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  • corey123
    Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1472

    #1

    New York. 1891

    Hi all,

    Does anyone know where I can find a map of New York from the time of Carry Browns death?

    Or any photos of the area, again around her death?

    Many thanks.
    Washington Irving:

    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

    Stratford-on-Avon
  • corey123
    Inspector
    • Nov 2009
    • 1472

    #2
    I am sure someone here must have a map of New York from 1891?

    Thanks
    Washington Irving:

    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

    Stratford-on-Avon

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    • DVV
      Suspended
      • Apr 2008
      • 6014

      #3
      Hi Corey,

      I'm sure I have none.
      And don't want any.

      Amitiés,
      David

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      • corey123
        Inspector
        • Nov 2009
        • 1472

        #4
        Hi David,

        Thanks for letting me know.

        Yours truly
        Washington Irving:

        "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

        Stratford-on-Avon

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        • corey123
          Inspector
          • Nov 2009
          • 1472

          #5
          This is the only, cannot realy call it a map, but a map of New York.
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          Washington Irving:

          "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

          Stratford-on-Avon

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          • Chris Scott
            Chief Inspector
            • Feb 2008
            • 1853

            #6
            The link below should be worth a look regarding 19th century maps of New York

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            • corey123
              Inspector
              • Nov 2009
              • 1472

              #7
              Hi Chris,

              Thanks alot.
              Washington Irving:

              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

              Stratford-on-Avon

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              • corey123
                Inspector
                • Nov 2009
                • 1472

                #8
                News

                Here are some news articals featuring "Old Shakespears" death.
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                Washington Irving:

                "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                Stratford-on-Avon

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                • corey123
                  Inspector
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1472

                  #9
                  Just for reference, I still want to see any maps or photos from New York city in 1891 and surrounding dates.

                  Thanks
                  Washington Irving:

                  "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                  Stratford-on-Avon

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                  • Roy Corduroy
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1654

                    #10
                    Thanks for the articles, Corey.

                    Try this link for a map. It's the fourth ward in 1891. You should be able to zoom in and go to the southeast corner of Water St and Catherine Slip. To the right of the Brooklyn Bridge approach.



                    Roy

                    ps let me know if that doesn't work and I'll just snag it and put it up.
                    Sink the Bismark

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                    • corey123
                      Inspector
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1472

                      #11
                      Hello Roy,

                      Thank you, it does work, and I appriciate it, and your welcome.

                      Many thanks!

                      Well worth the wait, have a good evening.
                      Washington Irving:

                      "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                      Stratford-on-Avon

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                      • Roy Corduroy
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1654

                        #12
                        Easst River Hotel

                        Simple map shows the location near the East River slips.
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                        1891 Closeup of corner of Catharine at Water St.
                        Notice the "market" in the middle of Catharine.
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                        View from the north With ships in the backgound.
                        Location of East River Hotel pointed out.
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                        Sink the Bismark

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                        • sdreid
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4956

                          #13
                          Wasn't Brown staying in room #31? If so, do we know where it was in the building? I would guess that it was on the floor just visible above the roof of the market. Perhaps I'm totally off.
                          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                          Stan Reid

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                          • corey123
                            Inspector
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1472

                            #14
                            Hello Roy,

                            Many thanks indeed, I truly appriciate these.

                            Stan,

                            I don't know, however Wolf Vanderlinden, if still around, probably knows.

                            I know Ben Ali A.K.A "frenchy" lived at No.33

                            Edit: Stan, yes she lived at No.31

                            Last Edit: From the New York Affair Part-One- Vanderlinden:

                            The reporters were able to freely interview witnesses, such as Miniter, and were allowed to tramp over the crime scene and examine all of the other rooms on the fifth floor. Outside of Room No. 31 they were either shown, or found themselves, two pieces of blood evidence. A bowl of bloody water, as if someone had washed blood off their hands, was discovered in Room No. 32 (this was never explained nor linked to the murder) and blood was found on the scuttle, or small trap door, leading to the roof of the building. As no one had seen “C. Kniclo” exit from the hotel it was supposed that he had escaped to the roof and from there either climbed down or entered the adjoining building from which he exited.
                            Last edited by corey123; 01-23-2011, 02:01 AM.
                            Washington Irving:

                            "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                            Stratford-on-Avon

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                            • corey123
                              Inspector
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1472

                              #15
                              From the Evening Post, Volume XLI, Issue 115, 16 May 1891, Page 2

                              Also seen in the Star, May 16, 1891

                              Also, the Feilding Star, May 16, under the title of "The New York "Jack the Ripper"
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                              Last edited by corey123; 01-24-2011, 01:15 AM.
                              Washington Irving:

                              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                              Stratford-on-Avon

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