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  • Monty
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5414

    #181
    Originally posted by DVV View Post
    Hi Neil

    Looks as if you were not wholly convinced.
    God knows why.

    Cheers
    I think a few more people than God knows.

    Monty
    Monty

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    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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    • Jon Guy
      Assistant Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 3156

      #182
      Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
      Thanks John
      Out of the three only Mckenzie IMHO is possible as a ripper victim. And even if she was, he might have been interrupted by the cop before he took it.
      True, Abby.

      I just didn`t want the open minded to think we were sheltering in our Canonical Bunker ;-)

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      • Monty
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 5414

        #183
        Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
        Well that's par for the course you contradicting anything I say you just cant help it can you ?

        So now in 5 mins he even had time to rifle her pockets come on get real.

        How do you exactly know what type of dress or pockets any of the victims had in their clothes in any event.

        And besides the killer stabbed Eddowes and cut her from the waistband twice downwards and once across.

        Take your blinkers off !
        As long as you keep stating ill informed opinion then yeah, I will contradict you.

        5 minutes is ample time.

        I know common Victorian period attire for that area. Ive done my research.

        I suggest you do.

        Monty
        Monty

        https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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        • lynn cates
          Commisioner
          • Aug 2009
          • 13841

          #184
          "Who buys the drinks?"

          Hello Ally. Thanks.

          "I'm confused. What precisely do you think she was doing? I read back through the thread and you state here that she clearly wasn't returning home but you don't think she was soliciting either. So what was she doing? Taking a pleasure stroll?"

          In spite of her story about going home she proceeded at once to Mitre sq.

          To understand that action, I think one must first understand her other actions on Saturday afternoon. She was supposed to be headed to Bermondsey. Clearly, she did not go there. Instead, penniless, she got drunk. Who bought her drinks?

          What is your favourite story here? Happy to dialogue.

          Cheers.
          LC

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          • lynn cates
            Commisioner
            • Aug 2009
            • 13841

            #185
            excelsior

            Hello Jon. Thanks.

            "Do you mean one cut going up from the waistband?"

            I refer to the one which went upwards around the sternum.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • Ally
              WWotW
              • Feb 2008
              • 2554

              #186
              Dialogue implies both parties answer. For instance, I asked you what precisely you think she was doing. I am still not sure what exactly it is you think she was doing. You don't think she was prostituting, and you don't think she was returning home.

              So what do you think she was doing??

              Let all Oz be agreed;
              I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #187
                meeting

                Hello Ally. Thanks.

                Fair enough. I think she was meeting the chap who bought the drinks. I realise, of course, that this is speculative.

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • Ally
                  WWotW
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2554

                  #188
                  There could have been several chaps who bought the drinks. As in she met a couple of gents, earned her coin and bought her own drinks.

                  So to answer your question, who bought her drinks, she bought her own, with money she had earned.

                  Let all Oz be agreed;
                  I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                  • lynn cates
                    Commisioner
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13841

                    #189
                    earnings

                    Hello Ally. Thanks.

                    "she bought her own, with money she had earned."

                    Charring perhaps?

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • Colin Roberts
                      Detective
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 310

                      #190
                      Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                      Annie likely threw up the sponge earlier and went to sleep in the passage at #29.
                      A reasonable assumption, Lynn, which of course amounts to a belief that Chapman was not soliciting when she encountered her murderer.
                      Last edited by Colin Roberts; 07-03-2013, 02:01 PM.

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                      • Ally
                        WWotW
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2554

                        #191
                        More than likely, prostitution. And yes, I realize there is less evidence of her prostitution than the other victims, however, she somehow earned enough to get drunk between leaving Kelly and being arrested, and I imagine most guys weren't in the habit of handing out money to women for no apparent reason.

                        Let all Oz be agreed;
                        I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                        • Ally
                          WWotW
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2554

                          #192
                          Originally posted by Colin Roberts View Post
                          A reasonable assumption, Lynn, which of course amounts to a belief that Chapman was not soliciting when she encountered her murderer.
                          How is that a reasonable assumption? Long saw Chapman wide-awake and soliciting at around 5:30, and her body was discovered a half hour later. So how is it a reasonable assumption that she was sleeping and not soliciting when she meets her murderer?

                          Let all Oz be agreed;
                          I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                          • lynn cates
                            Commisioner
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 13841

                            #193
                            Yes.

                            Hello Colin. Thanks.

                            Very well. I think she had tried and failed early in the game.

                            Would she have said "no," however, to someone whom she thought were asking? (In other words, "Will you?" could have been understood as a come on?)

                            Cheers.
                            LC

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                            • lynn cates
                              Commisioner
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 13841

                              #194
                              fair exchange

                              Hello Ally. Thanks.

                              "More than likely, prostitution."

                              Fresh out of gaol?

                              "And yes, I realize there is less evidence of her prostitution than the other victims. . ."

                              I appreciate that.

                              ". . . however, she somehow earned enough to get drunk between leaving Kelly and being arrested. . . "

                              Not necessarily. Could have been bought for her.

                              ". . .and I imagine most guys weren't in the habit of handing out money to women for no apparent reason."

                              Indeed. But under what circumstances would one give another money? Many, perhaps?

                              Cheers.
                              LC

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                              • lynn cates
                                Commisioner
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 13841

                                #195
                                solicitation

                                Hello (again) Ally.

                                "Long saw Chapman wide-awake and soliciting at around 5:30. . ."

                                Long, I think, saw Chapman around 5.15. She may well have been (I think WAS) asked for something. She thought sex; she said yes.

                                Maybe not STRICTLY soliciting? But I think a transaction--of some sort--was occurring.

                                Cheers.
                                LC

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