EU Vote

[Robert]

Aha! Why am I not surprised?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/683115/Brexit-petition-EU-vote-Remain

[Robert]

Caz, if you want to compare prisons, look at the history.

1973 - taken into the 'Common Market' without consultation.
1975 - referendum on membership delivers a 2-1 majority for staying in.

And then.....and then....41 years later, we're allowed another vote. Dire predictions of World War Three, economic collapse, a punitive budget from Georgie Boy if we dare to vote the 'wrong' way, threat that the Germans won't acknowledge Geoff Hurst's goal in 1966 - and we just shade it.

Which 'prison' do you think that it's easier to leave?

[caz]

Hi Caz

Well, I'm out of the Village but there's a hearse driving up and down outside and a bloke carrying an umbrella when it isn't raining, so I'll keep you posted.

I feel more like the Prisoner now, in our self-imposed solitary confinement, with Boris as Number Two.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

My daughter is feeling very miserable today. She says the atmosphere in her Islington office is like someone died. Being a European in Europe is, of course, all she has ever known.

Love,

Caz
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[Robert]

Hi Caz

Well, I'm out of the Village but there's a hearse driving up and down outside and a bloke carrying an umbrella when it isn't raining, so I'll keep you posted.

[caz]

Some remainers are actually nice people, Robert.

Just as some leavers probably do believe things can only get better.

Love,

Caz
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[Robert]

Well they may wait and then have another referendum once some of those terrible old white men have dropped off the perch. The Remainers are such nice people :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/labour-mp-declares-older-white-8091039

[caz]

The wimp has resigned, can't even do the job he was elected to do...

I'm no fan of Cameron, but he did warn everyone of the likely economic repercussions of leaving, and the Brexit conspiracy theorists thought this was just a scaremongering lie. It's not a lie that the pound has done a huge belly flop. They were also all set to accuse MI5 of fixing the vote (FFS) when they feared it might go the other way.

Cameron gave us all a say in the matter, but wanted us to remain, so I'm not sure I blame him for giving someone else the unenviable task of steering us through our uncertain future. Someone should have told Boris to be careful what he wished for.

I'm depressed for the younger generation but this is democracy.

Love,

Caz
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[MsWeatherwax]

Surely North Sea oil contracts were signed off by Great Britain as a whole not specifically Scotland, which was and still is part of the United Kingdom? When and if Scotland becomes a sovereign and independent nation then the contracts would have to be renegotiated, one would think.

As an ex Pom, and an Aussie of many decades standing I don't really have a direct interest anymore. However, most of my extended family still in Britain voted to stay in the EU, mainly because they come from rural counties and EU subsidies have greatly assisted British farming interests. I hope things go well for Britain but it does face a very uncertain future.

Quite. The small (well, rapidly expanding now) town that I live in was pretty much brought back from the brink by EU investment and grants.

I'm a little bit surprised by quite how sad I am that we've done this. The mood at work today is bleak to say the least...

[Karl]

Well, that's it, then. To quote Beethoven: "Pom pom pom pooooom!"

[Robert]

This is democracy. Maybe I missed it, but in 1975, during our first referendum, no one said that the result would be binding for all eternity, until the Day of Judgment or until Sandie Shaw learned to sing.

Across the EU there is increasing Euroscepticism. This is often led by what its detractors regard as 'far-right' parties. The reason it's led by 'far-right' parties is that the 'respectable' parties refuse to lead it. Well, if 'respectable' parties abdicate their responsibility to represent their people, they can hardly be surprised if their people go elsewhere.

[Geddy2112]

Leave it is.. by over 1 million votes.

What will it mean for the PM.?

The wimp has resigned, can't even do the job he was elected to do...

[Rosella]

Surely North Sea oil contracts were signed off by Great Britain as a whole not specifically Scotland, which was and still is part of the United Kingdom? When and if Scotland becomes a sovereign and independent nation then the contracts would have to be renegotiated, one would think.

As an ex Pom, and an Aussie of many decades standing I don't really have a direct interest anymore. However, most of my extended family still in Britain voted to stay in the EU, mainly because they come from rural counties and EU subsidies have greatly assisted British farming interests. I hope things go well for Britain but it does face a very uncertain future.

[jason_c]

Yes I do actually. The pound has already fallen to its lowest level since 1985 and chaos is likely when the stock market opens in 5 minutes. My pension-fund is tied up in there. The last crisis in 2008 already set me back by about 5 years. Scotland meanwhile have already indicated that they want another independence referendum, so there is a real possibility that they will take their north-sea oil with them. The next 18 months are going to be really interesting.

Scotland will not be taking it's North Sea oil anywhere until the oil price doubles.

[Svensson]

Well, IT and BBC calling it 'Out'.

Prob know for sure in the morning but this decision, although I am not over there, seems wonderful to me.

Mind if I say congratulations?

Yes I do actually. The pound has already fallen to its lowest level since 1985 and chaos is likely when the stock market opens in 5 minutes. My pension-fund is tied up in there. The last crisis in 2008 already set me back by about 5 years. Scotland meanwhile have already indicated that they want another independence referendum, so there is a real possibility that they will take their north-sea oil with them. The next 18 months are going to be really interesting.