On The Trail Of The Forgers

[Sam Flynn]

Oh, but this is funny. Caz reckons I'm "middle-aged, short, fat, balding".

I'm sure those of you who have seen me can confirm that.

Ben is officially taller than Paul Whicker.

[Jane Welland]

Yeah, keep the comedy coming!

It's so entertaining!

[halomanuk]

Shall we get back to discussing the diary now peeps ?

You two are like a comedy double act - 'The Ben & Caz show'.
Episode 1 - Ben & Caz kick the **** out of each other.
Episode 2 - Ben & Caz kick the **** out of each other...and so on ....

[Ben]

Yeah Ben, you're just my type.

I know, and the fixation really shows.

If I'm a tranny magnet, and my magnetism is clearly working on you to an alarming degree, I'd guess that would make you a....?

Oh, but this is funny. Caz reckons I'm "middle-aged, short, fat, balding".

I'm sure those of you who have seen me can confirm that.

[caz]

Yeah Ben, you're just my type.

Or you would be, only I seem to have misplaced my meat and two veg...

For those not already in the know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranny_Magnet

Love,

Caz
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[Ben]

As usual, Ben, only in your own mind - and perhaps the odd poster who saw you coming and had you down as the hilarious Viz character Tranny Magnet.

I'm only a "magnet" inasmuch as I seem to attract the worst kind of message board irritant; the sort who can't go a day without mentioning me somewhere in some context.

[caz]

Thanks for the encouragement, but I think it has been satisfactorily established by now that the "misunderstandings" were simply the result of ignorance on your part, and that the "ridicule" was just additional reinforcement of that ignorance.

As usual, Ben, only in your own mind - and perhaps the odd poster who saw you coming and had you down as the hilarious Viz character Tranny Magnet.

Hi Victoria,

You have my fulsome praise for having the time to fanny around with crosswords.

My own philosophy is 'never a crossword' unless it's a Times or Telegraph cryptic one when I'm on the train with nothing better to do.

Love,

Caz
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[Victoria]

Hi Caz,

I have been reading your 'intellectual' .. exchanges/arguments with Ben
for my mornings entertainment here.
And more than entertainment, it could be even educating ..

I was totally with Ben on the meaning of fulsome, until I checked my own
dictionary .. not being an intellectual type myself, and it has both descriptions
of the word, well I never ..
I know someone who uses that word and it is always with the 'positive'
meaning, and he is not a 'pretentious twat'.
I now think it is best to avoid the word altogether.

I then moved onto the crossword 'puzzle' to get the grey matter going,
nearly had to do a .. 'ask the audience' a couple of times.
But perserverance paid off .. I have it finished, and if?? I have done it correctly,
I believe that you caz are one of the answers.

[Ben]

You go right ahead and invite as many misunderstandings and as much ridicule as you like in future with your posts.

Thanks for the encouragement, but I think it has been satisfactorily established by now that the "misunderstandings" were simply the result of ignorance on your part, and that the "ridicule" was just additional reinforcement of that ignorance.

[caz]

Hi Ben,

You go right ahead and invite as many misunderstandings and as much ridicule as you like in future with your posts. I promise to try not to shed any tears for you.

So you don't think he's the ripper?

Great.

By George, I think he's got it. Only took several years of enjoying the sound of his own voice too much to hear what anyone else was actually saying.

Love,

Caz
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PS Wonder where Stevie Baby is - we seem to have frightened him off and attracted one of Mike Barrett's dreadful word puzzles instead. He once tried to publish a smutty version of one of those 'my first is in... but not in...' riddles, but he had two too many clues and finished up with an 'organism' by mistake.

[Steve Powell]

Diarywords.

Howdy Troopers,
Something to do besides reading Caz's blag.

[Ben]

Have it your way, but in the past I have only seen pretentious twats use a word like 'fulsome' when they just mean 'comprehensive' or 'abundant'.

