Hammersmith Nude Murders (Stripper)

[Robert]

Trev, maybe that would be best done by a woman.

[Neil Milkins]

Hi Robert. It has already been done by a woman. Former Detective Chief Inspector Jackie Malton.

[Trevor Marriott]

Well she clearly didnt ask the right questions did she ?

let me ask you two more questions

What new evidence/facts were obtained between the 2011 prog and the current prog to justfiy a remake, and why was the case not referred to the police in 2011?

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[Neil Milkins]

Hi Trevor. See my post below dated 22-2-19.
02-22-2019, 08:00 PM
Hi Trevor. Your questions can only be answered by the Met. and hopefully will be answered soon. The programme correctly stated that the paint samples came from Shaw an Kilburn. (My post from 22-2-2019.( I do know now what I didn't know before regarding a car. However you will glean no more information from me.

[Robert]

Trev, I meant a woman to woman situation. No one else present.

[caz]

Trev, I meant a woman to woman situation. No one else present.

I'd be up for that, Robert. Not that I'm a professional interviewer, but I lived through the sixties like Jones's daughter did, and went to school in Hammersmith [although I lived south of the river in Southfields], so I could jog the sort of memories that she and many others might not have thought about.

Yes he committed two murders of young girls when he was 15, the girls were much younger than him. Were these later victims young girls of that age no they were not.

Trevor, I don't think it's a big deal that Jones killed girls younger than himself when he was fifteen. He could have picked on them - one was eight, the other eleven - because they were easy to overpower. He doesn't look big and strong in the photos of him taken at the time. If he was JtS he again picked on females younger than himself at the time, who would have been relatively easy to overpower. So it doesn't follow that he would have preyed on young girls when he was in his fifties if he still had the urge to kill.

Love,

Caz
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[Robert]

Yes, it did occur to me that a child killer would have continued to kill children and not adults. But then I took into consideration that Jones himself was little more than a child at the time, and may not have had the physical and psychological confidence to tackle a woman.

[caz]

Yes, it did occur to me that a child killer would have continued to kill children and not adults. But then I took into consideration that Jones himself was little more than a child at the time, and may not have had the physical and psychological confidence to tackle a woman.

And of course, had he been old enough himself, he'd have hanged.

[Neil Milkins]

Hi Caz and Robert. You have to bear in mind that Jones' "taste" for females changed or alternated to women as he married a woman. I don't believe his interest was just in women as South Wales Police are linking him to the murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. This murder was committed 4 months after he was demobbed from the army in Libya. It doesn't take much to work out that as Jones told the prison authorities just before he was released from prison in 1941 that he "did not want to lose the desire to kill," then he would kill again. Then they arm him with a rifle and let him loose on the Libyans for 5 years. How many Libyans did he kill "for pleasure."

[Robert]

Hi Neil

I wonder if Jones's daughter would consent to a DNA test.

Yes, no telling how many people he may have killed in the war, plus he may have come back with a syndrome - I can't remember what it's called, but Vietnam vets were supposed to suffer with it - an addiction to danger, or something like that.

[Neil Milkins]

Hi Robert. I don't know what syndrome Harold Shipman suffered with to kill all the people that he did but I believe Jones' was self-inflicted with the same syndrome and possibly killed more people than Shipman. Muriel's killer left D.N.A. at the scene. However the killer has a Y -STR profile which means only a male relative of Jones can be tested to match the killer. I have been unable to ascertain whether the male relative refers to a son only or a nephew etc. I received the following email from South Wales Police on 20 February 2019. Good Morning Mr Milkins,

Thanks again for your continuing interest in the case. I have now moved from the Specialist Crime Review Unit to a new role. However I am happy to provide you with relevant updates on the Drinkwater case as previously communicated.
I know my colleagues who are working on the Drinkwater case are actively considering the family connections to Harold JONES.
Kind Regards. Mark.

[Robert]

Thanks Neil.

That's a tough one. Normally when researching a name like "Jones" one is hoping for a female Jones to marry a male who has an easier name.

[Neil Milkins]

Hi Robert. Jones has male relatives. I am in regular contact with a number of his nieces and nephews. All of them are saying the same. Uncle Harold is J.T.S. As far as proving if Jones killed Muriel, the sure way is to exhume his body. It will then be definitely yes or no.

[Robert]

Hi Neil

If it will decide his guilt or innocence, then that's definitely the way to go.

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Trevor. See my post below dated 22-2-19.
02-22-2019, 08:00 PM
Hi Trevor. Your questions can only be answered by the Met. and hopefully will be answered soon. The programme correctly stated that the paint samples came from Shaw an Kilburn. (My post from 22-2-2019.( I do know now what I didn't know before regarding a car. However you will glean no more information from me.

At what point in the prog was the shaw and kilburn issue mentioned? I dont have the time or the real inclination to watrch it all over yet again.

In the prog he was said to be a sheet metal worker

I am going to ask again

1. Why was this not taken to the police in 2011 when the first prog came out?
2. What new evidence or facts was obtained between 2011 and the current prog?

You were involved in both progs along with Prof Wilson

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