JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[FISHY1118]

Lovelady and Oswald bore fare less resemblance than Grassy Knollington claims.

Unlike Oswald, Lovelady had an clear alibi, appearing in several photos and videos. they also show that Lovelady had very prominent bald spot in the back. Nobody seeing Lovelady from the side or rear would mistake the two.

While serving as an airman, Lovelady tried to sell three pistols that another man had stolen to a man that Lovelady knew was a police. Lovelady served no time, but was fined $200 for sale of stolen goods. Not for theft. Not for gunrunning. Not for smuggling. Lovelady was apprehended again in January 1961 for not paying the final $75. OV Campbell, VP of the Texas Book Depository paid the $75, with Lovelady paying the TSBD back out of his wages.



Ruby had no profitable business ventures. One dodgy source claimed Ruby was a gunrunner, but there is no evidence to support the claim.



* December 1961 - Lovelady gets a job for the TSBD. There's no evidence that he and Ruth Paine knew each other.
* September 1963 - Wesley Frasier gets a job for the TSBD.
* October 1963 - Ruth Paine, Marina Oswald, and some other women are having coffee at a neighbors. The topic of Lee Oswald's employment comes up and several possibilities are discussed. Linnie Mae Randall mentions that her brother, Wesley Frasier, recently got a job at the TSBD depository. Marina asks Ruth Paine to check if there were jobs available at the TSBD. Paine did so, even though she didn't know anyone at the TSBD.



Paine's father, William Hyde, worked for Nationwide Insurance, then for the United States Agency for International Development. He was not a former State Department official.



Dulles' mistress, Mary Bancroft was a friend of Ruth Forbes Paine, not a relative of Ruth Hyde Paine.

Fiver all youve given is an alternitve view , that doesnt mean what i post is wrong !!! [which you havent manage to prove ]. ALL this is what tthe warren commission failed to investigate ,hence the problem with the contradictions and inconsistancies.

[Fiver]

The few things we know (though documentation) is that federal law enforcement officers had briefed LHO on several occasions after his return to the USA. No documentation of these meetings has been released to the public.

I'm curious how anyone can read these sentences and not realize they blatantly contradict each other.

Remember, this man was a defector to the USSR and was allowed repatriation back to the US without so much as a day in a prison cell. Why? Well, the most apparent reason was he was an agent for some intelligence agency or was being watched by some intelligence agencies to see what or who he would contact now that he was back in the States if he was a defector.

The most apparent reason that Oswald wasn't arrested on his return is that stupidity isn't a crime.

Oswald was watched by the FBI, but they lost track of him for weeks at a time and only knew about the Mexico trip because the CIA told them.

Now, let's say he wasn’t a legitimate defector and had been ordered to infiltrate a group(s) or befriend a person or persons planning to threaten or assassinate the president. Let's say he warned his supervisors before the assassination, but something went wrong on the day of the assassination. Immediately after the assassination, he went home to gather his wits and proceed to a predetermined rendezvous that his supervisor had designated. While there, both LHO and his supervisor would confer on his progress as an informer in relative safety without raising suspicion. Say, a coffee shop? A laundromat? Maybe, a movie theatre? But once there, LHO may have realized that he had been set up as a fall guy as the murderer of JFK.

This speculation makes no sense and requires everyone involved to be inept idiots. For starters, Oswald's one attempt to infiltrate an anti-Castro Cuban group as woefully inept.

[FISHY1118]

Oswald had "confidential" security clearance, like all the other members of his unit. Lovelady was never a gun smuggler.

And their pictures show that the claim "both men looked nearly identical" is laughable.



Your source, Grassy Knollington, doesn't appear to realize that the US Customs Service and the FBI were separate law enforcement agencies. Ditto for the CIA and the ONI being separate intelligence agencies. At least it's smaller alphabet soup of agencies that Garrison had.

Then there's the total lack of evidence that Oswald worked for any of them.

Yes there is its right here . Oh and yes i have the link to their testimony . Please stop trying to suggest that Oswald wasnt employed by both the CIA and Fbi, theres just to much evidence that is the case . The more you opinionate the opposite ,just make you look worse.


