JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Nobody identified Oswald by his jacket.

"He's a white male, about thirty, five eight, black hair, slender, wearing white jacket, a white shirt and dark slacks." - RW Walker (Call sign 85)

But we do know that.
Helen Markham picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
Johnny C. Brewer identified Oswald at the theater.
Ted Callaway picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
Barbara J. Davis picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
Virginia R. Davis picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
Sam Guinyard picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
Warren Reynolds identified Lee Harvey Oswald from a photograph. (Oswald was dead by the time police contacted him.)
William W. Scoggins picked Lee Harvey Oswald out of a lineup.
William Arthur Smith identified Lee Harvey Oswald from a photograph.

Tippit was killed with bullets from Oswald's pistol.
The discarded cartridges came from Oswald's pistol.
Oswald was carrying his pistol when arrested.
Oswald tried to shoot one of the arresting officers with his pistol.

Not only did Oswald not wear a jacket like that alleged by the Warren Commission to have been worn by the murderer, but he did not have hair like that worn by the murderer.

And not only that, but the detailed testimonies of Earlene Roberts and Domingo Benavides taken together give Oswald no more than seven minutes to get from the bus stop near his lodgings to the scene of the Tippit shooting.

The only way he could have done it was by taxi, but the murderer evidently had not just got out of a taxi when he encountered Tippit.

Your case against Oswald has just collapsed.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

The right rear portion of his head was missing.

It was lying in the rear seat of the car.

His brain was exposed.


(CLINT HILL'S TESTIMONY TO THE WARREN COMMISSION)


Everyone can see that the autopsy drawing above was faked.

[GBinOz]

Connally's clothing and the size of the wound to his back shows that the bullet was tumbling when it struck him in the back. Connally's clothing also showed no signs of bullet wipe. Those both show hat the bullet that struck Connally in the back had passed through another object first.

Analysis of the Zapruder film shows the front of Connnaly's jacket bulging out at frame 224.

So the evidence shows that Connally and JFK were struck at the same time and that Connally was struck by a bullet that had already passed through another object, with that object most likely being JFK.

Quoting Duncan MacPherson: “The bullets used in this assassination are much more resistant to deformation than most rifle bullets. The major effect in bullet 399 is ‘toothpasting’, i.e., a small amount of the lead core has been squeezed out of the jacket base like toothpaste from a tube. This probably occurred when the bullet hit Connally’s ribs at a high yaw angle …”

A “high yaw angle?” That would mean the bullet struck sideways. But the evidence, both internal and external, proves the bullet did not strike sideways. Why have supporters of the Single Bullet Theory been promoting this false information for decades?

Rationale: It struck sideways because it was tumbling; it was tumbling because it first went through John Kennedy’s neck—and, presto, proof of the SBT. The lie started with John Lattimer’s false claim that the wound in Connally’s back was 3cm long, the result of a sideways hit.

REALITY CHECK

External Damage: Original size of Connally’s back wound, before debridement, was only 1.5 cm—the same size allegedly as the entrance wound in Kennedy’s head. It was 3 cm after cleaning and enlarging—as Connally’s surgeon, Robert Shaw, M.D., testified. In his operative report, Shaw simply described the wound’s size after surgery, but in his testimony he said the original size was only 1.5 cm. And the holes in the back of Connally’s shirt and jacket were also 1.5 cm, per the FBI.

Internal Damage: According to Shaw, the bullet created a “small tunneling wound” . And he noted “the neat way in which it stripped the rib out without doing much damage to the muscles that lay on either side of it.”

So, obviously, MacPherson was promoting the SBT with false information…. As for this particular lie, its author is John Lattimer. Wounds and bullets are a bit like locks and keys, and Lattimer was an amateur locksmith. Since a tumbling bullet did not fit into Connally’s back wound, Lattimer changed the lock.

There is a rebuttal of Latimer's theories by Cyril Wecht here:

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/L%20Disk/Lattimer%20John%20Dr/Item%2003.pdf

[Fiver]

The Lunch Room was on the 2nd floor where Oswald claimed to be and was sighted, possibly by Mrs Arnold at around 12.15.

There were two lunch rooms. The one on the second floor was generally used by the clerical staff. The one on the first floor, also known as the domino room, was generally used by the warehouse staff.

Oswald did not claim to eat his lunch on the second floor.

"... he said that he was having his lunch about that time on the first floor. " - Captain Fritz

"OSWALD stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room"' - FBI Agent Hosty

"OSWALD stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees’ lunch room." - FBI Agent Bookhaut

She said he was at his own as was normal for him.

Mrs Arnold didn't say that until 1978. No one else who was in the second floor lunch room saw Arnold there. None of the five versions of Oswald's alaibi match up with Arnold's 1978 claims.

