JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[FISHY1118]

Lock,
Since you ask.
a shooter in the 6th floor and a shooter behind the fence on the grassy knoll.
I do not exclude Oswald from the assassination.
The kill shot came from the Knoll.
The comments about No conspiracy would trust Oswald. This statement has two logical outcomes. Either Oswald acted alone. Or The kill shot came from the knoll.

Malcolm Wallace was the shooter from the 6th floor TSBD. We now have evidence of that via phone conversations previously posted.

Roscoe White killed Tippet . Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.


Shooter of the fatal head shot was from the front, most probably the grassy knoll.

[FISHY1118]

I proved your source was repeatedly lying.

You proved nothing , you saw and heard the truth from the tape conversation , start from there and youll work the rest out . Its your sourse that is wrong your, imformating is incorrect . It always has been .

[FISHY1118]

Ok, so your posts are superior to everyone else’s. We have established that.

The issue is what is actual evidence and also how different people interpret it. Two obvious examples are 1) you cut and pasted the paragraph about Wilcott the comment from you as if it was somehow proof of conspiracy. You made no attempt to look into how valid his evidence was. He was a low level pay operative who allegedly had ‘off duty or out of daytime hours’ conversations with people that he can’t even recall the names of. Those people allegedly told him what they had heard from other undisclosed, unnamed people. Surely you can understand how weak this is Fishy? Then we have to ask why he waited 10-12 before coming forward? Did anything change? Actually it did. He left the CIA and got involved in anti-government, left wing politics (which doesn’t make him a bad person of course but it might indicate someone looking for ways of damaging the government and it’s institutions. Wilcott’s ‘evidence’ is pretty weak stuff.

Then there was talk of bullets and fragments. Unlike the Wilcott ‘evidence’ Fiver mentions the testing done by Frazier which was confirmed by 4 independent tests. This is evidence of the strongest type. Can you imagine, under any circumstances, a jury ignoring 5 experts who all came to the same conclusion? And yet you never acknowledged this evidence because it doesn’t fit your long held preconception.

Evidence isn’t about simply posting a quote from someone who says something that you agree with.

The Autopsy photos are fake . Everywhere you look its always the same thing, Drs at parkland Hospital , Clint Hll ,Jackie Kennedy . The Warren Commission was designed to cover up all these facts . Its a lie ,and people who where there who saw JFK head blown off prove it was just that .


Whos lying , Clint Hill or the Warren Commission ? Put this to your next Mock Trial .


In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'


More ''Actual Evidence'' that contradicts the W.C ....... 294 pages to go JFK Forum. Thank you Mr Clint Hill and Jackie Kennedy for your honesty and exposing the W.C lie R.I.P .

[Herlock Sholmes]

Malcolm Wallace was the shooter from the 6th floor TSBD. We now have evidence of that via phone conversations previously posted.

Roscoe White killed Tippet . Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.


Shooter of the fatal head shot was from the front, most probably the grassy knoll.

Don’t you actually read evidence Fishy? You appear to just pick out bits that you like. Even most conspiracy theorists dismiss the Wallace story. The Roscoe White story is even worse. No one believes that. You might as well have named Gull.

[Herlock Sholmes]

The Autopsy photos are fake . Everywhere you look its always the same thing, Drs at parkland Hospital , Clint Hll ,Jackie Kennedy . The Warren Commission was designed to cover up all these facts . Its a lie ,and people who where there who saw JFK head blown off prove it was just that .

You are just making that up. Errors or omissions don’t automatically equate to dishonesty. Not in the real world anyway.

Whos lying , Clint Hill or the Warren Commission ? Put this to your next Mock Trial .

Please look at a dictionary and look up ‘lying’ and ‘mistaken.’ You may find it helpful.


In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'


More ''Actual Evidence'' that contradicts the W.C ....... 294 pages to go JFK Forum. Thank you Mr Clint Hill and Jackie Kennedy for your honesty and exposing the W.C lie R.I.P .

You have provided nothing Fishy accept a few of highly selective quotes. The shout of ‘fakes’ are just childish yells in the absence of actual evidence. Actual evidence proves Oswald’s guilt 100%.

When was Kennedy’s head ‘blown off’ Fishy? Is this a new theory?

[FISHY1118]

When Trump told a friend "if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either", it's not likely to be anything about LHO. That wouldn't need to be suppressed for 60 years. I think it has to be something that goes to the very top of the government and the oligarchs of the time.

