JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[Herlock Sholmes]

Your source claimed that the APB for the JFK included a clothing description. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that all of the Tippit murder witnesses gave an identical a clothing description. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that Oswald was just walking down the street before he ducked into the Texas Theater. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that Johnny Brewer was lying about hearing of Tippit's murder on the radio. Your source was lying.

Your source said that all the descriptions of Tippit's murderer contradicted each other. Your source was lying.

Your source tried to pretend that Aquilla Clemons was at least three witnesses. Your source was lying.

Your source said Domingo Benavides changed his testimony after his brother was murdered, Your source was lying.

Your source said the murderer of Eddy Benavides was never caught, Your source was lying.

Your source lied about the distance between the location of Tippit's murder and the Texas Theater.

Your source lied about the time between Tippit's murder and the time Oswald was seen entering the Texas Theater.

Your source lied about Jack Ruby having a house in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippit's reason for being in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippit having a mistress in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippet working for Jack Ruby.

Your source lied about Billy Lovelady looking almost the same as Oswald.

Your source lied about Lovelady being a smuggler and gunrunner.

Your source lied about Jack Ruby being a successful gunrunner.

Your source lied by claiming Ruth Paine got Lovelady a job at the TSBD.

Your source lied about the occupation of Ruth Paine's father.

Your source lied about Ruth Paine knowing Allen Dulles.

Your source lied about Oswald's level of security clearance.

That's not a complete list of your source's lies.

Typical CT source id say Fiver.

[cobalt]

So you ignore a pile of witnesses in favour of the one who was bullied by Mark Lane. A poorly educated, not very lucid woman badgered on tape. Good choice Fishy.

Bullied by the pipe smoking, avuncular Mark Lane?? I watched Acquilla Clemmons' interview last night and I think Sonny Liston would have struggled to intimidate her. Her southern drawl might indicate a limited academic education but there is no evidence of her faculties or honesty being in question. She was perfectly lucid on the point of her believing she saw two persons involved in the murder of JD Tippit. She might have misinterpreted the situation of course but she was surely worth taking a statement from.

I have read that the FBI did not take a statement from Acquilla Clemmons on grounds of her health: she was around 55 and suffered from diabetes. If she was 'bullied' by Mark Lane then it seems odd she was very open about being threatened by law enforcement a few days after the Tippit murder. Maybe Mark Lane was better at bullying people than LE carrying a weapon.

But not so good as others. I think Warren Reynolds was the Tippit witness who was unable to identify Oswald as being at the scene. After being shot in the head, and surviving, his memory was jolted for the better and he was then able to confirm that Oswald was indeed the man he saw fleeing the murder scene.

[Fiver]

I think Warren Reynolds was the Tippit witness who was unable to identify Oswald as being at the scene. After being shot in the head, and surviving, his memory was jolted for the better and he was then able to confirm that Oswald was indeed the man he saw fleeing the murder scene.

Reynolds was one of four men at the Reynolds Motor Company who heard shots and saw a man with a gun running.

L. J. LEWIS, 7616 Hums, Pleasant Grove, Texas, advised he is presently self-employed as a wholesale car dealer. LEWIS advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, he was on the used car lot of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars together with HAROLD RUSSELL and PAT PATTERSON, during which time they heard approximately three or four gun shots coming from the vicinity of Tenth and Patton Avenue, Dallas, Texas. Approximately one minute later he observed a white male, approximately thirty years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying either an automatic pistol or a revolver in his hands, and while running was either attempting to reload same or conceal the weapon in his belt line.

Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, the individual then proceeded west on Jefferson, at which time LEWIS advised he went into the office of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars and called the Dallas Police Department to advise them of the fact that the shooting had just occurred just north of the intersection of Jefferson and Patton Avenue.

LEWIS advised PAT PATTERSON and WARREN REYNOLDS attempted to follow the individual, and to the best of his knowledge, HAROLD RUSSELL had gone in the direction of Tenth and Patton Avenue to determine what had happened. LEWIS advised he later was informed that a Dallas uniform police officer had been shot at the intersection of Patton and Tenth Street in Dallas, and that in all probability the individual they had seen running south on Patton Avenue with a gun in his possession was the individual responsible for sane.