"Mrs. R. E. ARNOLD, Secretary, Texas School Book Depository, advised she was in her office on the second floor of the building on November 22, 1963, and left that office between 12:00 and 12:15 PM, to go downstairs and stand in front of the building to view the Presidential Motorcade. As she was standing in front of the building, she stated she thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of LEE HARVEY OSWALD standing in the hallway between the front door and the double doors leading to the warehouse, located on the first floor. She could not be sure that this was OSWALD, but said she felt it was and believed the time to be a few minutes before 12:15 PM."

Oswald later said, although the time was no recorded, that he saw two employees enter through the Domino Room which is one floor below the Lunch Room.

That is not what Oswald said.

"OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called ‘Junior’ and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize." - FBI Agent Bookhaut

So according to his own testimony he must have have moved from the 2nd to the 1st floor. Yet astonishingly and for reasons no WC advocate can ever explain, Oswald managed to tag two other employees who walked through the Domino Room. (At 12.23 by the way) How he managed this is inexplicable unless he was actually there, which I assume he was.

What's astonishing is that anyone believes Oswald's alibi.

Oswald tags Jarman as eating lunch in the domino room, which Jarman did not do.
Oswald doesn't tag Acre, Dougherty, or West eating lunch in the domino room, even though they did.
Norman did eat lunch in the domino room, but left sometime between 12:00 and 12:10.
Jarman, Norman, Acre, Dougherty, and West did not see Oswald at lunch.

Even if one believes this version of Oswald's story, his alibi ends when Hank Norman left the domino room, sometime between 12:00 and 12:10.

So Oswald is time barred from being the assassin of either JFK or Tippit He. was actually a double patsy.

Oswald is not time barred from committing either murder.

And a Conspiracy had no reason to kill JD Tippet or to frame Oswald for the killing.

[FISHY1118]

The right rear portion of his head was missing.

It was lying in the rear seat of the car.

His brain was exposed.


(CLINT HILL'S TESTIMONY TO THE WARREN COMMISSION)


Everyone can see that the autopsy drawing above was faked.

You bet it was a fake .

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

What's astonishing is that anyone believes Oswald's alibi.

What is astonishing is your silence in response to # 2506 (on proof that Oswald had insufficient time to get to the scene of Tippit's shooting), # 2507 (on proof that the autopsy 'photo' of the back of Kennedy's head was faked), # 2494 (Clint Hill's testimony), and # 2495 (Roberts' and Benavides' testimony).

[Fiver]

On page 79 of Jesse Curry's book, Assassination File, there is a copy of Oswald's arrest report.

His weight is recorded as 131 lbs.

Here's a copy of Oswald's Arrest Report.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338497/

It does not list Oswald's weight, let alone claim he only weighed 131 lbs.

Here's Oswald's Selective Service Card.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337625/

It gives Oswald's weight as 150 lbs.

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

The New Orleans police records of his arrest in August of 1963 show a weight of 136 pounds.

(Warren Commission Report Chapter 4 page 144)


Even according to the Warren Commission Report, he weighed only 136 lbs just three months before his final arrest, but you have been looking at the wrong document.

Warren Commission Exhibit 630 is reproduced below.

It records his weight as 131 lbs.

[Fiver]

Can you give an example of a bullet passing through someone's cervical vertebrae and then hitting someone else?

Why should I give examples of something that I didn't claim happened?

The bullet that struck JFK in the upper back grazed the cervical vertebrae, resulting in Thorburn's Position.

A bullet that directly hit JFK's cervical vertebrae would have severed the spinal chord.

[Fiver]

The New Orleans police records of his arrest in August of 1963 show a weight of 136 pounds.

(Warren Commission Report Chapter 4 page 144)


Even according to the Warren Commission Report, he weighed only 136 lbs just three months before his final arrest, but you have been looking at the wrong document.

Warren Commission Exhibit 630 is reproduced below.

It records his weight as 131 lbs.

Thank you for linking Oswald's Fingerprint Card, which does give his weight as 131 lbs.

I linked Oswald's Arrest Report, the document you incorrectly claimed listed Oswald's weight as 131 lbs.

I also linked Oswald's Selective Service Card, which gave his weight as 150 pounds.

Obviously, at least one of the official documents is wrong about his weight.

So lets apply common sense.

Do people grow an inch in height and lose five pounds of weight?

Do slender people lose five pounds of weight from serving in the military?

Do slender people lose five pounds of weight from working in a book warehouse?

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

The Warren Commission have him losing five pounds in three months.

That seems more credible than his gaining 14 pounds in three months.

There has been some discussion online about his possible weight at the time of his arrest based on the photographic evidence.

The consensus seems to be that he looked to be in the 130s.