You might like this one George , [if you havent seen it already] , im impressed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8emNECYgmg&t=3979s&ab_channel=%E3%82%A8%E 3%83%BC%E3%83%AC%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%92%E3%83% 87%E3%83%AB

[FISHY1118]

Thanks James Jenkins , Added to the list.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOtc...=J.KevenHofeli ng




''James Jenkins on JFK's Back of Head Wound Being the Size of a Closed Fist at 1991 Dallas Conference''

[Herlock Sholmes]

Clemmonds clears LHO OF tippets murder.

So you ignore a pile of witnesses in favour of the one who was bullied by Mark Lane. A poorly educated, not very lucid woman badgered on tape. Good choice Fishy.

What a remarkable coincidence. Oswald passes the area where Tippit was killed as he was looking for a man matching Oswald’s description. Around 10 witnesses mistakenly identify him then he’s arrested with the murder weapon. All a stage show. It’s unbelievable that anyone would fall for it.

[FISHY1118]

Don’t you actually read evidence Fishy? You appear to just pick out bits that you like. Even most conspiracy theorists dismiss the Wallace story. The Roscoe White story is even worse. No one believes that. You might as well have named Gull.

Prove he wasnt ? , oh thats right you cant .

[FISHY1118]

So you ignore a pile of witnesses in favour of the one who was bullied by Mark Lane. A poorly educated, not very lucid woman badgered on tape. Good choice Fishy.

What a remarkable coincidence. Oswald passes the area where Tippit was killed as he was looking for a man matching Oswald’s description. Around 10 witnesses mistakenly identify him then he’s arrested with the murder weapon. All a stage show. It’s unbelievable that anyone would fall for it.

''Prove'' Mark Lane bullied her ? , that right ,again you cant .

[FISHY1118]

You have provided nothing Fishy accept a few of highly selective quotes. The shout of ‘fakes’ are just childish yells in the absence of actual evidence. Actual evidence proves Oswald’s guilt 100%.

When was Kennedy’s head ‘blown off’ Fishy? Is this a new theory?

The Fact you had to take that statement of Hills out of context and suggest ''some new theory'' , tells me your desperate herlock . Give up . theres plenty more actual evidence to come .

[Herlock Sholmes]

The Fact you had to take that statement of Hills out of context and suggest ''some new theory'' , tells me your desperate herlock . Give up . theres plenty more actual evidence to come .

I haven’t a clue what you mean about context Fishy and I suspect that no one else does too. Perhaps you could point the that part of the quote that you posted which mentions a shot from the front?


“In the book Five Days in November by Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill, the agent recalls the grisly scene: 'The president, without a doubt, has suffered a fatal wound. 'My God! They have shot his head off!' Mrs. Kennedy shrieks. 'Get us to a hospital!' I scream at the driver. 'Get us to a hospital!' As the car accelerates, I wedge myself on top of the rear seat, trying to get my body above and behind Mrs. Kennedy and the president, to shield them from whatever shots might still be coming...In the car, Mrs. Kennedy is in shock. Staring at her husband, his head bleeding into her lap, she moans, 'Jack, oh, Jack. What have they done?' And then, 'I have his brains in my hands.' Quietly, she adds, 'I love you, Jack.' Nothing else is said as we speed down Stemmons Freeway at about eighty miles an hour. I turn my head and my sunglasses blow off...Time has stopped. It feels like an eternity before we arrive at the hospital. In reality, it has been just four minutes since the shots rang out in Dealey Plaza.'“

The part in red seems to tell us quite clearly that Hill hadn’t a clue which direction the shots were coming from.

Someone saying something on the internet isn’t evidence Fishy. You appear not to understand this. ‘See it/believe it’ isn’t the route to truth. It’s simply confirmation bias.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Prove he wasnt ? , oh thats right you cant .

Your wish is my command Fishy.

In 1990 an unemployed salesman called Ricky White called a Press conference at the JFK Assassination Information Centre in Dallas to claim that his late father Roscoe, a deceased former police officer, was the Grassy Knoll gunman. He claimed to have learned this from his father’s diary which he, rather unsurprisingly, failed to ever produce.

Then, step forward barking mad Beverley Oliver who claimed to have seen White in Dealey Plaza, in his police uniform, walking away from the Knoll. She had claimed to conspiracy theorist Gary Shaw in 1970 that she was the elusive ‘Babushka Lady,’ even though she would only have been 17 at the time and photographs of her showed her to have been a slim teenager whilst the Babushka Lady was clearly a more matronly figure. Then in 1988 she backtracked and said that she wasn’t the Babushka Lady after all but that she was ‘somewhere’ in Dealey Plaza! She wouldn’t say where (maybe she was in the drain?) Oliver couldn’t have seen even name the make and type of camera that she’d used to film the assassination but, sadly for her, that type of camera didn’t exist until 6 years later! Oops! Barking mad Bev also claimed to have had a 2 hour private conversation in a Miami Hotel room with Richard Nixon in 1968. She even contacted James Earl Ray’s defence team in 1997 claiming to have explosive evidence about the assassination of Martin Luther King. Did she? You’ll never guess. No..she didn’t. Even the majority of conspiracy theorists give Oliver a wide berth. One of the most respected conspiracy theorists, Paul Hoch, said that Beverley Oliver had “very low inherent credibility.” He even to,d the HSCA not to bother with her. This is the kind of proven fantasist that conspiracy theorists rely on. Oliver Stone had this obvious liar as a consultant on his three hour lie ‘JFK!’ Hardly a surprise.

