On The Trail Of The Forgers

[Ben]

I meant to say the following, Graham:

So, in other words, anyone who lies about their behaviour (as per Caz's observation) and is addicted drugs deserves to be the subject of a hoax journal accusing them of being a serial killer?

Regards,
Ben

[Graham]

Ben,

So, in other words, anyone who lies about their addiction to drugs deserves to be the subject of a hoax journal accusing them of being a serial killer?

Why do you suggest that Maybrick lied about his drug-addiction? It seems that he was completely open about it, which you would see if you took time read something about the Maybrick Case.

Cheers,

Graham

[halomanuk]

Steve,your post count has gone up to 49.
Looks like your post counter is working finally !

[Steve Powell]

Pluck off...

Ben said to Caroline:

Where did you pluck this one from?

Same place she plucks everything else Ben.

Caroline said:

Sorry Victoria, I'm bored now..

I can tell you Caz/Caroline,
You are the only boring thing on my thread,
Pluck off, your fired.
And don't come back until you learn some manners.

[Ben]

Ooh look who's just walked into the spider's web - the fly ready to be undone.

And who'd be the "spider" in this equation - you?

I'm just loving the belligerent terminology, as though it were designed to intimidate. I think you know full well that this isn't going to work too successfully against me as a debating strategy.

Although I don't condone what the diary author did, I can hear the whisper: "What goes around comes around".

So, in other words, anyone who lies about their addiction to drugs deserves to be the subject of a hoax journal accusing them of being a serial killer?

There are indications that Hutch did nothing much more than find himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, hoping to doss down in Mary's room, and having to wait outside because another man - possibly the WM himself - was in residence.

What do you mean "having" to wait outside?

Where did you pluck this one from?

He didn't "have" to wait outside at all. He was free as a bird to gain entry into the lodging house that he was apparenty leaning against. He was free to gain entry into the lodging house kitchen of the Victoria Home. There was ample opportunity to secure a roof over his head from the cold and rain if he so desired. I wonder, if Dennis Rader was caught discreetly monitering the Otero household from a vantage point, how many people would give him the green light if he defended his behaviour on the grounds that "Duh, I'm just watching and waiting for the scary man who's in there". Or if Robert Napper used the same transparent excuse when he was seen outside the home of Samantha Bisset?

Don't make anti-Hutchinson antagonistic remarks in the middle of an unrelated thread.

It really isn't in your best interests. Trust me.

[caz]

Ooh look who's just walked into the spider's web - the fly ready to be undone.

There are no indications that Maybrick killed anyone but himself. There are indications that he was directly involved in his own alleged murder, and lied about his own behaviour which led up to his death, and had the immediate effect of plunging his widow and children into a personal living hell that was not of their own making. Although I don't condone what the diary author did, I can hear the whisper: "What goes around comes around".

There are no indications that Hutchinson ever killed anyone, or did not live on long after the Whitechapel Murderer was history. There are indications that Hutch did nothing much more than find himself in the wrong place at the wrong time, hoping to doss down in Mary's room, and having to wait outside because another man - possibly the WM himself - was in residence.

What goes around comes around.

Can you hear it, Ben?

Love,

Caz
X

[Ben]

The condemnation doesn't end with a few words. In the Cases of Hutchinson and Maybrick, they have been immortalized in book and other print as killers, though there is no case against them.

Well....

There are indications that Hutchinson, who was directly involved in the investigation into the Whitechapel murders, lied about his behaviour near a crime scene after he realised he'd been seen, and Maybrick was an arsenic-addicted cotton merchant from Liverpool who was the subject of a relatively recently hoaxed diary.

Lump them into the same category, by all means, but it will be at the expense of your own credibility, I'm afraid.

[The Good Michael]

Caz,

You know you bring up a good point. It's one thing to fashion as story about a known murderer as Jack the Ripper, but a completely different one when people who have done nothing wrong as far as we know, are condemned as "likely" suspects. The condemnation doesn't end with a few words. In the Cases of Hutchinson and Maybrick, they have been immortalized in book and other print as killers, though there is no case against them. That's why I'm on a mission from God now.

Cheers,

Mike

[caz]

Caz,

That was especially poignant. Would you mind writing Hutchinson's eulogy? I don't think he has been treated fairly.

