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  • Robert
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    Bullshit when will people realise we are an Island with an economy that is miniscule when compared to China and the U.S. We would be more powerful in a united Europe.

    Tell it to the Greeks.

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  • Fleetwood Mac
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    Bullshit when will people realise we are an Island with an economy that is miniscule when compared to China and the U.S. We would be more powerful in a united Europe.
    How exactly does this power that comes with being part of the European Union manifest itself?

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  • jason_c
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    Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
    Hi all,

    As one of the few ex-pats on this site that lives in Europe but outside the EU, after 35 years as such I reckon I might just know exactly what would happen to the UK if they voted OUT.

    Nothing at all. Nothing drastic. Nothing nasty.
    The pound may wobble at first..but wouls settle fown after a while (like the Euro did..remember?)

    Both Iceland and here in Norway..people voted "thanks. .but no thanks"..in Norway's case..twice.
    They both have good economies.
    Norway is the 2nd richest country on the planet. Rvery last kroner of their substantial oil and gas money wrnt into the Norwegian system...With very very much saved..earning masses of interest over the years. It eould not have been that way if Norway was in the EU.....

    Fear not GB. You will survive. The only thing that Brits have always been world beaters at..throughout history...is changing the way things are..have been...It was the same rubbish spewed out when the old £sd was abandon for the new penny system. All kinds of worries were forecast. They didnt happen.
    Brits are afraid of change. Same old same old. And all of you living in the UK.. from the outside..this vote is seen as refreshingly good. 42% of Danes now want a referendum.

    The EU have a problem..if Britain pull out..others may follow. And that means?

    No german "empire".

    Shame eh?



    Phil
    Spot on. The economic consequences of an out vote will be minimal. We'll lose out in some areas and gain in others. I suspect most of the scare-mongerers know this. The major consequences shall be political.

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by Fleetwood Mac View Post
    Absolute nonsense.
    Bullshit when will people realise we are an Island with an economy that is miniscule when compared to China and the U.S. We would be more powerful in a united Europe.

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  • Fleetwood Mac
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    Originally posted by Ginger View Post
    The last time Germany went off the rails it took the entire British Empire, the old Soviet Union, and the United States to stop them, and it was close at that. I really don't want to see them heading up a united Europe.
    In this instance the pen really is mightier than the sword.

    At the outbreak of WW1, German war aims consisted of a few things but one of them was a Western Continental European customs union ran by Germany. Not too far removed from what we have today.

    I don't want to be unkind, nor do I want to suggest that Germany is inherently more war inclined than the rest of us because that would be untrue.

    But, all of this was borne out of pessimism and fear, particularly on the part of the French. To me, the opportunities we gain from leaving the EU far exceed the potential consequences. The Germans are simply exercising a natural position in the event of a European super-state: they will inevitably be the dominant partner.

    We will not leave this time because English people are inherently conservative and don't like change. But, we will leave at some point; it is inevitable. I would say 10 to 15 years.

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