On 22nd November 1963 Roscoe White hadn’t even begun his police training yet. It began on December 4th, so Oliver couldn’t have seen him in Dealey Plaza in his uniform. White’s son said, and this is a cracker, that he recalled his father and 4 other men practising for the assassination. The fact that he wasn’t yet 3 at the time didn’t appear to bother him.

So Fishy…that’s White utterly demolished. Even the lunatic fringe of conspiracy theorist don’t have time for White or Oliver but if you are willing to nail your colours to the mast by being taken in by this tissue of nonsense then it’s up to you. It just makes it easy for the Lone Gunman side to show that you will believe anything that you read.

[Fiver]

You proved nothing , you saw and heard the truth from the tape conversation , start from there and youll work the rest out . Its your sourse that is wrong your, imformating is incorrect . It always has been .

Your source claimed that the APB for the JFK included a clothing description. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that all of the Tippit murder witnesses gave an identical a clothing description. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that Oswald was just walking down the street before he ducked into the Texas Theater. Your source was lying.

Your source claimed that Johnny Brewer was lying about hearing of Tippit's murder on the radio. Your source was lying.

Your source said that all the descriptions of Tippit's murderer contradicted each other. Your source was lying.

Your source tried to pretend that Aquilla Clemons was at least three witnesses. Your source was lying.

Your source said Domingo Benavides changed his testimony after his brother was murdered, Your source was lying.

Your source said the murderer of Eddy Benavides was never caught, Your source was lying.

Your source lied about the distance between the location of Tippit's murder and the Texas Theater.

Your source lied about the time between Tippit's murder and the time Oswald was seen entering the Texas Theater.

Your source lied about Jack Ruby having a house in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippit's reason for being in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippit having a mistress in Oak Cliff.

Your source lied about JD Tippet working for Jack Ruby.

Your source lied about Billy Lovelady looking almost the same as Oswald.

Your source lied about Lovelady being a smuggler and gunrunner.

Your source lied about Jack Ruby being a successful gunrunner.

Your source lied by claiming Ruth Paine got Lovelady a job at the TSBD.

Your source lied about the occupation of Ruth Paine's father.

Your source lied about Ruth Paine knowing Allen Dulles.

Your source lied about Oswald's level of security clearance.

That's not a complete list of your source's lies.

[Herlock Sholmes]

''Prove'' Mark Lane bullied her ? , that right ,again you cant .

Some people when they make a mistake tend to waffle and deny and obfuscate (naming no names of course) Not me though... Fishy, my apologies I made an error of memory...I shouldn’t have checked first rather than relying on a fallible memory. Mark Lane didn’t bully Clemons. It was Helen Markham that he bullied (and yes there is plenty of evidence) Mark Lane is a perfect example of the kind of conspiracy theorist that is treated with great respect for some bizarre reason.


Respected Dallas journalist Hugh Aynesworth, who in 1963 furnished Lane with copies of witness statements, said that Lane: “almost single-handed lay invented the lucrative JFK conspiracy industry.”

Wesley Liebeler said of Lane: “ It’s just incredible to listen to him. If he talks for 5 minutes it takes an hour to straighten out the record.”

Respected conspiracy theorist Harold Weisberg said of Lane: “ I only wish that Lane was content to steal from others, but he has this urge to invent his own stuff.”

Mother Jones, a left wing intellectual publication described Lane as: “a huckster,” and “the Left’s leading hearse chaser.”


One of the many problems with Lane is shown in his book where he ignores many important witnesses but devotes 11 pages to a woman that worked as a Bartender at one of Ruby’s clubs two years before the assassination. As an example, just for you, he omits Press photographer Robert Jackson who, immediately after the three shots, he looked up to the TSBD and saw the 2 black men on the 5th floor straining to look up to the 6th. Following their line of sight he saw a rifle being drawn back into the 6th floor window. Talk about ‘selective.’ He ignores Jackson but waffles on for 11 pages about a bartender from 2 years earlier! He even failed to mention Johnny Brewer. This is the kind of evidence cherrypicking which I’d imagine that you would probably applaud.