In 1978 former CIA accountant James B. Wilcott swore under oath before the House Select Committee on Assassinations that Lee Harvey Oswald was a "regular employee" of the Central Intelligence Agency, and that Oswald received "a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work." Wilcott testified that he was told by other CIA employees that money he had personally disbursed to an encrypted account (RX-ZIM) was for "the Oswald project or for Oswald." Wilcott's testimony was kept secret for decades, but can now be read in full by
In 1996 former Deputy Counsel for the House Select Committee on Assassinations Robert Tanenbaum testified at the ARRB hearing in Los Angeles by saying, "the Attorney General of Texas, Henry Wade the District Attorney and Leon Jaworsky counsel to the Attorney General, on the transcript spoke to the Chief Justice and said in substance, as I recall, that they had information from unimpeachable sources that Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI."

[FISHY1118]

I'm curious how anyone can read these sentences and not realize they blatantly contradict each other.



The most apparent reason that Oswald wasn't arrested on his return is that stupidity isn't a crime.

Oswald was watched by the FBI, but they lost track of him for weeks at a time and only knew about the Mexico trip because the CIA told them.



This speculation makes no sense and requires everyone involved to be inept idiots. For starters, Oswald's one attempt to infiltrate an anti-Castro Cuban group as woefully inept.

Whats more strange is you cant make the connection .

[FISHY1118]

I'm curious how anyone can read these sentences and not realize they blatantly contradict each other.



The most apparent reason that Oswald wasn't arrested on his return is that stupidity isn't a crime.

Oswald was watched by the FBI, but they lost track of him for weeks at a time and only knew about the Mexico trip because the CIA told them.



This speculation makes no sense and requires everyone involved to be inept idiots. For starters, Oswald's one attempt to infiltrate an anti-Castro Cuban group as woefully inept.

Give up , the jigs up . and soon youll look silly when them files are released. 5 mins .48 sec in , Bang bang !!!!!!!! game over fellas





Let’s Chat: Did Mac Wallace Kill JFK for LBJ? #jfkassassination #1963 #kennedyfamily #lbj #kennedy - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Y2YFZV5sw&ab_channel=JessConnell

Let's chat about "Mac" Wallace, one of the men who has been credibly linked to the JFK assassination on November 22, 1963. In addition to known information a...

[GBinOz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Y2YFZV5sw&ab_channel=JessConnell

Thought you might like this one George , the truth is out about LBJ and Mac Wallace . Those prints that were suspected of being Wallaces in the TSBD were tru.


Go straight to 5.48 of this video, Its Game Changer. [ of course the ''why would he', ''why wouldnt he gang'' will scream fake A.I . The lone gunman Oswald shooter is all falling to bits . The Truth will out , and it has done with more to come .

Hi Fishy,

I was aware of all this information, but it is good to see it presented in one video.

There was a shouting match between JFK and LBJ on the morning of the motorcade as to who was to sit in the presidential car, Connally or Yarborough, with JFK winning and selecting Connally. It was well known that Wallace hated Yarborough. The fingerprint identification was made by the acknowledged pre-eminent expert of the time but was, of course, disputed. Unlike Oswald, there was no reason for Wallace to have been in the TSBD.

My personal opinion is that the TSDB and the Grassy Knoll shots (the later probably deliberately pulled to avoid Jackie) were a distraction or a false flag, with the throat and head shots coming from the SOUTH knoll.

I find myself agreeing with Doc Whatsit when he posted "I see no point in continuing this debate as both sides are well dug in, and irrelevant, stale and inaccurate information is being tossed about to justify opinions", although I don't agree as to which side is the source of the said "information".

I don't know if you have watched this film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNTBXOkLsaY&ab_channel=RetroRewindTV

It is worth watching for the stellar cast and the historical clips alone.

Cheers, George

[FISHY1118]

Hi Fishy,

I was aware of all this information, but it is good to see it presented in one video.

There was a shouting match between JFK and LBJ on the morning of the motorcade as to who was to sit in the presidential car, Connally or Yarborough, with JFK winning and selecting Connally. It was well known that Wallace hated Yarborough. The fingerprint identification was made by the acknowledged pre-eminent expert of the time but was, of course, disputed. Unlike Oswald, there was no reason for Wallace to have been in the TSBD.

My personal opinion is that the TSDB and the Grassy Knoll shots (the later probably deliberately pulled to avoid Jackie) were a distraction or a false flag, with the throat and head shots coming from the SOUTH knoll.

I find myself agreeing with Doc Whatsit when he posted "I see no point in continuing this debate as both sides are well dug in, and irrelevant, stale and inaccurate information is being tossed about to justify opinions", although I don't agree as to which side is the source of the said "information".

I don't know if you have watched this film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNTBXOkLsaY&ab_channel=RetroRewindTV

It is worth watching for the stellar cast and the historical clips alone.

