Liz Stride Re-Enactment

[lynn cates]

Berner st

Hello CD. What potential customer? We're talking about Berner st.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

C.D. wrote:
You keep this up Lynn and eventually you will have Liz on the grassy knoll in Dallas.
I was tempted to say something like that too. Still, when in Paris I'll have a look at the secret police's files for the Le Grand dude (under all his con names). Can you imagine if I find him listed, somehow linked together with the Okhrana? (Which I very much doubt, but why not look? It can't hurt...)

[c.d.]

Hello Maria. Yes, Liz was registered, at an early age, in Sweden, as a prostitute.

That does not, however, indicate:

1. If she was a prostitute later in life.

2. If she were "on duty" when killed.

I did not say that Liz was a spy. Of course, ask Simon Wood and he has a good ad from Slater's detective agency for female spies who are otherwise charwomen and match girls.

By the way, why did Liz leave Michael on Tuesday? Why did she say she was working amongst the Jews? Why were some tenants of the lodging house talking about seeing Liz constantly on Fashion st "where she worked"?

And why was it said of Kate that she was working amongst the Jews? And why did she give the police an address of Fashion st?

Coincidences?

Now, were you saying something about far fetched? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

You keep this up Lynn and eventually you will have Liz on the grassy knoll in Dallas.

c.d.

[mariab]

Precisely, C.D.. Just like a cabbie. Off-duty, but might still decide to take clients.

[c.d.]

Even if Liz was "off duty" that night, how was a potential customer supposed to know that? A single woman by herself out late at night could very well be a prostitute. And even if it was her intent to take a night off might she change her mind when approached by a potential customer?

c.d.

[mariab]

Hello Lynn,
Yes, I know of the “coincidences“ linking the IWMC to the match girls' strike, and that Stride was allegedly fluent in Yiddish and working among Jewish tailors. That's why I said “far fetched“ and not “impossible“. But was Stride (and Eddows) indeed SEEN on Fashion Street, or did they just give it as a fake address, for commodity?
Lynn Cates wrote:
Why were some tenants of the lodging house talking about seeing Liz constantly on Fashion st. "where she worked"?
The underlined part is everything but a fact.
Lynn, in the night of September 30 Stride was seen thrice with a different man, changing her partner in intervals of about 45`minutes. Now, what do you think?

[lynn cates]

report

Hello Maria. Yes, Liz was registered, at an early age, in Sweden, as a prostitute.

That does not, however, indicate:

1. If she was a prostitute later in life.

2. If she were "on duty" when killed.

I did not say that Liz was a spy. Of course, ask Simon Wood and he has a good ad from Slater's detective agency for female spies who are otherwise charwomen and match girls.

By the way, why did Liz leave Michael on Tuesday? Why did she say she was working amongst the Jews? Why were some tenants of the lodging house talking about seeing Liz constantly on Fashion st "where she worked"?

And why was it said of Kate that she was working amongst the Jews? And why did she give the police an address of Fashion st?

Coincidences?

Now, were you saying something about far fetched? (heh-heh)

Cheers.
LC

[Fisherman]

Ben:

"everyone's mileage may vary"

It does. A lot.

"don't even contemplate mentioning cutaway coats!"

Well, somebody just did ...

the best,
Fisherman

[Ben]

As I've noted before:

The descriptions of the broad-shouldered man at Berner Street and the sailor-like man at Church Passage are easily similar enough to enable the inference that they were the same individual. A sailor-like appearance would have blended into the former location, being close to the docks, but not the latter.

The man described by William Marshall shares less similarity with these two descriptions, to my mind, and probably referred to a different individual.

Those are my feelings on that subject, and everyone's mileage may vary, of course.

But don't even contemplating mentioning cutaway coats!

[mariab]

OK, Fish, Schwartz.

[mariab]

Lynn cates wrote:
Quote Roy Cordyroy:
"Liz Stride had been interacting on the street, at night with men, for some years."
If there is hard evidence for this I'd be delighted to see it. It would clear up a good deal of the mysteries surrounding Liz's death. Perhaps I've overlooked that piece of evidence?
The most decisive evidence for this, Lynn, is the police report of her death, which begins “Elizabeth Stride, prostitute“. If you look up in the casebook thread Did Jack killed Stride?, Tom Wescott quotes this police report somewhere between page 8-14 of this thread. I'm attaching a link to page 6 of the thread (terribly sorry, no time to locate the quote more precisely for you right now ) :http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=3703&page=5
Your suspicion of a political assasination Stride's is VERY far fetched, Lynn, but, especially if it turns out that a certain detective agency was involved, I'm willing to research it. Still, Stride was definitely a prostitute. Don't tell me that you're considering the possibility that Stride was a spy?

[Fisherman]

Good point - that would be Schwartz and not BS, of course.

The best,
Fisherman

[mariab]

Fisherman wrote:
You´d be amazed to learn how many killers of women are in their thirties, David. You would not, however - I take it from your last post - be amazed if one or both of Lawende and BS man got the age wrong, would you?
I don't understand your post, Fish. Are you considering BS as a witness? That can't be...

[lynn cates]

prostitutes?

Hello DVV. Prostitutes? Perhaps an assumption? And if they were, how do we know that they were "on duty"?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Liz & men

Hello Roy.

"Liz Stride had been interacting on the street, at night with men, for some years."

If there is hard evidence for this I'd be delighted to see it. It would clear up a good deal of the mysteries surrounding Liz's death. Perhaps I've overlooked that piece of evidence?

Cheers.
LC