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  • #61
    Hi Sam,

    Very interesting.

    Are you suggesting that Liz Stride WAS NOT a "signature" Ripper murder?

    Regards,

    Simon
    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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    • #62
      Hi Simon,

      I'm actually suggesting that Stride was not a "Ripper" murder, period - signature or no signature. From my perspective, it's less a matter of "signature" and more one of logic. In short, I believe the "interruption" argument to be untenable, except inasmuch as it's used to shoe-horn the Ripper into culpability. The "interruption theory" is thus a circular argument which I can't entertain - not because I arbitrarily exclude Stride, but because circular arguments are null arguments as far as I'm concerned.

      In the absence of any other compelling indicator that the Ripper was at work (and this is where the "signature" bit might apply), I see nothing to support the belief that he was involved. Were it not for the "Double Event", which effectively canonised Stride from Day One (as well as spawning a host of other circular arguments about both Stride's and Eddowes' deaths), I'm sure Stride would be firmly on the "maybe" list along with Frances Coles.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
        Hi Simon,

        I'm actually suggesting that Stride was not a "Ripper" murder, period - signature or no signature. From my perspective, it's less a matter of "signature" and more one of logic. In short, I believe the "interruption" argument to be untenable, except inasmuch as it's used to shoe-horn the Ripper into culpability. The "interruption theory" is thus a circular argument which I can't entertain - not because I arbitrarily exclude Stride, but because circular arguments are null arguments as far as I'm concerned.

        In the absence of any other compelling indicator that the Ripper was at work (and this is where the "signature" bit might apply), I see nothing to support the belief that he was involved. Were it not for the "Double Event", which effectively canonised Stride from Day One (as well as spawning a host of other circular arguments about both Stride's and Eddowes' deaths), I'm sure Stride would be firmly on the "maybe" list along with Frances Coles.
        Other than a "maybe" list that would involve Coles, Im with you on the rest Gareth.....glad to have you on the good guys side on this issue.

        The ONLY argument for Liz Strides inclusion begins with a killer, not a victim, and thats just about the exact opposite way to solve a murder.

        Cheers Sam, all.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by perrymason View Post
          Other than a "maybe" list that would involve Coles
          When I said "maybe" I personally meant "probably not", Mike - others' mileage might vary
          The ONLY argument for Liz Strides inclusion begins with a killer, not a victim, and thats just about the exact opposite way to solve a murder.
          Whether or not it's the "only" argument, Mike, your point is excellently put.
          Last edited by Sam Flynn; 12-23-2008, 01:36 AM.
          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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          • #65
            Hi Sam,

            Thanks.

            Then you will agree that the Saucy Jacky postcard was a forgery?

            Regards,

            Simon
            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
              Hi Sam, Then you will agree that the Saucy Jacky postcard was a forgery?
              Without a shadow of doubt, Simon.
              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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              • #67
                Hi Sam,

                Yuletide agreement, no less. Hallelujah, my Christmas gift.

                Who'dya reckon penned Saucy Jacky?

                Regards,

                Simon
                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                  Hi Sam, Yuletide agreement, no less. Hallelujah, my Christmas gift.
                  Full of the festive spirit me, Simon
                  Who'dya reckon penned Saucy Jacky?
                  Well, let's just put it this way - for a Saucy Jacky thread this ain't - I don't think it was Michael Kidney
                  Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                  "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                  • #69
                    Hi Sam,

                    Even you, the Welsh Wizard of nonsense, can't get away with such a feeble-cop-out as that.

                    Meet'cha on a thread of your choice.

                    We'll draw when the town clock strikes midday.

                    Regards,

                    Simon
                    Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                    • #70
                      This is some sort of Christmas miracle....the stars are alligned, one of us is drunk...to have such agreement....well, Im speechless.......................yep

                      Sam, the key to the Executive Good Guy washrooms, and the passwords for the various clubs affiliated around the world will be there before New Years, but they said it would take some time to carve your face into the totem pole were making due to artisans holidays. The nerve, eh?

                      All the best chums and chumettes.

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                      • #71
                        Hi Michael,

                        Stand by with the coffin while I light my cheroot.

                        Cue Ennio Morricone.

                        Regards,

                        Simon
                        Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                          Hi Michael,

                          Stand by with the coffin while I light my cheroot.

                          Cue Ennio Morricone.

                          Regards,

                          Simon
                          Its filled with brandy as prescribed in the Good Book Grand Inquisitor, ...sim sala bim.

                          Nice to have a laugh out loud with you feller's.

                          Cheers.

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                          • #73
                            Hi Michael,

                            Please make sure Miss Kitty, the finest piece of ass this side of the Rio Grande, is out of the line of fire.

                            Thanks.

                            Simon
                            Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                            • #74
                              You know Simon.... Im just enamoured with Texans. They think they are a Republic, and the lazy drawls are so easy to pick up for the transplants. My sister raises horses and great danes in Texas....I love the fact that my part Hungarian sister, raised in Scarborough. Ontario, sends me Christmas cards that read like Anne Richards or George Bush wrote em.

                              Its all one planet now....so best to just say "vive le difference".

                              All the best Simon.

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                              • #75
                                Yahoo, Michael,

                                Well said.

                                Hi All,

                                I'm standing here on Main Street, Colt 45 sixed-up, holster slicked, poncho cleaned, pressed and fragranced courtesy of Brother Love's Travelling Laundry, boots so highly polished they'll dazzle all-comers, cheroot freshly lit—yet still no sign of the Mighty Flynn.

                                Guess I'll have to mosey on down to Kosminski's, Ostrog's or Druitt's saloon, order a Macnaghten on the rocks and wait for them bat doors to swing open.

                                Who draws wins.

                                Regards,

                                Simon
                                Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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