LEWIS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD No. 112723, dated August 9, 1963, at which time Mr. LEWIS advised due to the distance from which he observed the individual he would hesitate to state whether the individual was identical with OSWALD.

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Mr. B.M. PATTERSON, 4635 Hartford Street, Dallas, Texas, currently employed by Wyatt's Cafeteria, 2647 South Lancaster, Dallas, Texas, advised he was present at the used car lot of JOHNNY REYNOLDS' on the afternoon of November 22, 1963.

PATTERSON advised that at approximately 1:30 PM, he was standing on JONNY REYNOLDS' used car lot together with L.J. LEWIS and HAROLD RUSSELL when they heard shots coming from the vicinity of 10th and Patton Avenue, Dallas, Texas. A minute or so later they observed a white male approximately 30 years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying what appeared to be a revolver in his hand and was obviously trying to reload same while running. When the individual reached the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, he placed the weapon inside his waistband and began walking west on the north side of Jefferson Street. As the individual was walking WARREN REYNOLDS suggested that they follow the individual to determine, his location in order that they could later notify the Dallas Police Department. At this point, he was unaware that a police officer had been shot and thought perhaps that the shooting had resulted from some marital problem. As the individual reached Ballew's Texaco Service Station located in the 600 Block of Jefferson, the individual made a turn in a northerly direction and proceeded behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station where the individual discarded a jacket which was later recovered by the Dallas Police Department. The aforementioned individual was not observed again by either he, PATTERSON, or WARREN REYNOLDS.

PATTERSON was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD at which time he identified said photograph as being identical with the individual he had observed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, running south on Patton Avenue with a weapon in his hand.

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WARREN REYNOLDS, part owner, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, advised on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, while sitting in his office, he had observed an individual running south on Patton Avenue toward Jefferson Street and then walking at a fast rate of speed west on Jefferson. As the individual was running down Patton Avenue, he had a pistol or an automatic in his possession and was apparently attempting to conceal same in his belt while he was running. REYNOLDS advised he had previously heard shots coming from the area of Tenth and Patton Streets and, thinking that possibly a marital argument had occurred and a shooting had taken place, he attempted to follow the individual in order that he could inform the Dallas Police Department of the individual's location.

He advised he stayed at a safe distance behind the individual and last observed the individual to turn north by the Ballew Texaco Service Station, and from this point he did not again observe the individual. He advised he made inquiry at Ballew's Texaco Service Station, and they informed him the individual had gone through the parking lot.

REYNOLDS advised approximately five or ten minutes later he was informed by an unknown source that the individual whom he had been "tailing" had shot and apparently killed a uniform officer of the Dallas Police Department.

REYNOLDS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he is of the opinion OSWALD is the person he had followed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963; however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual.

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HAROLD RUSSELL, employee, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, he was standing on the lot of Reynolds Used Cars together with L.J. LEWIS and PAT PATTERSON, at which time they heard shots come from the vicinity of Patton and Tenth Street, and a few seconds later they observed a young white man running south on Patton Avenue carrying a pistol or revolver which the individual was attempting to either reload or place in his belt line. Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, the individual stopped running and began walking at a fast pace, heading west on Jefferson.

RUSSELL advised that he and PAT PATTERSON proceeded to the area of Tenth and Patton Avenue and that L.J. LEWIS went into the office of Reynolds Used Car Lot to call the Dallas Police Department.

RUSSELL advised upon arriving at the intersection of Tenth and Patton he observed a Dallas uniform police officer lying on the ground in front of a Dallas police car, and from all indication the Dallas police officer was apparently dead. RUSSELL advised the police officer's weapon was lying on the front seat of the Dallas police officer's car. At this point an unknown individual stated to RUSSELL, "Let's take the police officer's gun end go get the S.O.B. who is responsible for this."

RUSSELL advised he informed the unknown individual that he would remain at the police car so he could advise the other police officers upon their arrival of the direction in which the person responsible for the shooting had gone. RUSSELL advised approximately five minutes later Dallas police officers arrived, at which time he informed them of the general direction in which the person apparently responsible for the shooting had gone and also the fact that WARREN REYNOLDS and PAT PATTERSON, employees of Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, had attempted to follow the individual as he headed west on Jefferson Street.