[Fiver]

'There was no reason for the Conspiracy to frame Oswald for killing Tippit'

There certainly was, in fact two reasons have been put forward. Firstly it established Oswald in the public mind as a killer by mid afternoon on the 22nd November. There was no evidence clearly linking him to the JFK assassination at that time. Second, DPD officers apprehending Oswald -the presumed cop killer- would be likely to shoot on sight and remove him as a problem.

Killing Tippit was unnecessary to establishing Oswald as JFK's killer. JFK was shot with Oswald's rifle. Oswald's prints were on the rifle. And the bag Oswald used to carry the rifle. And the boxes used to form the sniper's nest. Fibers on the rifle matched Oswald's clothing. Fibers on the paper bag matched the blanket that Oswald kept his rifle in. Oswald had no alibi for the murder of JFK.

If a Conspiracy wanted Oswald dead before he could give his side of the story, murdering Officer Tippit was stupid, slow, ineffective, and overcomplicated way of doing it. The simplest way was having Oswald found dead in the sniper's nest of a "self-inflicted" bullet from his own pistol. Another simple way is having a single assassin tail Oswald and shoot him "resisting arrest" the first time there were no witnesses. Another simple way is have one false witness tell the police that the killer was Lee Harvey Oswald and count on the police or armed civilians to gun Oswald down.

I would acknowledge one thing: that Oswald- if it was indeed him- had a far greater motive to shoot Tippit than he ever did JFK. He realised he had been set up as a 'patsy' and would be very nervous about anyone who approached him.

As Herlock noted, that's the only credible Conspiracy theory explanation for the murder of Tippet - Oswld panicked and murdered Tippet. Of course, this reason still applies if Oswald was guilty.

But the timings are all in favour of Oswald not being at the scene- the one thing Helen Markham is liable to have got correct is her daily routine to catch a bus to work. Earlene Roberts' testimony is usually accepted by all parties. Add in nobody seeing Oswald on his journey from the rooming house alongside the testimony of Burroughs and Davis from the cinema and Oswald seems to have been elsewhere.

Earlene Roberts said Oswald arrived "around 1pm". Helen Markham's time estimate is problematic - 1:06 to 1:07 for the time of Tiippit's shooting. It is still possible, assuming Roberts and/or Markham was slightly off in their time estimates.

But Burrough's 1987 testimony is even more problematic. Initially, he said that he did not see Oswald enter the Theater. Almost 25 years later, in a statement where he falsely claimed to have been manager, Burroughs said he saw Oswald come in at 1PM.

Burrough's testimony would require Oswald to travel nearly two miles in a minute or less. I'm reasonably certain Oswald couldn't run at over 100 mph.

And while nobody saw Oswald between the rooming house and the scene of Tippet's murder, plenty of people saw a man they identified as Oswald between the scene of the Tippit murder and the Texas Theater. Plus Oswald was carrying the gun used to murder Tippet and tried to murder one of the arresting officers with it.

[Fiver]

The Warren Commission have him losing five pounds in three months.

That seems more credible than his gaining 14 pounds in three months.

Obviously you have never tried to lose weight.

There has been some discussion online about his possible weight at the time of his arrest based on the photographic evidence.

The consensus seems to be that he looked to be in the 130s.

The consensus among Conspiracy Theorists?

Here's another Oswald ID, giving his weight as 145 lbs.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340655/

[PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR 1]

Earlene Roberts said Oswald arrived "around 1pm". Helen Markham's time estimate is problematic - 1:06 to 1:07 for the time of Tiippit's shooting. It is still possible, assuming Roberts and/or Markham was slightly off in their time estimates.

I refer you to my # 2495, # 2506, and # 2511.

Taken together, Roberts' and Benavides' testimonies leave Oswald insufficient time to get to the scene of Tippit's shooting .

The same goes for Markham's.

[cobalt]

Firstly it established Oswald in the public mind as a killer by mid afternoon on the 22nd November. There was no evidence clearly linking him to the JFK assassination at that time.

I should have been clearer: there was no evidence available at that time. The fibre links, paper bag and fingerprints were developed later as evidence but were not available in the afternoon.

The simplest way was having Oswald found dead in the sniper's nest of a "self-inflicted" bullet from his own pistol.

Not so easy if Oswald was on the 1^st floor at the time of the assassination. And very tricky if his pistol was at the rooming house.

Another simple way is having a single assassin tail Oswald and shoot him "resisting arrest" the first time there were no witnesses.

Well that is a modified version of the Ruby execution, the one which fuelled the suspicion that lingers to this day. I don’t think this version would have been any more credible to the general public; less so actually, given there would have been no witnesses.

Another simple way is have one false witness tell the police that the killer was Lee Harvey Oswald and count on the police or armed civilians to gun Oswald down.

Johnny Brewer did his best.