It's not my way.

It's the dictionary definition, and the fact that you haven't seen it applied in that context very often by anyone other than "pretentious twats" is more indicative of your limited knowledge than anything else, and it is made all the more painful in this case because you had the option to conceal that limited knowledge when you tried to score points against me last time, rather than dredging up your ignorance all over again. I don't mind being "ridiculed" by the ignorant, but I'm afraid there's no helping you if you think that "comprehensive" or "encompassing all aspects" is "traditionally pejorative", except to caution against starting bicker-fests with Ben in future.

They tend not to work out terribly well for the aggressors.

I have posted over and over again that Maybrick wasn't a toff and he shouldn't be a suspect

So you don't think he's the ripper?

Great.

[caz]

Hi Ben,

Have it your way, but in the past I have only seen pretentious twats use a word like 'fulsome' when they just mean 'comprehensive' or 'abundant'. I would not expect any decent scholar to use it to imply sincere praise - ever. Given its ambiguous nature and traditionally pejorative connotations, it's a word that is far better avoided if one doesn't want to invite misunderstandings or ridicule.

And another thing...

I have posted over and over again that Maybrick wasn't a toff and he shouldn't be a suspect. So if I see you lying once more about me favouring either a toff suspect or James Maybrick for the role of the ripper (and anyone with any class at all would know that the two are mutually exclusive) I will be only too happy to 'remind' your readers about your own agenda - that George Hutchinson murdered Mary Kelly by royal command.

Fair enough?

Love,

Caz
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[Ben]

Anyway, I stole most of the content of my little parody from you, Ben

...And succeeded in stealing from my perfectly decent rhyme (where the meter was correct and everything) and incorporating it into an unsuccessful attempt to bring me down a peg or two that ended up getting puked back in your face.

Congratulations.

Once again, 'fulsome praise' always implies sickeningly false flattery (or nauseatingly slimy toadying, or vile and shameless sycophancy - take your pick),

Oh good, we're doing this again.

It'll just take me a moment to dredge up my swift destruction of your failed attempt at identifying errors....

Here it is!:

“Fulsome”, as any idiot will appreciate, can mean “excessively lavish”. It can also mean “comprehensive" or “encompassing all aspects”. I therefore used the word in its correct context when discussing Martin’s views of Iremonger’s contributions. He “encompassed all aspects” of Iremonger’s praiseworthy aspects, and was lavish in his praise of her. When it comes to the poster I was debating with at the time, congratulations for consulting your thesaurus, because it taught you that it can also mean “disgusting; sickening; repulsive”. So in that context, too, it was correctly applied. Back we go to the sentence: “you do care what I think, otherwise you wouldn't keep responding in so venomous and fulsome a fashion", where you'll see it applies perfectly.

And there we go. The word “fulsome” was used in its correct context both times.

Further examples of your obsessions and insecurities are welcome.

Smooches,

Ben
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[caz]

I expect credit in future if people want to use my comedy.

Is that what it was?

Anyway, I stole most of the content of my little parody from you, Ben. That was the point of it. So if you want to take full credit be my guest.

I have no idea what Fido said, but I know for a fact that your criticism was wrong, and by referring to your clumsiness over and over, you sink deeper and deeper into the mire of your own making, despite assuring me that you were the spider who was about to "undo" me.

Once again, 'fulsome praise' always implies sickeningly false flattery (or nauseatingly slimy toadying, or vile and shameless sycophancy - take your pick), so if you wanted to express the opposite you should have said that Martin was genuinely impressed with Sue Iremonger's work. As it is, your readers were perfectly entitled to take away from your choice of words the unfortunate image of poor old Martin laying on insincere and excessive adulation with a trowel, while half way up poor Sue Iremonger's arse.

Confucius probably had this covered.

Thesaurus no bloody use to ass.

Undone fly not noticed with head in cloud-cuckoo-land.



Love,

Caz
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