RUSSELL advised he had furnished the foregoing information to the Dallas Police Department on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. RUSSELL advised he was not a witness to the actual shooting of the Dallas police officer and could only testify to the fact that he had observed an individual whom he now knows as LEE HARVEY OSWALD leaving the scene.

RUSSELL positively identified a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans Police Department # 112723, taken August 9, 1963, as being identical with the individual he had observed at the scene of the shooting of Dallas Police Officer J.D. TIPPIT on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, at Dallas, Texas.

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Why would the Conspiracy target Reynolds, who thought it was likely Oswald? Patterson and Russell, were certain it was Oswald, and Reynolds supported them.. If the Conspiracy wanted to shore up weak testimony, why not target Lewis, who said he was too far away to identify the man?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Bullied by the pipe smoking, avuncular Mark Lane?? I watched Acquilla Clemmons' interview last night and I think Sonny Liston would have struggled to intimidate her. Her southern drawl might indicate a limited academic education but there is no evidence of her faculties or honesty being in question. She was perfectly lucid on the point of her believing she saw two persons involved in the murder of JD Tippit. She might have misinterpreted the situation of course but she was surely worth taking a statement from.

I have read that the FBI did not take a statement from Acquilla Clemmons on grounds of her health: she was around 55 and suffered from diabetes. If she was 'bullied' by Mark Lane then it seems odd she was very open about being threatened by law enforcement a few days after the Tippit murder. Maybe Mark Lane was better at bullying people than LE carrying a weapon.

But not so good as others. I think Warren Reynolds was the Tippit witness who was unable to identify Oswald as being at the scene. After being shot in the head, and surviving, his memory was jolted for the better and he was then able to confirm that Oswald was indeed the man he saw fleeing the murder scene.

I did mention in #3480 which you might have missed that my memory played me false on that one Cobalt. It was actually Helen Markham. I should have checked before posting.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Reynolds was one of four men at the Reynolds Motor Company who heard shots and saw a man with a gun running.

L. J. LEWIS, 7616 Hums, Pleasant Grove, Texas, advised he is presently self-employed as a wholesale car dealer. LEWIS advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, he was on the used car lot of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars together with HAROLD RUSSELL and PAT PATTERSON, during which time they heard approximately three or four gun shots coming from the vicinity of Tenth and Patton Avenue, Dallas, Texas. Approximately one minute later he observed a white male, approximately thirty years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying either an automatic pistol or a revolver in his hands, and while running was either attempting to reload same or conceal the weapon in his belt line.

Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, the individual then proceeded west on Jefferson, at which time LEWIS advised he went into the office of Johnny Reynolds Used Cars and called the Dallas Police Department to advise them of the fact that the shooting had just occurred just north of the intersection of Jefferson and Patton Avenue.

LEWIS advised PAT PATTERSON and WARREN REYNOLDS attempted to follow the individual, and to the best of his knowledge, HAROLD RUSSELL had gone in the direction of Tenth and Patton Avenue to determine what had happened. LEWIS advised he later was informed that a Dallas uniform police officer had been shot at the intersection of Patton and Tenth Street in Dallas, and that in all probability the individual they had seen running south on Patton Avenue with a gun in his possession was the individual responsible for sane.

LEWIS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD No. 112723, dated August 9, 1963, at which time Mr. LEWIS advised due to the distance from which he observed the individual he would hesitate to state whether the individual was identical with OSWALD.

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Mr. B.M. PATTERSON, 4635 Hartford Street, Dallas, Texas, currently employed by Wyatt's Cafeteria, 2647 South Lancaster, Dallas, Texas, advised he was present at the used car lot of JOHNNY REYNOLDS' on the afternoon of November 22, 1963.

PATTERSON advised that at approximately 1:30 PM, he was standing on JONNY REYNOLDS' used car lot together with L.J. LEWIS and HAROLD RUSSELL when they heard shots coming from the vicinity of 10th and Patton Avenue, Dallas, Texas. A minute or so later they observed a white male approximately 30 years of age, running south on Patton Avenue, carrying what appeared to be a revolver in his hand and was obviously trying to reload same while running. When the individual reached the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, he placed the weapon inside his waistband and began walking west on the north side of Jefferson Street. As the individual was walking WARREN REYNOLDS suggested that they follow the individual to determine, his location in order that they could later notify the Dallas Police Department. At this point, he was unaware that a police officer had been shot and thought perhaps that the shooting had resulted from some marital problem. As the individual reached Ballew's Texaco Service Station located in the 600 Block of Jefferson, the individual made a turn in a northerly direction and proceeded behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station where the individual discarded a jacket which was later recovered by the Dallas Police Department. The aforementioned individual was not observed again by either he, PATTERSON, or WARREN REYNOLDS.

