Stephenson Related Pictures

[Mike Covell]

Both Robert D'Onston Stephenson and his Brother Richard Stephenson Junior had been residing in Islington for many years prior to the Whitechapel murders.
RDS lived in Islington from 1870's whilst Richard moved there a little later after being involved in numerous scandals in Hull (typical councillor!)
It is possible they knew of the area but the two were quite far away!

[David Knott]

Dr Morgan Davies, from a cartoon set in Goring Street...

[Rob Clack]

Hi David,

Thanks for the information. I was using the 1882 and 1895 directories and Stephenson's statement. The 1888 Bacon map of London has 'Castle Street' but that atlas is notoriously unreliable.

Rob

[Howard Brown]

Just a quick in and out to thank Dave Knott,Clacky, and Mr. Thomas for all these additions to the Stephensonian section. Its really a nice gesture.

Thank you

[Septic Blue]

Hi Stephen,

29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields was indeed a common lodging house. But, I’m afraid it is long gone.

Judging from the portion of the 1914 OS, posted by Rob, it would appear that it had made way for a larger structure prior to the completion of that particular survey.


1891 Census of England & Wales
Registration District: The Strand
Civil Parish: St. Martin in the Fields
Registration Sub-District: St. Martin in the Fields
Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Martin in the Fields
Enumeration District: 3
Page: 19
RG12_212_215-0439

The numbering scheme for Castle Street was as follows:

North Side
Castle Street, St. Giles in the Fields
East-to-West
#’s 2-68

South Side
Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields
East-to-West
#’s 1-33

There were fewer numbered buildings on the south side of the thoroughfare, due to the inclusion of a school, coach manufactory and brewery.

The 1891 Census lists a total of 61 residents, in a dwelling that was perhaps no larger than 29 Hanbury Street. Those folks in the West End had it so easy !!!


1871 Large Scale OS
Red: 29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields

***The 300k limit on jpeg images has got to be increased, spryder !!! It used to be in the neighbourhood of 700k !!! The above image looks like sh*t !!!***


2006 Aerial
1871 Large Scale OS Overlay
Red: 29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields


2006 Aerial
Red w/ Gold Outline: 29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields


Colin


P.S. Are you off to Wembley tomorrow, to cheer on the Mariners ???

[Rob Clack]

***The 300k limit on jpeg images has got to be increased, spryder !!! It used to be in the neighbourhood of 700k !!! The above image looks like sh*t !!!***[/I][/FONT]

Mine come out alright

Rob

[Septic Blue]

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1871 Large Scale OS
Red: 29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields

***The 300k limit on jpeg images has got to be increased, spryder !!! It used to be in the neighbourhood of 700k !!! The above image looks like sh*t !!!***

Mine come out alright

That's because you never post anything larger than a thumbnail !!!

This is how it should look !!! But, covering a larger area, of course !!!


1871 Large Scale OS
Red: 29 Castle Street, St. Martin in the Fields


Colin

[Suzi]

Just sticking my head over the parapet....What's 'Pantomime Buggery'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......just curious..........

Resisting the 'He's Behind You' line!!!! heeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry! Where were we........

[Suzi]

Ive decided that the only way to say THAT word is to post a picture of a map!!!!

Rob- what's the bit after the 'er male chicken??

Good to see there's a lavvy top right though!

The **** and what??? Pye/Pie?

[Mike Covell]

The public house in question looks like either,

The Co.ck and Pig

Or

The Co.ck and Pyre

either way, right up Stephenson's Street!!

[Suzi]

He he Mike- put a STOP in and all's well 'eh!

Hmmmmmmmmm Yep it looked like that to me too !

I suppose in a Terry Pratchett way it could be a PYE aaaaaagh! All hail AM!

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

'By **** and pie (pye)' is an adjuration akin to 'by God and the service book'.

Shakespearian.

Regards,

Simon

[Suzi]

REALLY?????? Simon........Thats brilliant if it is........

[Septic Blue]

From:"Seven Dials Monument Charity"

http://www.sevendials.com

"Neale's development at Seven Dials arose from his connections at Court and his services to the Crown. In return for raising large sums of money through the Venetian Lottery, William III granted Neale freehold of the land known as "Marshland" or "C@ck and Pye Fields" (named after a public house on the site) in 1690."


Colin

[m_w_r]

From Quaint Signs of Olde Inns, by G.J. Monson-Fitzjohn (1926):

C@ck and Pye - Drury Lane, W.C., E.C. - This name comes from an old Tudor oath "By C@ck and Pye," an extremely blasphemous one to our modern ears, as it refers to the Cross and Pyx. "Now by C@ck and Pye, you never spoke a truer word in your life" (Soliman and Perseda) and "By C@ck, they are to blame" (Hamlet). It has nothing to do with either c@ck-fighting or game pies - unfortunately.

Mark