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  • sdreid
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 4956

    #136
    At least according to Barnett.
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

    Stan Reid

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    • sdreid
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 4956

      #137
      Of course there's a question if she actually ever set foot in France.
      This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

      Stan Reid

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      • Michael W Richards
        Inactive
        • May 2012
        • 7122

        #138
        Originally posted by sdreid View Post
        Of course there's a question if she actually ever set foot in France.
        Barnett isnt the source for the reminicinces of a Marie Jeanette Stan, I think the fact that someone else suggests they knew her using that French conversion of her name makes it highly likely she did so to mingle with French people. Unless of course that was her "thing" at the brothel..in which case it might be a reason for utilizing her as a consort when traveling to France.

        Just sayin....

        Cheers Stan

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        • sdreid
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 4956

          #139
          Those all have to be considerations.
          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

          Stan Reid

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          • sdreid
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 4956

            #140
            I suspect that the French speaking population of Whitechapel was pretty small.
            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

            Stan Reid

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            • Cogidubnus
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2012
              • 3266

              #141
              Ironic perhaps, bearing in mind that until the influx of East European Jews, the French descended weaving community may well have been one of the East End's largest "immigrant" populations...

              All the best

              Dave

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              • Bridewell
                Commissioner
                • Apr 2011
                • 4038

                #142
                Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                I suspect that the French speaking population of Whitechapel was pretty small.
                If you count anyone born in France as being French-speaking, which seems reasonable, there were certainly a few. Obvious example Paul Alexandre Cadosch, 27, Hanbury Street (born Arras) & Charles Albert Cadosch (born Paris).
                I won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.

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                • sdreid
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4956

                  #143
                  Thanks for informing me Bridewell. I didn't recall that.
                  This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                  Stan Reid

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                  • sdreid
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4956

                    #144
                    Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                    Ironic perhaps, bearing in mind that until the influx of East European Jews, the French descended weaving community may well have been one of the East End's largest "immigrant" populations...

                    All the best

                    Dave
                    Then maybe it was a natural for Kelly.
                    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                    Stan Reid

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                    • curious4
                      Chief Inspector
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 1749

                      #145
                      France

                      Originally posted by Michael W Richards View Post
                      Barnett isnt the source for the reminicinces of a Marie Jeanette Stan, I think the fact that someone else suggests they knew her using that French conversion of her name makes it highly likely she did so to mingle with French people. Unless of course that was her "thing" at the brothel..in which case it might be a reason for utilizing her as a consort when traveling to France.

                      Just sayin....

                      Cheers Stan
                      Hello Michael,

                      She was reportedly taken to France by a "gentleman" but didn't like it there so came back more or less straight away. Certainly not there long enough to learn french. Provided the story was true, that is. Had she remained for any length of time, she would most probably have found it very difficult to leave. Girls were entrapped in brothels and were in effect prisoners there (see Henry Mayhew).

                      Best wishes,
                      C4
                      Last edited by curious4; 04-15-2013, 12:37 PM.

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                      • sdreid
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4956

                        #146
                        That makes sense C4.
                        This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                        Stan Reid

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                        • sdreid
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4956

                          #147
                          I don't see the point in going to France unless there was some premium placed on British women that I don't know about.
                          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                          Stan Reid

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                          • sdreid
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4956

                            #148
                            Maybe there was a premium on Irish women.
                            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                            Stan Reid

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                            • sdreid
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4956

                              #149
                              Or maybe Mary had hopes of passing herself as French.
                              This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                              Stan Reid

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                              • sdreid
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4956

                                #150
                                One of the C5 spoke a foreign language - that's all we can say for sure.
                                This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                                Stan Reid

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