Stephenson Related Pictures

[Suzi]

C@CK and Pye cont

Right!- a bit of a challenge here.... but have found two references in Shakespeare's 'The Merry Wives of Windsor' as I type and somewhere in the next link is the phrase used too

http://www.victorianlondon.org/publications/sala-15.htm

Tantalisingly there seems to be loads of pubs in the Ipswich/Suffolk area with this name too.... Come in Grey Hunter!!!!
Hmmmmmm

[Suzi]

SERIOUSLY OLDE WORLDE Pubbe here!!!. .. But the name's right! Just above the Sky sports sign etc etc hehe!.... God I hope it's nobody's local here!!!!!!
S'in Ipswich!

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi David

Many thanks for the info and pictures. Our Dr Davies was certainly a handsome fellow. I just noticed that there are two interesting names opposite Castle Street on Rob's post#11 map, Fireball Court and C*ck a Hoop Lane.

Hi Colin

Brilliant work as always So now we know exactly where The Prince Albert pub and Stephenson's lodging house were. Here are the old houses opposite the lodging house which would have been on the left at the top of the picture.


And here is the view from the opposite direction. The lodging house would have been on the near right.


Lastly, the pub was where the building with the large window is on the very left of this photo. The redbrick building, by the way, is the office of Equity, the British actor's union.

[Rob Clack]

This is 119 Houndsditch in 1910, behind this building the Houndsditch murders occured. 119 Is also directly opposite Castle/Goring Street.



Rob

[Stephen Thomas]

Mention of Seven Dials earlier reminded me of an interesting thread in Pub Talk on the 'lost' boards. Suzi posted a colourised Victorian photo supposedly taken outside an East End pub which prompted several jokes.Here it is.


From the street sign on this photo I was able to tentatively place the location as Seven Dials.


What fun it was to find that the building was still there.


What has this got to do with Stephenson?

Well here's the man himself.


Seven Dials is a literal stones throw from Castle Street and the man on the photo looks very like Stephenson. Check that moustache! Could this be him expounding his theory to George Marsh???????

Hmmmm

[Mike Covell]

For the earlier years of Robert D'Onston Stephenson, his family and the places they lived and worked look here

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=45

It also contains the most complete chronology to date on the man and his family, loads of photos, maps, and other intresting bits of info.

[Sam Flynn]

Hi Stephen,

Oddly enough a cut glass decanter turned up on BBC's Bargain Hunt the other day, and I could swear it was etched with the legend "Greenlees Whisky". Whatever, I was reminded instantly of that thread. Thanks for resurrecting those images and giving them the "then and now" treatment.

[Septic Blue]

What fun it was to find that the building was still there.
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And again, Stephen !!!


Queen Street, St. Giles in the Fields
looking northeast from Seven Dials, February 2007

The red-brick building in the background was the British Lying-In Hospital, which stood at the corner of Endell Street and Short's Gardens, St. Giles in the Fields. Just opposite, on the north side of Short's Gardens (to the left), stood one of the entrances to the St. Giles in the Fields & St. George Bloomsbury Workhouse, depicted below:


"The Crawlers"
Entrance to St. Giles in the Fields & St. George Bloomsbury Workhouse
circa 1877

The woman was minding the child of a friend, who had found work in a coffee house.

Once again; those folks in the West End had it so easy !!!


Colin

[Stephen Thomas]

those folks in the West End had it so easy !!!

Indeed, Colin. NOT!!!

As we know there were rookeries everywhere in London then and St Giles was the very worst of the lot.

Best wishes

p.s. Couldn't make Wembly today, just as well given the result, but mightr be there for the play off final if things go well.

[Sam Flynn]

Once again; those folks in the West End had it so easy !!!

Folks should remind themselves of that from time to time, Colin - noting the irony in your comment first, of course!

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

The original name of Seven Dials was C*ck and Pye Fields.

Regards,

Simon

[Observer]

Hi

I realise that this is of no important consequence but I have a friend (whose family originate from the Yorkshire area,) who is the spitting image of Robert D Stephenson. The resemblence is uncanny, next time I see him I intend to ask him if it would be possible to take a photo of him and post it here in this thread.

Observer

[Stephen Thomas]

Of marginal importance to the great scheme of Ripperology, but maybe of interest to some, here are a couple of pictures of Pratt Street in Camden Town, North London close to where I live.





Stephenson's 'pseudo detective' pal who he met in a pub on Upper St Martins Lane lived on this street at #24 (since demolished). Another strange coincidence here, like the Dr Davies of Davis Ward who lived on a Castle Street the same as Stephenson, is the fact that the only pub on Pratt Street is called the St Martins Tavern.

[Mike Covell]

MMM, I see it's for sale too!! One wonders how much a public house in this vicinity goes for??

[Stephen Thomas]

Hi Mike

Within a year it will probably be 'St Martins Apartments' containing loads of pokey flats selling for £500,000 each. I kid you not.