Cheers, George

Thanks for the reply George . I guess it all comes down to which evidence one chooses is best for the fatal front head shot regarding the grassy knoll . I personally go with the more popular version, given the witnesses who were there and the certainty of their claims as to the direction of the shot . But thats just me .

Interesting tho seeing since you believe your location, im wondering now what ive found hard to reconcile you have shead more light to .That is the shooter !!! .Ive always had it pinned to ''two men'' and perhaps both may have been in those positions at the time of the third shot .

[FISHY1118]

The ''Rifle'' in the video footage being removed from the Tsbd was a 7.65mm Mauser . Not the rifle shown in the catalog pics of the Italian Carcano .



Was this evidence given in the ''Mock trial'' that found oswald guilty ? I should think not .





To be more clear, Since Oswald did not do this, nor order the rifle, acquire the bullets, assemble the rifle, etc... I see that the rifle evidence was created, planted as needed. And you will find this evidence self-corroborating. There is nothing outside the 3-5 items of evidence which relates to each other, which supports the story about Oswald and the rifle.

I firmly believe the rifle carried out was yet another prop. If there was a Mauser it was removed in much the same manner as the shells, and boxes were moved. I interested, here is why I think that.

One wonders, Why would these deputies risk being mistaken and put these observations down on an affidavit and sign them when they didn't need to say anything about seeing the caliber? (Whitman in Boone's statement is supposed to be Weitzman). And then Craig corroborates as well.... who was then ostracized for that and a number of other things.

[FISHY1118]

'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

Real evidence doesnt lie .






The wounds created in the WC tests took the side of the skull off and caused major damage to the right of the face



The tests done by the House Select Committee on Assassinations showed that the ammunition transited straight through the skull and completely destroyed the facial bone.



Neither damage is consistent with what we see in the "official" autopsy photos



Based on these tests, it seems unlikely that the 6.5 Western Cartridge ammunition cited as the ammunition that killed the President was, in fact, the ammunition that caused his head wound.

Either that, or the autopsy photo is a fake and does not represent the President's true wounds.

The Lone Nutters can't have it both ways: they can't have a conflict between the tests and the photos & Xrays and have them all be the truth.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that every test that was done for the Warren Commission, from the speed and accuracy of the rifle to the tests to replicate the condition of CE 399 after it struck bone, ''proved their conclusions wrong.''

[FISHY1118]

There are some jewels of research in the book "Murder From Within" by Fred Newcomb. The book originally came out in 1974; it pointed the finger directly at Lyndon Johnson and it was praised by none other than Barry Goldwater, who read the book after it came out in 1974. Goldwater by 1973 had come to the conclusion that Lyndon Johnson was behind the JFK assassination as he privately told people. "Murder From Within" was republished in 2011.

Fred Newcomb did a fine job of cataloguing the witnesses who smelled gunpowder at Dealey Plaza. He also determined that the wind direction was flowing from west to east at that moment. Remember the gust of wind that almost knocked off Jackie's pillbox as she turned right from Main Street to Houston St. (before the next left to the "Nightmare on Elm Street?")

For anyone who smelled gun powder in Dealey Plaza, there is absolutely NO WAY that it came from the 6th floor window of the TSBD. The most likely location? The grassy knoll, where most JFK researchers believe the head kill shot to JFK came from.


Better add these people to the list of , Liars , Morons , Mistaken, Never Existed . My my how it grows .




From "Murder From Within" by Fred Newcomb on the gunpowder witnesses:

***Motorcycle escort officer Billy J. Martin, riding one-half car length from the left rear fender of the Presidential limousine, recalled, “You could smell the gunpowder… you knew he wasn’t far away. When you’re that close, you can smell the powder burning. Why you—you’ve got to be pretty close to them… you could smell the gunpowder… right there in the street.”63 (Figure 3-7) “Nose” witnesses Sen. Ralph Yarborough rode in the second car behind the limousine. He smelled gunpowder in the street64 and said it clung to the car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital.65 He later commented, “. . . you don’t smell gunpowder unless you’re shooting at something up wind and it blows it back in your face…”65-a As noted, the motorcade headed into a breeze—photographs show bystanders’ skirts billowing in the wind. Two cars behind Yarborough was the Cabell car. Elizabeth Cabell said she “. . . was acutely aware of the odor of gunpowder.”66 She added Congressman Ray Roberts, seated next to her, had mentioned it also.67 According to press photographer Tom C. Dillard, two cars behind the Cabell car, he “. . . very definitely smelled gunpowder when the cars moved up to the corner [of Elm and Houston Streets].”68 Bystander ”69 At the time of the shots, patrolman Joe M. Smith moved from the intersection of Elm and Houston Streets toward the triple underpass.70 Patrolman Earle V. Brown, stationed 100 yards west of the underpass, heard the shots and then smelled gunpowder as the car sped beneath him.71 A police officer who was on the sixth floor of the depository shortly after the shooting failed to smell any gunpowder there.72 One newspaper summed it up: “. . . seconds later the cavalcade was gone. The area still reeked with the smell of gunpowder.”73 Shots from the sixth floor of the depository building would have caused no gunpowder smell in the street. ***

