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  • The forum is pretty dead now Caz. Love Neil. xxx

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    • Originally posted by Neil Milkins View Post
      The forum is pretty dead now Caz. Love Neil. xxx
      have you any news on the outcome of the cold case review, its been some time now ?

      www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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      • It has been going on for nearly 3 months. The cold-case team are gathering witness statements and surviving evidence etc. They have plenty to research but hopefully it will be worth the wait and either incriminate or clear Harold Jones.

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        • Hi all,
          Read this from start to finish just now. Interesting read. Has there been any outcome of the police review now we are over a year since the last reply?

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          • Watched Dark Son yesterday and also wondering if there has been any news?

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            • Hi all

              The Met refused to reopen the case.

              The following article quotes a Detective Constable Adam Bailey saying, “To link Harold Jones to any murder other than those for which he is convicted is purely speculative and without any evidential basis.”

              https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/07...stripper-case/

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              • Originally posted by phantom View Post
                Hi all

                The Met refused to reopen the case.

                The following article quotes a Detective Constable Adam Bailey saying, “To link Harold Jones to any murder other than those for which he is convicted is purely speculative and without any evidential basis.”

                https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/07...stripper-case/
                At the end of the program as I recall someone from the Met stated that the new information from the program would be looked at by the cold case review team. That clearly has not happened

                There was one important issue which has never been sastifactorily covered and that is whether or not Jones owned a motor car, I am reliably informed that he did not but could drive.

                I am aware that he did work as a mechanic and it has been suggested that on that basis he would have had access to cars. Because clearly the killer of some of these victims must have had access to a car to transport the bodies. But if he didnt then I would suggest that goes some way to eliminating him.

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                Last edited by Trevor Marriott; 06-17-2021, 06:58 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

                  At the end of the program as I recall someone from the Met stated that the new information from the program would be looked at by the cold case review team. That clearly has not happened

                  There was one important issue which has never been sastifactorily covered and that is whether or not Jones owned a motor car, I am reliably informed that he did not but could drive.

                  I am aware that he did work as a mechanic and it has been suggested that on that basis he would have had access to cars. Because clearly the killer of some of these victims must have had access to a car to transport the bodies. But if he didnt then I would suggest that goes some way to eliminating him.

                  www.trevormarriott.co.uk
                  Hi Trevor,

                  Is the mechanic job you mention Shaw and Kilburn's motor repair and spray shop or somewhere else?

                  And did you ever get the opportunity to interview Jones daughter?

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                  • Originally posted by phantom View Post

                    Hi Trevor,

                    Is the mechanic job you mention Shaw and Kilburn's motor repair and spray shop or somewhere else?

                    And did you ever get the opportunity to interview Jones daughter?
                    Yes thats where he worked, and I didnt get to speak to his daughter.

                    It also seems that depsite his previous murder conviction he fell under the radar of the police and was never looked into as a possible suspect.

                    www.trevormarriott.co.uk

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                    • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

                      Yes thats where he worked, and I didnt get to speak to his daughter.

                      It also seems that depsite his previous murder conviction he fell under the radar of the police and was never looked into as a possible suspect.

                      www.trevormarriott.co.uk
                      I’ve had a long-standing interest in this case and I’ve never before seen it stated that Harold Jones had a link to the Heron Trading Estate, but you say that he did, and in fact was employed as a mechanic at the Shaw and Kilburn works. That’s huge. That links him with the scene of the crime, whereas before, all that was known was that he lived in the general area of London where the crimes were committed.

                      Of course, it’s only circumstantial. As the police statement said, there’s no evidence of him being the killer, but this new information is, to me, a big step forward in making it more likely that he was responsible.

                      Regarding the police statement, I guess it makes sense. If they can’t get beyond these circumstantial things to something more concrete, then there’s nothing to investigate and no reason to allocate resources to it.

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                      • Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post

                        Yes thats where he worked, and I didnt get to speak to his daughter.

                        It also seems that depsite his previous murder conviction he fell under the radar of the police and was never looked into as a possible suspect.

                        www.trevormarriott.co.uk
                        Hi Trevor, thanks for the info and apologies for my late reply.

                        Wow. That’s very interesting indeed. Do you know if he was working there during the murders?

                        I re-watched Dark Son last week and noticed that his daughter recalled he was employed as a sheet metal worker in Acton, so I assume it’s the same place.

                        He seems to be far more interesting than Mungo Ireland or the “former Policeman”, & the Freddie Mills thing just seems like a Gull/Sickert et al type tall story…

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                        • Originally posted by dubmill View Post

                          I’ve had a long-standing interest in this case and I’ve never before seen it stated that Harold Jones had a link to the Heron Trading Estate, but you say that he did, and in fact was employed as a mechanic at the Shaw and Kilburn works. That’s huge. That links him with the scene of the crime, whereas before, all that was known was that he lived in the general area of London where the crimes were committed.

                          Of course, it’s only circumstantial. As the police statement said, there’s no evidence of him being the killer, but this new information is, to me, a big step forward in making it more likely that he was responsible.

                          Regarding the police statement, I guess it makes sense. If they can’t get beyond these circumstantial things to something more concrete, then there’s nothing to investigate and no reason to allocate resources to it.
                          Jones had been linked to the 1946 unsolved murder of Muriel Drinkwater too, but in 2019 the South Wales Specialist Crime Review Unit exonerated him based on DNA.

                          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...jones-16207548

                          I wonder if that contributed to The Met going cold on a Hammersmith Murders review?

                          That and the cost, lack of surviving evidence and the fact they conducted one in 2007 I guess.

                          Tantalising that he worked at Shaw and Kilburn tho...

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