Diemschutz arrival

[lynn cates]

fist

Hello Jon. Thanks.

"Why wouldn`t she make a fist around them to defend herself instead of dropping them and slapping her assailant."

Well, we know she DIDN'T make a fist around them. They were held between her thumb and forefinger. That is clearly not a fist.

"Signs of a struggle, well, she may have liked to wear it that way but wasn`t her scarf pulled tight and to the side."

Most ladies with whom I have experience wear them straight. Hers was pulled left. This indicates a pulling of her scarf.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

forensics

Hello Abby. Thanks.

"He may pulled her into the yard or maybe she ran into the yard to get away (and towards the voices she heard coming from the club) and he followed her in and caught her there. Also, either one of these scenarios could have occured before or after he cut her throat."

Ran into the yard AFTER her throat was cut? I'll have to think about that one.

"And I don't care about the stupid cachous argument."

Very well. Perhaps you would not be bothered by the following argument.

1. Decedent has one gunshot wound to the back.

2. Decedent has no exit wound.

3. Assailant claims self defense ("He was coming towards me. I told him, 'Stop.' He didn't. I fired once into the chest.")

4. We rule it a case of justifiable homicide--self-defense.

"Many victims of violent crimes and accidents for that matter are found still clutching something in there hands."

Absolutely agree. And in each case, the undropped object allows us a way to reconstruct what happened at the moment of death.

"Bottom line is you either believe Scwartz or you dont, and until there is any evidence that a witness is lying/wrong then I beleive them. And since he is the last witness to see her alive and also witnessed her being assaulted by a man- chances are that man is her killer."

IF the story is true, THEN most likely BS did for Liz. Of course, the forensics conundrum MUST be dealt with.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Well, we know she DIDN'T make a fist around them. They were held between her thumb and forefinger. That is clearly not a fist.

This is how they were found after death, and Blackwell noted that her hand had relaxed it`s grip.

Most ladies with whom I have experience wear them straight. Hers was pulled left. This indicates a pulling of her scarf.

Yes, exactly, the sign of a struggle that I mentioned.

[lynn cates]

relax

Hello Jon. Thanks.

Very well. Have you a good explanation about how the cachous can move from fist to fingers AFTER her grip relaxed?

If you equate pulling her scarf with struggle, I'm game. But the medicos and police preferred to express it in other terms.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hello again Lynn

Very well. Have you a good explanation about how the cachous can move from fist to fingers AFTER her grip relaxed?

Gravity ?

If you equate pulling her scarf with struggle, I'm game. But the medicos and police preferred to express it in other terms.

I count the throat cut as part of the ensuing struggle.

[lynn cates]

Are you suggesting that cachous migrate?

Hello Jon. Thanks. All I can offer is this. Take a tissue. Place some cachous (or match tips) in it. Put it in your palm and make a fist. Now, lie down and slowly let your grip relax.

If you find the cachous migrating from palm to fingertips, then I owe you a pint.

Cheers.
LC

[sleekviper]

Hello Jon
Thanks again. That seems odd; if the total time spent is six minutes from knock on Blackwell's door to checking his watch at the scene, why are people not leaving together? By the time there is a knock, answer, explanation, decision to send assistant, dress, and go, only two to two and a half minutes have passed. So they leave 20 to 30 seconds apart? The odd thing about that, besides the nano second timing, is why on earth would he want to walk alone, for the sake of 20 to 30 seconds, with a killer running about? Seems odd but whatever.

[Garza]

Hello Jon. Thanks. All I can offer is this. Take a tissue. Place some cachous (or match tips) in it. Put it in your palm and make a fist. Now, lie down and slowly let your grip relax.

If you find the cachous migrating from palm to fingertips, then I owe you a pint.

Cheers.
LC

You owe me a pint Lynn, just did it, 3 out of 5 times, tissue migrated to fingertips. Mines a Guinness, cheers.

[DVV]

Garza, you're killing the Scot.
What about a Murphy's ?

[lynn cates]

supernatural

Hello Garza. Post it to YouTube.

When your hand opened, how did the cachous insinuate themselves between your fingers?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Natural

I knew you wouldn't pay

[Tom_Wescott]

Hello Jon. Thanks. All I can offer is this. Take a tissue.

Hi Lynn. Your theorizing has been known to reduce a grown man to tears.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[sleekviper]

Wait a minute, 3 out of 5? LOL, it is the first attempt that counts, how did that go? If not so well, Lynn, you owe me a pint.

[lynn cates]

shedding tears

Hello Tom. For crying out loud! (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[harry]

I see nothing wrong with the actions of Diemshutz.All he could surmise from the light of the match was that a seemingly dead person was lying there.How would he know from that quick glance that the person had been murdered. So I do not think he would be expexting a killer to be present
What was done to Stride,if witnesses are to be believed,w as either done in almost total darkness,or after a suitable period which enabled the killer's sight to adjust to the conditions.I think finding the edges of the scarf in darkness,might be a bit tricky.