminsky not levy, or cohen. Kosminsky.

                  end of.
                  "Is all that we see or seem
                  but a dream within a dream?"

                  -Edgar Allan Poe


                  "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                  quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                  -Frederick G. Abberline

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                  • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                    actually batman
                    the history of serial killers point to a post mortem type serial killer as not being publically known to be violent or having a violent criminal police record and or abusive toward their victims of choice: Dahmer, Gein, bundy,brudos etc.


                    known overt physical abuse-thug types-usually don't tend to be the post mortem mutilater kind.
                    Serial Killers having a mental illness does not make the mentally ill serial killers.

                    That's the point I want to get across.
                    Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                    • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                      None of the suspects have direct evidence implicating them except for Kozminski who has a witness identification again him. Back then witness identification would be considered direct evidence against someone. Today it is still a valid form of evidence.

                      When we talk about these matters we talk about direct evidence and circumstantial evidence.

                      If Levy was brought to court, all those matters we have discussed so far are circumstantial evidence that would be used against him.

                      Obviously far more is needed to prove he is JtR.

                      However a strong candidate he is because of several lines of circumstantial pointing at him.
                      circumstantial evidence has to be evidence directly tied to an individual, not some nebulous profile.
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                        no linky no ticky
                        Michael Ostrog has a link to the case. He was named by a senior policeman.

                        Does that make him a stronger suspect than Levy, even though we know it was impossible for Ostrog to have carried out the murders?

                        How many serial killers have "links" to the case before they are identified?

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                        • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                          Serial Killers having a mental illness does not make the mentally ill serial killers.

                          That's the point I want to get across.
                          No ****, batman

                          I said nothing about mental illness.

                          you brought up violence.

                          that's what I was responding to.
                          "Is all that we see or seem
                          but a dream within a dream?"

                          -Edgar Allan Poe


                          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                          -Frederick G. Abberline

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                          • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                            don't buy it-all these higher ups made mistakes on details. to get a name like kosminski mixed up-nah.

                            two police name him.and specific events involving him.

                            the suspect was kosminsky not levy, or cohen. Kosminsky.

                            end of.
                            Swanson talks about the specific event of his death... while he was still alive.

                            So he can't be right, can he?
                            Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                            • Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                              No ****, batman

                              I said nothing about mental illness.

                              you brought up violence.

                              that's what I was responding to.
                              I was most certainly talking about mental illness though.

                              Here it is again...

                              In general mental illness has no relationship to crime what-so-ever.

                              However, if we read the specifics about a person's case, we may find elements that point to violence.

                              For Levy, this is what was said by King in his article...

                              Additional observations during his term at Stone was that his wife had complained that he almost ruined her business: "he also feels that if he is not restrained he will do some violence to someone; he complains about hearing strange noises; cries for no reason; feels compelled to do acts that his conscience cannot stand; and has a conscience of a feeling of exaltation". His wife also revealed that he was formerly a shrewd businessman and that "he does not sleep at nights and wanders around aimlessly for hours".

                              I think an investigator upon reading that would find it another thing that points at Levy at not away from him.
                              Bona fide canonical and then some.

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                              • Originally posted by Batman View Post
                                Serial Killers having a mental illness does not make the mentally ill serial killers.
                                So when did somebody suggest that this was so? Why bring it up when nobody champions the idea?

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