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  • #31
    Originally posted by GBinOz View Post

    Were justice to prevail - unlikely in the US legal system.
    I'm anticipating a twist at the end, Trump did put three Judges in the Supreme Court, it's obvious he will expect them to keep the faith and forget justice.
    Regards, Jon S.

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    • #32
      The twist, I think, will be that Trump will cut a deal and then call reports of the deal "Fake News"

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      • #33
        Originally posted by caz View Post

        If my name was Fanny Willis, I'd change it first and listen second.

        Love,

        Caz
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        The name is spelled Fani and pronounced Fawnee.
        "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

        "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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        • #34
          It seems like some MAGA Republicans have a couple of plots up their sleeves.

          If Colorado gets their way by keeping Trump off the ticket to run for President, another Republican will run in his place, but name Trump as his vice-President running mate. Every Trump Republican can vote for that stand-in, if he gets elected, he will soon step down and hand the Presidency to Trump.

          Alternately, if Trump ends up in prison, the Republican who wins the Presidency can pardon Trump.

          There is also another rising group calling themselves "No-labels", who intend to run a Republican and a Democrat on the same ticket, one will be named for President, the other for vice-President. This group are selling themselves as the third alternative, but analysis of voting regions shows a third party to vote for would most likely put a Republican in the White House, and that could mean Trump.

          Regards, Jon S.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
            Alternately, if Trump ends up in prison, the Republican who wins the Presidency can pardon Trump.
            If Trump ends up in prison, he can still run for President. Labor leader Eugene Debs did it om 1920.

            US Presidents can only issue pardons for convictions in Federal Courts. That means if Trump is convicted in Georgia, he could not be pardoned by the US President. It would have to be done by the Governor of Georgia.

            "The full picture always needs to be given. When this does not happen, we are left to make decisions on insufficient information." - Christer Holmgren

            "Unfortunately, when one becomes obsessed by a theory, truth and logic rarely matter." - Steven Blomer

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Fiver View Post

              US Presidents can only issue pardons for convictions in Federal Courts. That means if Trump is convicted in Georgia, he could not be pardoned by the US President. It would have to be done by the Governor of Georgia.
              Actually, the Governor of Georgia can't pardon anyone. It's done by a State Board of Pardons and Paroles, and they don't have a good reputation for getting it done quickly, or even at all.
              Last edited by rjpalmer; 11-01-2023, 10:15 PM.

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              • #37
                Also, Eugene Debs was not imprisoned for insurrection, which is the charge against Trump.
                Regards, Jon S.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                  If Trump ends up in prison, he can still run for President. Labor leader Eugene Debs did it om 1920.

                  US Presidents can only issue pardons for convictions in Federal Courts. That means if Trump is convicted in Georgia, he could not be pardoned by the US President. It would have to be done by the Governor of Georgia.
                  Adventureland, Frontierland, Fantasyland and Tomorrowland.

                  To someone raised in a country based on the Westminster System, the American system of government resides in Fantasyland (certainly not Tomorrowland). When will the, arguably, most powerful country in the world decide that their political system, which was enacted to favour slave owners, needs a transfusion into the modern world.

                  Cheers, George
                  The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by rjpalmer View Post

                    Actually, the Governor of Georgia can't pardon anyone. It's done by a State Board of Pardons and Paroles, and they don't have a good reputation for getting it done quickly, or even at all.

                    In the case of Leo Frank, who was lynched and whose innocence was proven decades ago, they have taken 108 years so far.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                      The name is spelled Fani and pronounced Fawnee.
                      I'd still want to change it!
                      "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Wickerman View Post
                        It seems like some MAGA Republicans have a couple of plots up their sleeves.

                        If Colorado gets their way by keeping Trump off the ticket to run for President, another Republican will run in his place, but name Trump as his vice-President running mate. Every Trump Republican can vote for that stand-in, if he gets elected, he will soon step down and hand the Presidency to Trump.

                        Alternately, if Trump ends up in prison, the Republican who wins the Presidency can pardon Trump.

                        There is also another rising group calling themselves "No-labels", who intend to run a Republican and a Democrat on the same ticket, one will be named for President, the other for vice-President. This group are selling themselves as the third alternative, but analysis of voting regions shows a third party to vote for would most likely put a Republican in the White House, and that could mean Trump.
                        The No-Labels group, I've read, are funded by conservative "Dark Money groups" and are *not* an actual third alternative. I surmise they want to attract Unaffiliated and Independent voters, as well as disaffected Dems to unknowingly vote for a MAGA-friendly csndidate.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                          The name is spelled Fani and pronounced Fawnee.
                          huh? did I misspell her name? what was I thinking..?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fiver View Post

                            US Presidents can only issue pardons for convictions in Federal Courts. That means if Trump is convicted in Georgia, he could not be pardoned by the US President. It would have to be done by the Governor of Georgia.
                            Yes, you jogged my memory with that.
                            I do recall when Trump was President he was talking about pardoning himself, it came out that he could only pardon Federal crimes, not State crimes - I do recall that now, thanks.


                            Regards, Jon S.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by caz View Post

                              I'd still want to change it!
                              Speaking as a British man with the mind of a child about such things, I consider giving that name to your daughter immediately makes her selection of a future husband more of a consideration than for most others.
                              If, for instance she were to marry one of the Trump boys, this side of the Atlantic would suffer a minor earthquake due to the continued laughter.

                              In fact, in this dour and fractured society we currently inhabit, someone walking round with the name "Fanny Trump" would bring the UK back together in a way no one else currently has the capability to do.
                              (And the Americans would largely be oblivious as to why...)

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                                Ahem...
                                Thems the Vagaries.....

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