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  • sdreid
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 4956

    #166
    Self sufficient is a bit of a stretch since 98% of them had nothing to do with their present situation.
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

    Stan Reid

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    • GUT
      Commissioner
      • Jan 2014
      • 7841

      #167
      G'day Stan

      But some of the self suffcient fell a long way.
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • sdreid
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 4956

        #168
        Yes, I don't think any of the victims were ever rich or in the upper class but some, at least Nichols and Chapman, were at one time in the labor class and fell from there.
        This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

        Stan Reid

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        • sdreid
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 4956

          #169
          Actually, all were probably at least in the labor class as children.
          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

          Stan Reid

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          • GUT
            Commissioner
            • Jan 2014
            • 7841

            #170
            And any fall is comparative, generally they couldn't have gone much lower.

            I guess MJK's next step down was a doss house.
            G U T

            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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            • Mayerling
              Superintendent
              • Feb 2008
              • 2762

              #171
              Interesting thread all.

              1) Nichols - only one of canonical 5 killed at end of August (if we add Tabram at start of month there are two in that month).
              2) Chapman - only one whose name is the same as that of a "wife" of a murderer (with the same last name) who is a leading suspect.
              3) Stride - apparently the tallest of the victims (hence her nickname)
              4) Eddowes - only one whom we know of who was killed within the same two hours after another victim.
              5) Kelly - only one whom we know could sing current sentimental ballads.

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              • sdreid
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 4956

                #172
                Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
                Interesting thread all.

                1) Nichols - only one of canonical 5 killed at end of August (if we add Tabram at start of month there are two in that month).
                2) Chapman - only one whose name is the same as that of a "wife" of a murderer (with the same last name) who is a leading suspect.
                3) Stride - apparently the tallest of the victims (hence her nickname)
                4) Eddowes - only one whom we know of who was killed within the same two hours after another victim.
                5) Kelly - only one whom we know could sing current sentimental ballads.
                Thanks Jeff, those are some interesting ones.
                This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                Stan Reid

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                • Prosector
                  Detective
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 207

                  #173
                  MJK was said several newspapers at the time to have been in service before becoming a prostitute, apparently quoting various of her friends that they had interviewed. This is highly probable since a large number, perhaps the majority, of prostitutes came into the profession by this route - they were known as dollymops as long as they were still earning part of their living as servants.

                  Prosector

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                  • sdreid
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4956

                    #174
                    Polly was certainly in service.
                    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                    Stan Reid

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                    • GUT
                      Commissioner
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7841

                      #175
                      Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
                      Interesting thread all.

                      1) Nichols - only one of canonical 5 killed at end of August (if we add Tabram at start of month there are two in that month).
                      2) Chapman - only one whose name is the same as that of a "wife" of a murderer (with the same last name) who is a leading suspect.
                      3) Stride - apparently the tallest of the victims (hence her nickname)
                      4) Eddowes - only one whom we know of who was killed within the same two hours after another victim.
                      5) Kelly - only one whom we know could sing current sentimental ballads.
                      G'day Jeff

                      No. 2 is wrong what about Kelly.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • sdreid
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 4956

                        #176
                        I don't have a good knowledge of the names of the spouses of all the suspects.
                        This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                        Stan Reid

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                        • sdreid
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4956

                          #177
                          Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                          I don't have a good knowledge of the names of the spouses of all the suspects.
                          Perhaps I should say significant others.
                          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                          Stan Reid

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                          • sdreid
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 4956

                            #178
                            Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                            Perhaps I should say significant others.
                            That's hard to keep track of when you are talking about somebody like George Chapman.
                            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                            Stan Reid

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                            • sdreid
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4956

                              #179
                              Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
                              5) Kelly - only one whom we know could sing current sentimental ballads.
                              Good one Jeff.
                              This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                              Stan Reid

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                              • sdreid
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4956

                                #180
                                I wonder where she heard the song.
                                This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                                Stan Reid

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