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  • Stephen Thomas
    Chief Inspector
    • Feb 2008
    • 1728

    #1

    Stephenson Related Pictures

    The laugh a minute stuff in the Scotland Yard suspects file regarding MrS (aka Sudden Death ho ho ho) with pantomime buggery in hospital wards etc throws up a couple of interesting facts. One is that Stephenson was living in a lodging house at #29 Castle Street in the St. Martins Lane area in 1888.

    Here's an 1880s map showing Castle Street. It's in the bottom right quarter, just north of Long Acre.
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    Castle Street is now called Shelton Street
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    Here is today's #29 Shelton Street, the building beyond the drainpipe. The red doorway is 29B, the one to its left 29A. So this is a photo of where Stephenson was living in 1888, for what it's worth.

    More to come.
    allisvanityandvexationofspirit
  • Stephen Thomas
    Chief Inspector
    • Feb 2008
    • 1728

    #2
    Whoops

    Forgot to post the last picture above. Here it is, 29 Castle/Shelton Street
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    • Howard Brown
      *
      • Feb 2008
      • 770

      #3
      Dear Stephen:

      Don't look now...but I have some more laughs for you and everyone else regarding yet another hoax within the Hoax of Donston. Check out the "Davis Ward Hoax" thread here on Casebook....

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      • Stephen Thomas
        Chief Inspector
        • Feb 2008
        • 1728

        #4
        The Prince Albert pub had the address 5 Upper St Martins Lane. This is what is now 7 Upper St Martins Lane, looking like it could once have been a pub. If it was then it would have been the first pub Stephenson came to at the end of Castle Street where he was living in 1888.
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        Here's Castle/Shelton Street looking west
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        And looking east from Upper St Martins Lane with Stephenson's lodging house in the distance.
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        Does anyone have an ordnance survey map that shows a PH at this location, ie the junction of Upper St Martins Lane, Tower Street and Litchfield Street?
        allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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        • Rob Clack
          Inactive
          • Feb 2008
          • 1708

          #5
          Hi Stephen,

          I've only got a 1870 and 1914 O.S. of the area.

          1870

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          • Rob Clack
            Inactive
            • Feb 2008
            • 1708

            #6
            I don't know if any of these directories from 1895 are of any use.

            Upper St Martins Lane

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            Castle Street

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            Rob

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            • Stephen Thomas
              Chief Inspector
              • Feb 2008
              • 1728

              #7
              Hello Rob

              Very many thanks for that. So it looks like The Prince Albert pub was the one directly below where it says 'urinal' on the second map and therefore that's my theory down the urinal as I was thinking it was two doors up. By the way, Stringfellows Club (these days) is directly between the two PHs on the right hand side of the first map.
              allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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              • Rob Clack
                Inactive
                • Feb 2008
                • 1708

                #8
                Originally posted by Stephen Thomas View Post
                By the way, Stringfellows Club (these days) is directly between the two PHs on the right hand side of the first map.
                That's good to know

                Rob

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                • Stephen Thomas
                  Chief Inspector
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1728

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rob Clack View Post
                  I don't know if any of these directories from 1895 are of any use.
                  Thanks again, Rob. Yes that definitely places the Albert which isn't there now. The building I thought it was (#7) used to be a Chemist's shop. The listings for Castle Street are a surprise. For instance the odd and even numbers, north and south side of the street are reversed and no lodging house is mentioned. Do you know if there was a Castle Street in the Houndsditch area? All this Stephenson stuff is very confusing.
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                  • Mike Covell
                    Superintendent
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 2957

                    #10
                    Wow wonderful stuff guys, you should take a quick look at my "Stephenson and Family" Thread on here, which shows the places in Hull and Islington he had links to!!
                    Regards Mike

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                    • Rob Clack
                      Inactive
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1708

                      #11
                      Hi Stephen,

                      Not all Lodging Houses were mentioned. I don't know what the criteria was to get your name in. None of the lodging houses in Dorset Street are in there, but I found some mentioned in Poplar.

                      There was a Castle Street that ran off Houndsditch. It was renamed Goring Street between 1888 and 1894. Its still there today, at least the layout is as I think it is mostly modern offices like the rest of Houndsditch.

                      Here it is on the 1873 large scale O.S. Map. about middle left.
                      Cuttler Street is still there by that name.

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                      1882 directory
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                      1895 directory for Goring Street and our old friend at number 10
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                      Rob

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                      • Stephen Thomas
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1728

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
                        Wow wonderful stuff guys, you should take a quick look at my "Stephenson and Family" Thread on here, which shows the places in Hull and Islington he had links to!!
                        Thanks Mike

                        I'd managed to miss that thread somehow. Excellent work. Well done.

                        Best (Humberside) wishes
                        allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                        • Stephen Thomas
                          Chief Inspector
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1728

                          #13
                          Hi Rob

                          You're really spoiling me with these maps and directories. So that's where Dr Davies of Davis Ward lived. And what a coincidence that his accuser is living in another Castle Street.

                          Many thanks
                          allisvanityandvexationofspirit

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                          • David Knott
                            Constable
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 81

                            #14
                            Rob,

                            Castle street was actually renamed Goring Street in March 1885, which makes it interesting that D'Onston referred to it by its old name.

                            David

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                            • David Knott
                              Constable
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 81

                              #15
                              Goring St a couple of years ago...
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