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  • Originally posted by scottnapa View Post
    Lock,
    Since you ask.
    a shooter in the 6th floor and a shooter behind the fence on the grassy knoll.
    I do not exclude Oswald from the assassination.
    The kill shot came from the Knoll.
    The comments about No conspiracy would trust Oswald. This statement has two logical outcomes. Either Oswald acted alone. Or The kill shot came from the knoll.
    Malcolm Wallace was the shooter from the 6th floor TSBD. We now have evidence of that via phone conversations previously posted.

    Roscoe White killed Tippet . Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.


    Shooter of the fatal head shot was from the front, most probably the grassy knoll.


    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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    • Originally posted by Fiver View Post

      I proved your source was repeatedly lying.
      You proved nothing , you saw and heard the truth from the tape conversation , start from there and youll work the rest out . Its your sourse that is wrong your, imformating is incorrect . It always has been .
      'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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      • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

        Ok, so your posts are superior to everyone else’s. We have established that.

        The issue is what is actual evidence and also how different people interpret it. Two obvious examples are 1) you cut and pasted the paragraph about Wilcott the comment from you as if it was somehow proof of conspiracy. You made no attempt to look into how valid his evidence was. He was a low level pay operative who allegedly had ‘off duty or out of daytime hours’ conversations with people that he can’t even recall the names of. Those people allegedly told him what they had heard from other undisclosed, unnamed people. Surely you can understand how weak this is Fishy? Then we have to ask why he waited 10-12 before coming forward? Did anything change? Actually it did. He left the CIA and got involved in anti-government, left wing politics (which doesn’t make him a bad person of course but it might indicate someone looking for ways of damaging the government and it’s institutions. Wilcott’s ‘evidence’ is pretty weak stuff.

        Then there was talk of bullets and fragments. Unlike the Wilcott ‘evidence’ Fiver mentions the testing done by Frazier which was confirmed by 4 independent tests. This is evidence of the strongest type. Can you imagine, under any circumstances, a jury ignoring 5 experts who all came to the same conclusion? And yet you never acknowledged this evidence because it doesn’t fit your long held preconception.

        Evidence isn’t about simply posting a quote from someone who says something that you agree with.




        The Autopsy photos are fake . Everywhere you look its always the same thing, Drs at parkland Hospital , Clint Hll ,Jackie Kennedy . The Warren Commission was designed to cover up all these facts . Its a lie ,and people who where there who saw JFK head blown off prove it was just that .


        Whos lying , Clint Hill or the Warren Commission ? Put this to your next Mock Trial .


        In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'


        More ''Actual Evidence'' that contradicts the W.C ....... 294 pages to go JFK Forum. Thank you Mr Clint Hill and Jackie Kennedy for your honesty and exposing the W.C lie R.I.P .
        'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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        • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

          Malcolm Wallace was the shooter from the 6th floor TSBD. We now have evidence of that via phone conversations previously posted.

          Roscoe White killed Tippet . Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.


          Shooter of the fatal head shot was from the front, most probably the grassy knoll.

          Don’t you actually read evidence Fishy? You appear to just pick out bits that you like. Even most conspiracy theorists dismiss the Wallace story. The Roscoe White story is even worse. No one believes that. You might as well have named Gull.
          Regards

          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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          • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post





            The Autopsy photos are fake . Everywhere you look its always the same thing, Drs at parkland Hospital , Clint Hll ,Jackie Kennedy . The Warren Commission was designed to cover up all these facts . Its a lie ,and people who where there who saw JFK head blown off prove it was just that .

            You are just making that up. Errors or omissions don’t automatically equate to dishonesty. Not in the real world anyway.

            Whos lying , Clint Hill or the Warren Commission ? Put this to your next Mock Trial .

            Please look at a dictionary and look up ‘lying’ and ‘mistaken.’ You may find it helpful.


            In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'


            More ''Actual Evidence'' that contradicts the W.C ....... 294 pages to go JFK Forum. Thank you Mr Clint Hill and Jackie Kennedy for your honesty and exposing the W.C lie R.I.P .
            You have provided nothing Fishy accept a few of highly selective quotes. The shout of ‘fakes’ are just childish yells in the absence of actual evidence. Actual evidence proves Oswald’s guilt 100%.

            When was Kennedy’s head ‘blown off’ Fishy? Is this a new theory?
            Regards

            Sir Herlock Sholmes.

            “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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            • Originally posted by GBinOz View Post
              When Trump told a friend "if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either", it's not likely to be anything about LHO. That wouldn't need to be suppressed for 60 years. I think it has to be something that goes to the very top of the government and the oligarchs of the time.

              You might like this one George , [if you havent seen it already] , im impressed.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8emNECYgmg&t=3979s&ab_channel=%E3%82%A8%E 3%83%BC%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%92%E3%83% 87%E3%83%AB
              'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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              • Thanks James Jenkins , Added to the list.




