Maybrick--a Problem in Logic

[Iconoclast]

It’s all about dismissing something for the right logical and common sense reason, if you’re going to dismiss something. If logic says Maybrick couldn’t know that much about anatomy, then it had to be even more logical to say Barrett couldn’t fake the science to make the document give ion readings that indicate age to the writing.

Just so we're clear, Trappy, if Barrett wasn't capable of the ion two-step, we should not assume that there must be someone out there (so far undiscovered) who could dance it a little better. Maybe it's a dance too far.

And that's before we ask how on earth you embed aged particles into scratches in a watch, whether you are Bongo Barrett or Brian Cox. That's definitely a dance too far.

Ike

[Trapperologist]

Neverthless, Ikey, isn't it better to go with Mr. X who somehow, at least theoretically, had this Factor X that he got from the forgery equivalent of Grey's Anatomy than to go with Michael Barrett?

It's the same with Old Hoax Theory. They're going with a Mr. X with a Factor X that gives him inside information related to JTR. You're left to fight the wind instead of windmills!

Sancho Trappy

[JeffHamm]

Why does the diary mention a murder in Manchester, but the Watch only contain the initials of the London murders?
- Jeff

[StevenOwl]

Why does the diary mention a murder in Manchester, but the Watch only contain the initials of the London murders?
- Jeff

I believe the watch contains 2 other sets of initials besides the C5.

[erobitha]

I believe the watch contains 2 other sets of initials besides the C5.

The general consensus of pro diarists (of which I am one) that the professionally engraved JO stands for John Over - but I have a theory that isn’t the case. The first Manchester murder I believe took place not that far from the Lancaster shop of Verity and I believe the initials JO are of his first victim - who might have had a mis-diagnosed death. I have a couple of candidates that died in Jan / Feb 1888 with matching initials aged between 30-45 - but until I know the cause of death I am reluctant to name names.

[erobitha]

Why does the diary mention a murder in Manchester, but the Watch only contain the initials of the London murders?
- Jeff

Does it? We have not qualified who J.O is profesionally engraved yet. Could unearth something rather intriguing....

[JeffHamm]

I believe the watch contains 2 other sets of initials besides the C5.

Thanks. That's news to me. I always understood there were only the C5 on the watch.

- Jeff

[Sam Flynn]

I believe the watch contains 2 other sets of initials besides the C5.

"JL" and "PM" for John Lennon and Paul McCartney

[Graham]

"JL" and "PM" for John Lennon and Paul McCartney

Well, I'm glad I wore my corsets today, because my sides have just split....

Graham

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

Well, I'm glad I wore my corsets today, because my sides have just split....

Graham

And you've just confessed to regularly wearing a corset.

[Iconoclast]

Well, I'm glad I wore my corsets today, because my sides have just split....

Graham

A bit like Newcastle's defence last night, Graham ...

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

A bit like Newcastle's defence last night, Graham ...

Up the Villa!

[Graham]

You need to wear your corset most of the time when on these boards, chaps, given some of the 'funny' stuff one finds here....

Ar, well, yes - first win in 4 games, Ike. I haven't read a report yet, but believe there were yawns and nods around the lower reaches of the Holte End. But a grand return for Steve Bruce, eh? 'Up The Villa' indeed....

Graham

[Iconoclast]

You need to wear your corset most of the time when on these boards, chaps, given some of the 'funny' stuff one finds here....

Ar, well, yes - first win in 4 games, Ike. I haven't read a report yet, but believe there were yawns and nods around the lower reaches of the Holte End. But a grand return for Steve Bruce, eh? 'Up The Villa' indeed....

Graham

On the contrary, Graham, old short-socks Grealish was in imperial form commanding his small Brummy empire and he well deserved his MotM award. Two goals from set-pieces is never satisfactory for a team (Newcastle) whose ambition this season is 38 0-0 draws and therefore survival.

Ike

[Trapperologist]

The general consensus of pro diarists (of which I am one) that the professionally engraved JO stands for John Over - but I have a theory that isn’t the case. The first Manchester murder I believe took place not that far from the Lancaster shop of Verity and I believe the initials JO are of his first victim - who might have had a mis-diagnosed death. I have a couple of candidates that died in Jan / Feb 1888 with matching initials aged between 30-45 - but until I know the cause of death I am reluctant to name names.

A January murder won’t work because it had to have happened after they moved into Battlecrease. The date of the lease was Feb 1st which I think means that’s when they move in as opposed to what I said on the Manchester Murders thread.