PATTERSON was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD at which time he identified said photograph as being identical with the individual he had observed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, running south on Patton Avenue with a weapon in his hand.

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WARREN REYNOLDS, part owner, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, advised on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, while sitting in his office, he had observed an individual running south on Patton Avenue toward Jefferson Street and then walking at a fast rate of speed west on Jefferson. As the individual was running down Patton Avenue, he had a pistol or an automatic in his possession and was apparently attempting to conceal same in his belt while he was running. REYNOLDS advised he had previously heard shots coming from the area of Tenth and Patton Streets and, thinking that possibly a marital argument had occurred and a shooting had taken place, he attempted to follow the individual in order that he could inform the Dallas Police Department of the individual's location.

He advised he stayed at a safe distance behind the individual and last observed the individual to turn north by the Ballew Texaco Service Station, and from this point he did not again observe the individual. He advised he made inquiry at Ballew's Texaco Service Station, and they informed him the individual had gone through the parking lot.

REYNOLDS advised approximately five or ten minutes later he was informed by an unknown source that the individual whom he had been "tailing" had shot and apparently killed a uniform officer of the Dallas Police Department.

REYNOLDS was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he is of the opinion OSWALD is the person he had followed on the afternoon of November 22, 1963; however, he would hesitate to definitely identify OSWALD as the individual.

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HAROLD RUSSELL, employee, Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, he was standing on the lot of Reynolds Used Cars together with L.J. LEWIS and PAT PATTERSON, at which time they heard shots come from the vicinity of Patton and Tenth Street, and a few seconds later they observed a young white man running south on Patton Avenue carrying a pistol or revolver which the individual was attempting to either reload or place in his belt line. Upon reaching the intersection of Patton Avenue and Jefferson Street, the individual stopped running and began walking at a fast pace, heading west on Jefferson.

RUSSELL advised that he and PAT PATTERSON proceeded to the area of Tenth and Patton Avenue and that L.J. LEWIS went into the office of Reynolds Used Car Lot to call the Dallas Police Department.

RUSSELL advised upon arriving at the intersection of Tenth and Patton he observed a Dallas uniform police officer lying on the ground in front of a Dallas police car, and from all indication the Dallas police officer was apparently dead. RUSSELL advised the police officer's weapon was lying on the front seat of the Dallas police officer's car. At this point an unknown individual stated to RUSSELL, "Let's take the police officer's gun end go get the S.O.B. who is responsible for this."

RUSSELL advised he informed the unknown individual that he would remain at the police car so he could advise the other police officers upon their arrival of the direction in which the person responsible for the shooting had gone. RUSSELL advised approximately five minutes later Dallas police officers arrived, at which time he informed them of the general direction in which the person apparently responsible for the shooting had gone and also the fact that WARREN REYNOLDS and PAT PATTERSON, employees of Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, had attempted to follow the individual as he headed west on Jefferson Street.

RUSSELL advised he had furnished the foregoing information to the Dallas Police Department on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. RUSSELL advised he was not a witness to the actual shooting of the Dallas police officer and could only testify to the fact that he had observed an individual whom he now knows as LEE HARVEY OSWALD leaving the scene.

RUSSELL positively identified a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans Police Department # 112723, taken August 9, 1963, as being identical with the individual he had observed at the scene of the shooting of Dallas Police Officer J.D. TIPPIT on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, at Dallas, Texas.

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Why would the Conspiracy target Reynolds, who thought it was likely Oswald? Patterson and Russell, were certain it was Oswald, and Reynolds supported them.. If the Conspiracy wanted to shore up weak testimony, why not target Lewis, who said he was too far away to identify the man?

Fiver, do you still have that full list handy? The one containing all the witnesses who positively identified Oswald as the man that shot Tippit.