                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOtc...=J.KevenHofeli ng




                ''James Jenkins on JFK's Back of Head Wound Being the Size of a Closed Fist at 1991 Dallas Conference''

                'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                  Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.
                  So you ignore a pile of witnesses in favour of the one who was bullied by Mark Lane. A poorly educated, not very lucid woman badgered on tape. Good choice Fishy.

                  What a remarkable coincidence. Oswald passes the area where Tippit was killed as he was looking for a man matching Oswald’s description. Around 10 witnesses mistakenly identify him then he’s arrested with the murder weapon. All a stage show. It’s unbelievable that anyone would fall for it.
                  Regards

                  Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                  “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                    Don’t you actually read evidence Fishy? You appear to just pick out bits that you like. Even most conspiracy theorists dismiss the Wallace story. The Roscoe White story is even worse. No one believes that. You might as well have named Gull.


                    Prove he wasnt ? , oh thats right you cant .
                    'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                    • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                      So you ignore a pile of witnesses in favour of the one who was bullied by Mark Lane. A poorly educated, not very lucid woman badgered on tape. Good choice Fishy.

                      What a remarkable coincidence. Oswald passes the area where Tippit was killed as he was looking for a man matching Oswald’s description. Around 10 witnesses mistakenly identify him then he’s arrested with the murder weapon. All a stage show. It’s unbelievable that anyone would fall for it.
                      ''Prove'' Mark Lane bullied her ? , that right ,again you cant .
                      'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                      • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                        You have provided nothing Fishy accept a few of highly selective quotes. The shout of ‘fakes’ are just childish yells in the absence of actual evidence. Actual evidence proves Oswald’s guilt 100%.

                        When was Kennedy’s head ‘blown off’ Fishy? Is this a new theory?
                        The Fact you had to take that statement of Hills out of context and suggest ''some new theory'' , tells me your desperate herlock . Give up . theres plenty more actual evidence to come .
                        'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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                        • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post

                          The Fact you had to take that statement of Hills out of context and suggest ''some new theory'' , tells me your desperate herlock . Give up . theres plenty more actual evidence to come .
                          I haven’t a clue what you mean about context Fishy and I suspect that no one else does too. Perhaps you could point the that part of the quote that you posted which mentions a shot from the front?


                          “In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'​“

                          The part in red seems to tell us quite clearly that Hill hadn’t a clue which direction the shots were coming from.

                          Someone saying something on the internet isn’t evidence Fishy. You appear not to understand this. ‘See it/believe it’ isn’t the route to truth. It’s simply confirmation bias.
                          Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; Today, 12:09 PM.
                          Regards

                          Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                          “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                          • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post



                            Prove he wasnt ? , oh thats right you cant .
                            Your wish is my command Fishy.

                            In 1990 an unemployed salesman called Ricky White called a Press conference at the JFK Assassination Information Centre in Dallas to claim that his late father Roscoe, a deceased former police officer, was the Grassy Knoll gunman. He claimed to have learned this from his father’s diary which he, rather unsurprisingly, failed to ever produce.

                            Then, step forward barking mad Beverley Oliver who claimed to have seen White in Dealey Plaza, in his police uniform, walking away from the Knoll. She had claimed to conspiracy theorist Gary Shaw in 1970 that she was the elusive ‘Babushka Lady,’ even though she would only have been 17 at the time and photographs of her showed her to have been a slim teenager whilst the Babushka Lady was clearly a more matronly figure. Then in 1988 she backtracked and said that she wasn’t the Babushka Lady after all but that she was ‘somewhere’ in Dealey Plaza! She wouldn’t say where (maybe she was in the drain?) Oliver couldn’t have seen even name the make and type of camera that she’d used to film the assassination but, sadly for her, that type of camera didn’t exist until 6 years later! Oops! Barking mad Bev also claimed to have had a 2 hour private conversation in a Miami Hotel room with Richard Nixon in 1968. She even contacted James Earl Ray’s defence team in 1997 claiming to have explosive evidence about the assassination of Martin Luther King. Did she? You’ll never guess. No..she didn’t. Even the majority of conspiracy theorists give Oliver a wide berth. One of the most respected conspiracy theorists, Paul Hoch, said that Beverley Oliver had “very low inherent credibility.” He even to,d the HSCA not to bother with her. This is the kind of proven fantasist that conspiracy theorists rely on. Oliver Stone had this obvious liar as a consultant on his three hour lie ‘JFK!’ Hardly a surprise.

                            On 22nd November 1963 Roscoe White hadn’t even begun his police training yet. It began on December 4th, so Oliver couldn’t have seen him in Dealey Plaza in his uniform. White’s son said, and this is a cracker, that he recalled his father and 4 other men practising for the assassination. The fact that he wasn’t yet 3 at the time didn’t appear to bother him.

                            So Fishy…that’s White utterly demolished. Even the lunatic fringe of conspiracy theorist don’t have time for White or Oliver but if you are willing to nail your colours to the mast by being taken in by this tissue of nonsense then it’s up to you. It just makes it easy for the Lone Gunman side to show that you will believe anything that you read.
                            Regards

                            Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                            “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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