[Herlock Sholmes]

In 1978 former CIA accountant James B. Wilcott swore under oath before the House Select Committee on Assassinations that Lee Harvey Oswald was a "regular employee" of the Central Intelligence Agency, and that Oswald received "a full-time salary for agent work for doing CIA operational work." Wilcott testified that he was told by other CIA employees that money he had personally disbursed to an encrypted account (RX-ZIM) was for "the Oswald project or for Oswald." Wilcott's testimony was kept secret for decades, but can now be read in full by
In 1996 former Deputy Counsel for the House Select Committee on Assassinations Robert Tanenbaum testified at the ARRB hearing in Los Angeles by saying, "the Attorney General of Texas, Henry Wade the District Attorney and Leon Jaworsky counsel to the Attorney General, on the transcript spoke to the Chief Justice and said in substance, as I recall, that they had information from unimpeachable sources that Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the CIA and the FBI."

Where was all this in the warren commission ?

This wasn’t in the Warren Commission report because this guy didn’t step forward until well after the commission. He was a low level finance officer. He was a low level finance officer who claimed that off duty conversations led him to believe… It was known that officers like him were, by regulation and tradition, didn’t mix with the real agents and officials. He also claimed that Oswald was taken to Tokyo after returning from the Soviet Union which we know to be untrue.

So basically, a low level nobody, who produced no actual evidence for his claims, left the CIA in ‘66 and (surprise, surprise) got involved in left wing politics. He supported the anti-Vietnam movement and took an anti- government approach. He then waited around 15 years before coming forward with his ‘insights.’ Exactly the type of person to ‘support’ a conspiracy. Had he met Mark Lane? Another bullsh***er.

[Fiver]

Henry Wade mentioned the possibility of a second shooter at an evening press conference in Dallas.

Not exactly.

Reporter - “Has your [the district attorney’s] office closed its investigation into the death of President Kennedy?”

Wade - “No, sir.The investigation will continue on that, with the basis toward, and we have no concrete evidence that anyone assisted him in this, but the investigation , I'm sure, will go on with reference to any possible accomplice or person that assisted him in it.”

Reporter - “Do you have a suspicion?”

Wade - “I have no concrete evidence nor suspicions at present.”

Wade never discussed the possibility of a second shooter. Wade said there was no evidence of anyone helping Oswald, but that the possibility was still being investigated.

[Herlock Sholmes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Y2YFZV5sw&ab_channel=JessConnell

Thought you might like this one George , the truth is out about LBJ and Mac Wallace . Those prints that were suspected of being Wallaces in the TSBD were tru.


Go straight to 5.48 of this video, Its Game Changer. [ of course the ''why would he', ''why wouldnt he gang'' will scream fake A.I . The lone gunman Oswald shooter is all falling to bits . The Truth will out , and it has done with more to come .

Isn't there anything that you look at with a critical eye Fishy? You read something - you like it - so it must be true. You believe anything but stuff with actually evidence.

[Fiver]

Tippit was killed by Oswald. The suggestion that he was killed by someone else is laughable. Witness after witness.

Plus the ballistics evidence.

No Conspiracy that had framed Oswald for killing the President would have any reason to also frame him for killing a police.

[Fiver]

Clint Hill's March 9, 1964 Warren Commission testimony.

Clint Hill said:The president's head was in Mrs. Kennedy's lap, his eyes fix, and a gaping hole in the back of his skull.

That is not an accurate quite.

Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

*His eyes are fixed and I can see inside the back of his head.
*His eyes were fixed, and I could see inside the back of his head.

• It looked like someone had flipped open the back of his head, stuck in an ice-cream scoop and removed a portion of the brain...
• President Kennedy lay unmoving, a bloody, gaping, fist-sized hole clearly visible in the back of his head.

And these "quotes" are made up by your source. Clint Hill never said them in his Warren Commission Testimony.