6d. Did Liz spend it, or die for it?

[curious]

Hello Velma. Thanks.

"I suspect that the way a "lady of easy virtue" acted when conducting business might be very different from what she would do when considering a potential "real" relationship."

Business like, perhaps?

Cheers.
LC

No, Lynn,
You seem to have completely missed the point I was trying to make.

A working girl might have been "all business" when working, but when facing the possibility of what she believed might be an actual relationship with some promise --- well, I suspect business flew out the window and she might have been ruled by "emotion" or hormones, or whatever the devil rules such things.

[lynn cates]

first order of business

Hello Velma. Thanks.

"I suspect that the way a "lady of easy virtue" acted when conducting business might be very different from what she would do when considering a potential "real" relationship."

Business like, perhaps?

Cheers.
LC

[curious]

Hi caz
I think stride may have met her man in or around a pub first (best and gardner) and spent some time with him walking around (marshal and PC smith)as they played their little game of cat and mouse. He trying to get her into an alleyway and she playing hard to get. They just happened to be by the club when the sh1t hit the fan, so to speak.

Abby,
Thanks for this. It's worded in just such a way that I feel echoes from some of the other canonicals.

curious

[curious]

Hello Abby.

"she playing hard to get"

A lady of easy virtue playing hard to get? Might be an oxymoron on the order of "free-spending Scotsman."

Cheers.
LC

Actually, I suspect that the way a "lady of easy virtue" acted when conducting business might be very different from what she would do when considering a potential "real" relationship.

Anyone else have ideas in this area?


curious

[Wickerman]

Hi caz
I think stride may have met her man in or around a pub first (best and gardner) and spent some time with him walking around (marshal and PC smith)as they played their little game of cat and mouse. He trying to get her into an alleyway and she playing hard to get. They just happened to be by the club when the sh1t hit the fan, so to speak.

I'm not sure if you just said what I think you just said..

If you did, why have you been quiet for so long...

[lynn cates]

oxymoron

Hello Abby.

"she playing hard to get"

A lady of easy virtue playing hard to get? Might be an oxymoron on the order of "free-spending Scotsman."

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

cutting remarks

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

Did not the doctor say between 12.46 and 12.56? But if Dimshits arrived at 1.00 . . . ?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

"Lookin' for love in all the wrong places."

Hello Caroline.

"I think I would have given up before hanging around that club at gone half past midnight"

Or looking for a client there.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

evidence

Hello CD. Thanks.

"What actual evidence are you using to conclude that the knife cut to Liz was by a different hand from the previous murders?'

Um, haven't we done this about a million times already? Besides, one does NOT begin by assuming two things go in the same category--one must have a good reason to lump them together. Of course, they were knife murders AND females.

"I was always under the impression that explaining something away was in fact explaining it."

Not really. It is usually grasping at straws to make X "go away."

"And I think you have your heart set on not Jack."

Actually, it was the other way about, just a few years ago. But now, it's all a pleasant enough joke.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

temper

Hello Caroline Thanks.

"You seem to think her killer could have judged in the darkness that he had inflicted a fatal cut, but one which would leave her bleeding to death rather than end her suffering instantly."

What if it were merely a gust of temper?

Cheers.
LC

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby,

I don't know about anyone else, but if I had spent all Saturday evening, and all the cash I had on me, looking for a new boyfriend, I think I would have given up before hanging around that club at gone half past midnight, still hoping my cachous and flower would do the trick.

I'm not sure what type of boyfriend Stride could have expected to attract, standing outside such a venue at that hour - presumably one who thought she was soliciting but wouldn't hold it against her.

Love,

Caz
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Hi caz
I think stride may have met her man in or around a pub first (best and gardner) and spent some time with him walking around (marshal and PC smith)as they played their little game of cat and mouse. He trying to get her into an alleyway and she playing hard to get. They just happened to be by the club when the sh1t hit the fan, so to speak.

[curious4]

Yes, but

Hello Gwyneth. Thanks.

"the killer had evidently just attacked when Diemschutz's horse shied"

Not so evident. What IS evident is that it was a matter of only a few minutes.

Cheers.
LC

Hello Lynn,

True... but, she was bleeding when she was found. Dr Blackwell and his assistant both said that she would have bled to death comparatively slowly from the cut (I have seen from one to two minutes quoted, but can't find the source just now). From what I have been able to see (admittedly from the internet) it can take from 90 seconds to five minutes to bleed to death from a cut throat, most probably the shorter time without medical help. Dr Blackwell arrived at 01.16, his assistant about five minutes earlier, and the bleeding had stopped, with the blood on the ground clotted. In my opinion (and just that) that points to her having her throat cut just a few seconds before Diemschutz arrived. She was still bleeding when the men came out of the club to look at her.

Best wishes,

Gwyneth

[caz]

I dont think Stride was on a date (or waiting for her date) nor do I think she was prostituting herself that night. i take the middle ground-i think she was out looking for a new boyfriend. I think she found one, but unfortunately for her it was the ripper. And since she was not prostituting herself is why she ended up with only a cut throat and not mutilated.

i beleive she may have spent her 6d on some cachous and a flower to make herself attractive to a new potential mate.

Hi Abby,

I don't know about anyone else, but if I had spent all Saturday evening, and all the cash I had on me, looking for a new boyfriend, I think I would have given up before hanging around that club at gone half past midnight, still hoping my cachous and flower would do the trick.

I'm not sure what type of boyfriend Stride could have expected to attract, standing outside such a venue at that hour - presumably one who thought she was soliciting but wouldn't hold it against her.

Love,

Caz
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[c.d.]

Hello Lynn,

What actual evidence are you using to conclude that the knife cut to Liz was by a different hand than the previous murders?

I was always under the impression that explaining something away was in fact explaining it.

And I think you have your heart set on not Jack.

c.d.

[caz]

Hi Lynn,

Do you see an experienced hand in Stride's murder then? You seem to think her killer could have judged in the darkness that he had inflicted a fatal cut, but one which would leave her bleeding to death rather than end her suffering instantly.

While I could imagine our unfriendly neighbourhood cut-throat being able to pull off something like this, I'm not so sure if this was a one-off by some knife-happy, possibly tipsy Saturday night oaf.

Love,

Caz
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