Cheers,

Mike

I'm already on the case, GM.

When a certain Hutch fingerer who shall remain nameless sees extracts from the anonymous 63 page Diary of a Hutch Ripper that I'm currently creat - ahem - about to "discover" in his dressing room, I wonder if he will recognise it as a personal hell of his own making - ie something akin to what Stevie Baby is doing all by himself, to himself.

Not to mention something that someone once did to James Maybrick.

I love parody*, me. I'm getting a real feel for the Punch that can be delivered with it.

Catch me when you can.

Sorry, Victoria, I'm bored now. You just went off the boil - like Boyle.

Love,

Caz
X

[*parody: a burlesque or satirical imitation; an imitation so poor as to seem a deliberate mockery of the original.

burlesque: a ludicrous imitation; a piece of literature, of acting, or other performance that mocks its original by grotesque exaggeration or by combining the dignified with the low or the familiar.

Only just saw the second definition and it couldn't have expressed any better what I have had on my mind for quite a while now, probably thanks to the actor and the Welshman. ]

[Victoria]

Why thank you Caz,

for voting me into the semi-finals, I do so appreciate your vote.

I am a little concerned if just say for some reason I had misrepresented myself
and 'fooled' you again .. meaning here that if I were really Stevie Baby and that there
is no such entity as Victoria.
Not that this might be the case of course, I am only speaking hyperthetically.
Would I be disqualified or could it possibly add to my talent count?
Whoever I really am, I am either not sure, or undecided at present ..
But I do promise not to 'do' anyone else, because once you start ... that
created character assumes a life of it's own and just doesn't give up.

[The Good Michael]

Caz,

That was especially poignant. Would you mind writing Hutchinson's eulogy? I don't think he has been treated fairly.

Cheers,

Mike

[caz]

Hi Stevie Baby,

I'd have thought you'd be thrilled to hear that Victoria hero-worships you so much that she can write just like you. Oh well. There's no pleasing some people.

Have you only lies to tell
about Feldy and Keith Skinner?
Is yours a lonely soul
with no proof to give
just words of spite,
a bitter twisted rage?
Who used your stunted mind
to harden your rotten heart?
Ah, but if you could only know
how much your 'truth' needs help,
maybe your blinkers would slide away
and you could see who's the fool.
Your filth can only consume you
until you wish you could turn back time.

Love,

Caz
X

[Steve Powell]

For lost Caroline.

Have you nothing good to say?
Is yours a lonely soul
with nothing more to give
than words of spite,
a giggling gleeful rage?
Who hurt your weary heart
and blunted your sharpened mind?
Ah, but if you could only hear
your silent screams of help,
maybe your scorn would melt away
and you could dance once again like before.
Your pain will only consume you
until you eventually disappear.

Steve Powell

[caz]

Hi Victoria,

Very many congrats. This latest post of yours shows me what a genuine talent you have for imitating another poster's writing style - in this case Stevie Baby's, and to absolute perfection. I'd have been totally fooled if you hadn't used your own name on this one.

I just hope you will stick to impersonating the one male poster in future and not try to extend your talents to 'do' anyone else. That's quite a weapon you were concealing, if I may say so.

Well done, you are sailing through to the semi-finals.

Love,

Amanda Holdon-Too
X

PS Whoops - got a bit carried away there and thought I was judging "Britain's Got Talent". Of course, it's "Who's Got Talent Down Under?"

[Victoria]

The Game is up ..

Okay Stevie Baby,

This has gone on for far too long .. Tom is questioning who you are, even Caz
has seen through the facade.

I want you to tell the Troopers that you don't exist, you are just my alter ego ...

For my part,
It has been hard being two people here and it takes up too much of my precious book writing time.
I must reflect on why I have done this ..
It is a common practise to write a book under a pseudonym .. is it not?

It has to be this way Stevie Baby, cause I ain't giving up my identity ...
even for you. Though I do love your name, well of course I do because I chose it .. but you really only exist in my mind.
I think your talking of the post count was the final giveaway.
I have tried to support you here .. so much that it has become far too obvious,
but you are not winning many friends nor influencing many people .. except me of course, so I will just go on alone.
As consolation to you though .. I will use your name for my book, I do like it's sound.

best regards,
your other self