Is Kosminski still the best suspect we have?

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Simon,

you know as I know that Swanson is not a liar, thats why you tend to disaprove that he wrote those marginals.The Baron

Everything about and connected to the marginalia is also flawed.

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[The Baron]

Hi Simon,

you know as I know that Swanson is not a liar, thats why you tend to disaprove that he wrote those marginals.

I on the other hand fully accept them.


Hi Fishy,

well I can tell if it is a woman only by looking at her hands and fingers, besides, MJK was positively ifentified by her friend.



The Baron

[Trevor Marriott]

Hi Simon,

He was identified by a fellow jew witness who is unknown to us, there is a good case for Schwarz being the witness.

I have a great respect for chief inspector Donald Swanson, when he says Kosminski was the suspect, then Kosminski was the suspect.

I understand your take on Anderson, but that is not enough to rule out this identification,



The Baron

The whole ID procedure as described which you seem to want to accept is totally flawed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is the guidelines for ID parades in Victorian Times


Identification of Prisoners.-1. It is of the utmost importance that the identification of a person who may be charged with a criminal offence should be conducted in the fairest possible manner.

2. With this end in view the following procedure should be observed :

(a)	The officer in charge of the case against the prisoner, although present, should take no part in the particular proceedings connected with the identification, which should be carried out by the officer on duty in charge of the station or court.
(b)	The witnesses should not be allowed to see the accused before he is placed with others for the purpose of identification, nor should they be shown photographs of him or verbal or written descriptions.
(c)	The accused should be placed among a number of persons (not police)—eight or more, of similar age, height, general appearance, and class of life. He should be invited to stand where he pleases among them, and to change his position after each witness has been called in. He should be asked if he has any objection to any of the persons present, or the arrangements made, and, if he wishes, his solicitor or a friend actually in attendance may be allowed to be present.
(d)	The witnesses should be brought in one by one, and be directed to touch the person they identify. On leaving they should not be allowed to communicate with any other witness in waiting.
(e)	Every circumstance attending the identification should be carefully noted by the officer carrying it out, and whether the accused be identified or not, care being taken that when a witness fails to identify the fact should be as carefully recorded with name and address as in the contrary case—the object being that no subsequent allegation of unfairness can lie.
(f)	Any statement made by the person suspected must be recorded at once and read over to the officer in charge of the case in the presence of the prisoner, who should be invited to sign it.

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[FISHY1118]

Hi Fishy,

You can blame that idea on A System of Legal Medicine, Allan McLane Hamilton, M.D., F.R.S.E., 2nd Edition, New York 1900.

Regards,

Simon

[Simon Wood]

Hi Fishy,

You can blame that idea on A System of Legal Medicine, Allan McLane Hamilton, M.D., F.R.S.E., 2nd Edition, New York 1900.

Regards,

Simon

[FISHY1118]

So if I told someone there is a poster on casebook who thinks this identification is bogus, but I didn't say his name is Simon Wood, that means I am fabricating this ?!



The Baron

Dont worry Baron, Simon recently put forward the suggestion that the mutilated corpse of Mary Jane Kelly could possibly have been a ''male'' due to her injuries that prevented a positive i.d !!!! . Hows that for not making sense.

[Simon Wood]

Sorry, Baron, that makes no sense at all.

[The Baron]

So if I told someone there is a poster on casebook who thinks this identification is bogus, but I didn't say his name is Simon Wood, that means I am fabricating this ?!



The Baron

[Simon Wood]

Hi Baron,

"Positively identified," and "there is a good case for Schwartz being the witness" do not jive. It smacks more of wishful thinking.

Simon

[The Baron]

Hi Simon,

He was identified by a fellow jew witness who is unknown to us, there is a good case for Schwarz being the witness.

I have a great respect for chief inspector Donald Swanson, when he says Kosminski was the suspect, then Kosminski was the suspect.

I understand your take on Anderson, but that is not enough to rule out this identification,



The Baron

[Simon Wood]

Hi Baron,

Positively identified by whom?

Regards,

Simon

[The Baron]

I can think of a nasty, wee, broad shouldered blotchy guy who might beg to differ.

Then you must have some secret information that Kosminski was not that nasty wee broad shouldered blotchy guy you are rooting for.



The Baron

[barnflatwyngarde]

Agree, no one is even close.

He was positively identified, and, if the shawl and DNA saga is in any way true, then it is a case closed.



The Baron

I can think of a nasty, wee, broad shouldered blotchy guy who might beg to differ.

[The Baron]

Yes by far he is the best suspect

Agree, no one is even close.

He was positively identified, and, if the shawl and DNA saga is in any way true, then it is a case closed.



The Baron

[Tonylondon]

Yes by far he is the best suspect